Comments on: Great Expectations for Slumdog Millionaire http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/13/great_expectati/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: slumdog fan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/13/great_expectati/comment-page-3/#comment-230193 slumdog fan Mon, 09 Feb 2009 21:35:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5520#comment-230193 <p>I hope the movie can win the best movie of the year. <b>Dev Patel made a great job ;)</b></p> <p>you guys need to check this video, It's soooooooo funnyyy</p> <p>http://www.mtviggy.com/video/quicky-dev-patel-vs-mtv-iggy</p> <p>Copy and paste the link in your browser ;)</p> <p>Enjoy</p> I hope the movie can win the best movie of the year. Dev Patel made a great job ;)

you guys need to check this video, It’s soooooooo funnyyy

http://www.mtviggy.com/video/quicky-dev-patel-vs-mtv-iggy

Copy and paste the link in your browser ;)

Enjoy

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/13/great_expectati/comment-page-3/#comment-229391 Sameer Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:25:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5520#comment-229391 <p>This is a story from England. Apparently, the child actors were not paid fairly - very sad:</p> <p>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/4347472/Poor-parents-of-Slumdog-millionaire-stars-say-children-were-exploited.html</p> <p>"Poor parents of 'Slumdog millionaire' stars say children were exploited The parents of two child stars of Slumdog Millionaire, British director Danny Boyle's hit film story of love, violent crime and extreme poverty in India, have accused the producers of exploiting and underpaying their children.</p> <p>The film has already won four Golden Globes, and is set to sweep next month's Oscars on its way to ringing up hundreds of millions of pounds in box office receipts, but eight-year-old Rubina Ali and Azhauddin Ismail, who played Latika and Salim in the opening and early scenes of the film, were paid less than many Indian domestic servants for their work on the blockbuster.</p> <p>Rubina was paid just £500 for a year's work while Azharuddin received £1700. And while they both receive £20 per month for books and food, they continue to live in grinding poverty in one of the city's most squalid slums.</p> <p>Both were found places in a free English-medium government school – usually attended by relatively poor children – and both families have been told there is a trust fund for their children's future. But they have no details of it and remain sceptical.</p> <p>Last night their parents told The Daily Telegraph they had hoped the film would be their ticket out of the slums into new homes, and that the extraordinary success of the film had made them realise how little their children had been paid.</p> <p>Their payments are considerably worse than those received by the poor Afghan child stars of The Kite Runner, who embarrassed their Hollywood producers when they revealed they had been paid just £9,000.</p> <p>Rubina and Azharuddin live a few hundreds yards from each other in a tangle of makeshift shacks alongside Mumbai's railway tracks at Bandra. Azharuddin is in fact worse off than during the filming – his family's illegal hut was demolished by the local authorities and he now sleeps under a sheet of plastic tarpaulin with his father who suffers from chronic tuberculosis.</p> <p>"There is none of the money left. It was all spent on medicines to help me fight TB," Azharuddin's father, Mohammed Ismail, said between fits of rattling coughing.</p> <p>"Two months ago our shack was demolished by the municipality and now we have nowhere to live.</p> <p>"We feel that the kids have been left behind by the film. He should have been taken care of. We should have been taken care of. He is a hero of the film. He should have been taken to London. They have told us there is a trust fund but we know nothing about it and have no guarantees. At the moment, he has nowhere proper to live," he said. "</p> This is a story from England. Apparently, the child actors were not paid fairly – very sad:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/4347472/Poor-parents-of-Slumdog-millionaire-stars-say-children-were-exploited.html

“Poor parents of ‘Slumdog millionaire’ stars say children were exploited The parents of two child stars of Slumdog Millionaire, British director Danny Boyle’s hit film story of love, violent crime and extreme poverty in India, have accused the producers of exploiting and underpaying their children.

The film has already won four Golden Globes, and is set to sweep next month’s Oscars on its way to ringing up hundreds of millions of pounds in box office receipts, but eight-year-old Rubina Ali and Azhauddin Ismail, who played Latika and Salim in the opening and early scenes of the film, were paid less than many Indian domestic servants for their work on the blockbuster.

Rubina was paid just £500 for a year’s work while Azharuddin received £1700. And while they both receive £20 per month for books and food, they continue to live in grinding poverty in one of the city’s most squalid slums.

