Comments on: Pro-Hindu group tackles random crime http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/19/prohindu_group/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Prem http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/19/prohindu_group/comment-page-1/#comment-285389 Prem Thu, 07 Jul 2011 18:07:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5527#comment-285389 <p>It is awfully naive to state Hindus are not targets abroad when Sikhs themselves are targets for no apparent reason other than the fact they were turbans. I have never seen an Arab or a Muslim to wear turbans yet Sikhs are classified as such.</p> <p>In Australia, there have been hundreds of hate crimes against Indians, for no other reason but that they are different and from India, nothing more.</p> <p>In the Natalie Holloway case by the way, it was proven the two Indian boys had nothing to do whatsoever with her murder.</p> <p>I agree though US would have issued travel advisory if this many whites were killed in a short time in India. Or French, or German, whichever, in their country it would have front page news everywhere.</p> <p>I am really proud to be Hindu that some of us still care for those and their plights abroad, whatever racism or bigotry or crimes they face.</p> <p>I myself being an Indian have seen many acts of racism in the US, whether black on Indian, white on Indian, white on Chinese, etc. Even the media here writes in newspapers that "Indians in India perform the low level IT jobs in India." I know this is not true, and so do the rest of you. Racism is a part of life....a Professor told a whole class, that "Indians are typing for the Americans" meaning India did not have its own ingenuity or inventiveness! We just follow the commands and genius of Americans. This would explain I guess why Pentium was created in India, Java, why the mentor for Google was Indian Rajeev Motwani, why even the ease of file sharing for Youtube was the brainchild of an Indian, and why India exports software to 90 countries and the world requires our ingenuity in a variety of software management programs.</p> <p>Indians abroad: look up crime statistics before arriving, and take extra cautions whenever you can.</p> It is awfully naive to state Hindus are not targets abroad when Sikhs themselves are targets for no apparent reason other than the fact they were turbans. I have never seen an Arab or a Muslim to wear turbans yet Sikhs are classified as such.

In Australia, there have been hundreds of hate crimes against Indians, for no other reason but that they are different and from India, nothing more.

In the Natalie Holloway case by the way, it was proven the two Indian boys had nothing to do whatsoever with her murder.

I agree though US would have issued travel advisory if this many whites were killed in a short time in India. Or French, or German, whichever, in their country it would have front page news everywhere.

I am really proud to be Hindu that some of us still care for those and their plights abroad, whatever racism or bigotry or crimes they face.

I myself being an Indian have seen many acts of racism in the US, whether black on Indian, white on Indian, white on Chinese, etc. Even the media here writes in newspapers that “Indians in India perform the low level IT jobs in India.” I know this is not true, and so do the rest of you. Racism is a part of life….a Professor told a whole class, that “Indians are typing for the Americans” meaning India did not have its own ingenuity or inventiveness! We just follow the commands and genius of Americans. This would explain I guess why Pentium was created in India, Java, why the mentor for Google was Indian Rajeev Motwani, why even the ease of file sharing for Youtube was the brainchild of an Indian, and why India exports software to 90 countries and the world requires our ingenuity in a variety of software management programs.

Indians abroad: look up crime statistics before arriving, and take extra cautions whenever you can.

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By: Vikas http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/19/prohindu_group/comment-page-1/#comment-223768 Vikas Sun, 07 Dec 2008 04:02:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5527#comment-223768 <p>This is probably the most vacuous post on this blog. This post is like some of the "news" that are there in our newspapers just to fill a particular number of pages. I am from seattle and I remember the case of the murder of Aparna Jinaga. Police did nothing to find the murderers. If only she were white blond it would have made a big splash across all the news channels. You have to see that police does not investigate deep enough for the cases like Aparna's or other Indian students. It has nothing to do with Indian or Hindu. A pakistani muslim student or a russian orthodox murder would have suffered the same fate. This fact probably makes indian students(abundance in number in most of the US universities) a very easy target. They wont fight back and police wont look hard enough for the murderer. Talking about religion, if a muslim immigrant gets murdered you have to see how muslim organizations will try to link it to hate crime so that police will atleast look into such cases further. If a Hindu organization is trying to apply some pressure to get these cases investigated, I dont see whats the big deal? They are not claiming that those people were killed because they were hindus. Why do psuedo seculars get all worked up when hindu organizations try to deal with issues faced by Indians? Its a worthy cause and even if Black panther, KKK or MSA were pushing for such efforts, I would have supported the cause.</p> This is probably the most vacuous post on this blog. This post is like some of the “news” that are there in our newspapers just to fill a particular number of pages. I am from seattle and I remember the case of the murder of Aparna Jinaga. Police did nothing to find the murderers. If only she were white blond it would have made a big splash across all the news channels. You have to see that police does not investigate deep enough for the cases like Aparna’s or other Indian students. It has nothing to do with Indian or Hindu. A pakistani muslim student or a russian orthodox murder would have suffered the same fate. This fact probably makes indian students(abundance in number in most of the US universities) a very easy target. They wont fight back and police wont look hard enough for the murderer. Talking about religion, if a muslim immigrant gets murdered you have to see how muslim organizations will try to link it to hate crime so that police will atleast look into such cases further. If a Hindu organization is trying to apply some pressure to get these cases investigated, I dont see whats the big deal? They are not claiming that those people were killed because they were hindus. Why do psuedo seculars get all worked up when hindu organizations try to deal with issues faced by Indians? Its a worthy cause and even if Black panther, KKK or MSA were pushing for such efforts, I would have supported the cause.