Both were found places in a free English-medium government school – usually attended by relatively poor children – and both families have been told there is a trust fund for their children’s future. But they have no details of it and remain sceptical.

Last night their parents told The Daily Telegraph they had hoped the film would be their ticket out of the slums into new homes, and that the extraordinary success of the film had made them realise how little their children had been paid.

Their payments are considerably worse than those received by the poor Afghan child stars of The Kite Runner, who embarrassed their Hollywood producers when they revealed they had been paid just £9,000.

Rubina and Azharuddin live a few hundreds yards from each other in a tangle of makeshift shacks alongside Mumbai’s railway tracks at Bandra. Azharuddin is in fact worse off than during the filming – his family’s illegal hut was demolished by the local authorities and he now sleeps under a sheet of plastic tarpaulin with his father who suffers from chronic tuberculosis.

“There is none of the money left. It was all spent on medicines to help me fight TB,” Azharuddin’s father, Mohammed Ismail, said between fits of rattling coughing.

“Two months ago our shack was demolished by the municipality and now we have nowhere to live.

“We feel that the kids have been left behind by the film. He should have been taken care of. We should have been taken care of. He is a hero of the film. He should have been taken to London. They have told us there is a trust fund but we know nothing about it and have no guarantees. At the moment, he has nowhere proper to live,” he said. “

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By: sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/13/great_expectati/comment-page-3/#comment-229387 sameer Mon, 26 Jan 2009 23:20:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5520#comment-229387 <p>"114 · achoot on January 25, 2009 12:24 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)</p> <p>113 · Sameer said</p> <pre><code>as if calling the poor, slumdogs, is okay even when talking about actual residents of slums. </code></pre> <p>So, what do you think about the ancient indian practice of calling 15% of the indian population "untouchables"?"</p> <p>I think we should be respectful to all people and be considerate of the names we give them, especially by writers and directors creating movies that are supposedly the voice of the poor and especially journalists who should know better than to refer to people who live in the slums as "real live slumdog." They are not "real live slumdogs" they are real live people.</p> “114 · achoot on January 25, 2009 12:24 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

113 · Sameer said

as if calling the poor, slumdogs, is okay even when talking about actual residents of slums. 

So, what do you think about the ancient indian practice of calling 15% of the indian population “untouchables”?”

I think we should be respectful to all people and be considerate of the names we give them, especially by writers and directors creating movies that are supposedly the voice of the poor and especially journalists who should know better than to refer to people who live in the slums as “real live slumdog.” They are not “real live slumdogs” they are real live people.

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/13/great_expectati/comment-page-3/#comment-229006 Kush Tandon Sun, 25 Jan 2009 07:30:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5520#comment-229006 <p><i>Beaufoy's made up name, slumdog, is how even CNN is now referring to the Mumbai slum dwellers, even in their own otherwise inspiring news segment. Real nice job, Beaufoy.</i></p> <p>Not really.</p> <p>It is an English translation of a very old Hindi term "gali ka kutta" (the dog of narrow lanes).</p> <p>In the movie, it is used by the inspector for the first time.</p> <p>You hear Indians using it all the time for poor and disenfranchised.</p> Beaufoy’s made up name, slumdog, is how even CNN is now referring to the Mumbai slum dwellers, even in their own otherwise inspiring news segment. Real nice job, Beaufoy.

Not really.

It is an English translation of a very old Hindi term “gali ka kutta” (the dog of narrow lanes).

In the movie, it is used by the inspector for the first time.

You hear Indians using it all the time for poor and disenfranchised.

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By: achoot http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/13/great_expectati/comment-page-3/#comment-228998 achoot Sun, 25 Jan 2009 06:24:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5520#comment-228998 <p><i>113 · <b>Sameer</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005520.html#comment228997">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>as if calling the poor, slumdogs, is okay even when talking about actual residents of slums. </blockquote> <p>So, what do you think about the ancient indian practice of calling 15% of the indian population "untouchables"?</p> 113 · Sameer said

as if calling the poor, slumdogs, is okay even when talking about actual residents of slums.

So, what do you think about the ancient indian practice of calling 15% of the indian population “untouchables”?