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By: SomeNdianGuy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/19/prohindu_group/comment-page-1/#comment-222295 SomeNdianGuy Wed, 26 Nov 2008 19:35:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5527#comment-222295 <p><i>18 · <b><a href="mailto:dr.anonymous@passtheroti.com" rel="nofollow">Dr Amonymous</a></b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005527.html#comment221786">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>This brings up: Why are Hindus and "one billion Indians" being equated? Indians and Hindus are not the same thing.</blockquote> <p>Right here in the US, when "Indians" or locally born desis talk among each other, the word "American" typically means a "white, christian" person. Other Americans of races like African/Mexican/Middle Eastern/Asian (Japanese, Chinese, Korean) or Indians are <em>not</em> what comes to the mind of most Indian people. In a similar manner, to most ordinary Americans (and this includes all races except Indian Americans) "Indian" typically means "Hindu" if they know something about Indian or it means "middle eastern turban head" if they know nothing about India. You might find 4000 people out of 300 million who know that many religions exist in India, but that's pretty much it</p> 18 · Dr Amonymous said

This brings up: Why are Hindus and “one billion Indians” being equated? Indians and Hindus are not the same thing.

Right here in the US, when “Indians” or locally born desis talk among each other, the word “American” typically means a “white, christian” person. Other Americans of races like African/Mexican/Middle Eastern/Asian (Japanese, Chinese, Korean) or Indians are not what comes to the mind of most Indian people. In a similar manner, to most ordinary Americans (and this includes all races except Indian Americans) “Indian” typically means “Hindu” if they know something about Indian or it means “middle eastern turban head” if they know nothing about India. You might find 4000 people out of 300 million who know that many religions exist in India, but that’s pretty much it

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By: Magi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/19/prohindu_group/comment-page-1/#comment-221910 Magi Sun, 23 Nov 2008 06:50:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5527#comment-221910 <p>It is a waste of time responding to name calling. It is in the best interests of Indian Americans not to be pawns of other groups. SPLC is conspicuously silent on the subject of attacks by blacks on white americans and asian americans.</p> It is a waste of time responding to name calling. It is in the best interests of Indian Americans not to be pawns of other groups. SPLC is conspicuously silent on the subject of attacks by blacks on white americans and asian americans.

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By: Dr Amonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/19/prohindu_group/comment-page-1/#comment-221906 Dr Amonymous Sat, 22 Nov 2008 23:57:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5527#comment-221906 <p><i>35 · <b>Magi</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005527.html#comment221828">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>The Southern Poverty law Center is of no use to Indians concerned about safety. The southern poverty law center gets its money from jewish americans and is preoccupied with white nationalist groups who are not the biggest threat to Indians studying in the US. </blockquote> <p>Just so this crap doesn't go unresponded to:</p> <blockquote><a href="http://www.splcenter.org/news/item.jsp?aid=302">March 10, 2008</a> – Hundreds of guestworkers from India, lured by false promises of permanent U.S. residency, paid tens of thousands of dollars each to obtain temporary jobs at Gulf Coast shipyards only to find themselves forced into involuntary servitude and living in overcrowded, guarded labor camps, according to a class action lawsuit filed by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The lawsuit charges that Signal International LLC and a network of recruiters and labor brokers engineered a scheme to defraud the workers and force them to work against their will in Signal facilities in Pascagoula, Miss., and Orange, Texas. </blockquote> <p>Try to leave the anit-semitism at the door ;)</p> 35 · Magi said

The Southern Poverty law Center is of no use to Indians concerned about safety. The southern poverty law center gets its money from jewish americans and is preoccupied with white nationalist groups who are not the biggest threat to Indians studying in the US.

Just so this crap doesn’t go unresponded to:

March 10, 2008 – Hundreds of guestworkers from India, lured by false promises of permanent U.S. residency, paid tens of thousands of dollars each to obtain temporary jobs at Gulf Coast shipyards only to find themselves forced into involuntary servitude and living in overcrowded, guarded labor camps, according to a class action lawsuit filed by the Southern Poverty Law Center. The lawsuit charges that Signal International LLC and a network of recruiters and labor brokers engineered a scheme to defraud the workers and force them to work against their will in Signal facilities in Pascagoula, Miss., and Orange, Texas.

Try to leave the anit-semitism at the door ;)

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By: theorizer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/19/prohindu_group/comment-page-1/#comment-221856 theorizer Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:29:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5527#comment-221856 <p>Here's an interesting theory - Know all the inter-racial(?) violence that happens in Andhra Pradesh? As in Kamma vs Kapu, Reddy vs Naidu and whatnots in the Rayalseema areas? These things are khandaani feuds extending over generations. One wonders if the some of the murdered were offspring of such khandaans. "We'll find you even if you travel to the ends of the earth - and hunt you down" - That sort of thing.</p> Here’s an interesting theory – Know all the inter-racial(?) violence that happens in Andhra Pradesh? As in Kamma vs Kapu, Reddy vs Naidu and whatnots in the Rayalseema areas? These things are khandaani feuds extending over generations. One wonders if the some of the murdered were offspring of such khandaans. “We’ll find you even if you travel to the ends of the earth – and hunt you down” – That sort of thing.

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By: jiwan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/19/prohindu_group/comment-page-1/#comment-221853 jiwan Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:09:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5527#comment-221853 <p>I don't see anything wrong with what this 'Pro-Hindu' group is doing. I wouldn't be a part of it but wouldn't condemn it either. There are more 'Pro- Christian' and 'Pro- Muslim' groups that do things that rank much higher on the silly scale. I don't see the reason why this particular group's sillyness warranties criticism. There are more Muslims 'donating' money to Mosques that have their mullahs blatantly spewing hatred against non-Muslims.</p> I don’t see anything wrong with what this ‘Pro-Hindu’ group is doing. I wouldn’t be a part of it but wouldn’t condemn it either. There are more ‘Pro- Christian’ and ‘Pro- Muslim’ groups that do things that rank much higher on the silly scale. I don’t see the reason why this particular group’s sillyness warranties criticism. There are more Muslims ‘donating’ money to Mosques that have their mullahs blatantly spewing hatred against non-Muslims.

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By: Janeofalltrades http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/19/prohindu_group/comment-page-1/#comment-221836 Janeofalltrades Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:52:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5527#comment-221836 <blockquote>Students who come to the US should research the local crime statistics online and perhaps this Hindu group would do more good by helping students do that, and guiding them on where to live near campus and how to deal with campus crime.</blockquote> <p>I think MD sums up my sentiment. While it might be a bit alarmist and even slightly trite for the group to write this letter, if they get the attention for it I hope that they find a way to help educate Indian students in their new environment. You hear of American college students falling victims to crime all the time. There are so many factors here, being out of the home for the first time, lack of real life experience that contribute to them being victims. Indian students I would think are even more susceptible to such crimes.</p> Students who come to the US should research the local crime statistics online and perhaps this Hindu group would do more good by helping students do that, and guiding them on where to live near campus and how to deal with campus crime.

I think MD sums up my sentiment. While it might be a bit alarmist and even slightly trite for the group to write this letter, if they get the attention for it I hope that they find a way to help educate Indian students in their new environment. You hear of American college students falling victims to crime all the time. There are so many factors here, being out of the home for the first time, lack of real life experience that contribute to them being victims. Indian students I would think are even more susceptible to such crimes.

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By: Magi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/19/prohindu_group/comment-page-1/#comment-221828 Magi Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:00:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5527#comment-221828 <p>The Southern Poverty law Center is of no use to Indians concerned about safety. The southern poverty law center gets its money from jewish americans and is preoccupied with white nationalist groups who are not the biggest threat to Indians studying in the US.</p> The Southern Poverty law Center is of no use to Indians concerned about safety. The southern poverty law center gets its money from jewish americans and is preoccupied with white nationalist groups who are not the biggest threat to Indians studying in the US.

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By: sebs http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/19/prohindu_group/comment-page-1/#comment-221820 sebs Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:06:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5527#comment-221820 <p>Tonight in Dallas, at a reception for Vayalar Ravi, Minister of Parliamentary Affairs & Overseas Indian Affairs, a group made it a point to present Ravi with a packet containing their wishes for the Embassy and Indian Government to conduct and organize research on this issue, even so far as to involve CBI. Ravi agreed to present some of the ideas, like informing those studying in the States about safety precautions, but he shot down the global FBI involvement. Which, honestly, makes sense as it's an impossibility.</p> Tonight in Dallas, at a reception for Vayalar Ravi, Minister of Parliamentary Affairs & Overseas Indian Affairs, a group made it a point to present Ravi with a packet containing their wishes for the Embassy and Indian Government to conduct and organize research on this issue, even so far as to involve CBI. Ravi agreed to present some of the ideas, like informing those studying in the States about safety precautions, but he shot down the global FBI involvement. Which, honestly, makes sense as it’s an impossibility.

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