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/13/great_expectati/comment-page-3/#comment-228997 Sameer Sun, 25 Jan 2009 05:22:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5520#comment-228997 <p>I did an internet search on the movie, and noticed there are quite a few news articles talking about "real life slumdogs" as if calling the poor, slumdogs, is okay even when talking about actual residents of slums. CNN (http://snackfeed.com/videos/detail/26a8c258-39dd-102c-a525-00304897c9c6/Real-life---slumdog--?_s=s) was not the only one with "real life slumdog" kind of title for stories on non-fiction people. It is one thing for a fictional movie title, but it is quite another to refer to real people as slumdogs by journalists in mainstream news media (print news and cable TV).</p> I did an internet search on the movie, and noticed there are quite a few news articles talking about “real life slumdogs” as if calling the poor, slumdogs, is okay even when talking about actual residents of slums. CNN (http://snackfeed.com/videos/detail/26a8c258-39dd-102c-a525-00304897c9c6/Real-life—slumdog–?_s=s) was not the only one with “real life slumdog” kind of title for stories on non-fiction people. It is one thing for a fictional movie title, but it is quite another to refer to real people as slumdogs by journalists in mainstream news media (print news and cable TV).

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/13/great_expectati/comment-page-3/#comment-228995 Sameer Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:49:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5520#comment-228995 <p>Mumbai Slum residents Protest "Slumdog Millionaire's" name http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/22/mumbai-slum-residents-pro_n_159916.html</p> <p>"The joy wasn't felt by some, however, as about two dozen slum residents protested the film outside Kapoor's Mumbai home saying the title of the movie was an insult.</p> <p>"I am poor, but don't call me slumdog," said Rekha Dhamji, 18. "I don't want to be referred to as a dog."</p> <p>Other protesters held up banners reading "Poverty For Sale" and "I am not a dog."</p> <p>Nicholas Almeida, a social activist who organized the protest, said he planned to file a lawsuit Friday to get the film's name changed.</p> <p>"Slumdog Millionaire" tells the story of Jamal Malik, a poor youth who becomes the champion of India's "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire" television program as he searches for his lost love.</p> <p>On Wednesday the cast and director spoke to the media in New Delhi about the film, and the controversy it has sparked.</p> <p>"The film is going to be a terrific inspiration to kids around India. It's a feel-good film, a film of hope," said Kapoor, who grew up in a Mumbai slum.</p> <p>He dismissed claims that the word "slumdog" was offensive. "Children from the slums are actually called much worse names."</p> <p>Screenwriter Simon Beaufoy said people should not read too much into the word. "I just made up the word. I liked the idea. I didn't mean to offend anyone," he said."</p> <p>It amazes me how Beaufoy didn't realize making up an insulting name, slumdog, for people who are already suffering would not be offensive to them. Today on CNN they did a segment on a Mumbai slum resident who educated himself and is now working in the finance industry in Mumbai, but the title of the CNN news segment on this guy was "Real Life Slumdog." Beaufoy's made up name, slumdog, is how even CNN is now referring to the Mumbai slum dwellers, even in their own otherwise inspiring news segment. Real nice job, Beaufoy.</p> <p>I say kudos to those Mumbai slum residents for standing up for their dignity against a popular movie in the West, and Western and Indian elites. It looks like Beaufoy and Kapoor are quite capable of throwing the poor under the bus when the poor Indians become inconvenient for them in their quest for Oscars for their movie. The book's title "Q and A" shows much more respect to them than the movie title. Shame on Kapoor for making excuses for Beaufoy instead of supporting the Mumbai residents in their protest. So much for caring for the poor and their dignity, let that not get in the way of an Oscar or two.</p> Mumbai Slum residents Protest “Slumdog Millionaire’s” name http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/22/mumbai-slum-residents-pro_n_159916.html

“The joy wasn’t felt by some, however, as about two dozen slum residents protested the film outside Kapoor’s Mumbai home saying the title of the movie was an insult.

“I am poor, but don’t call me slumdog,” said Rekha Dhamji, 18. “I don’t want to be referred to as a dog.”

Other protesters held up banners reading “Poverty For Sale” and “I am not a dog.”

Nicholas Almeida, a social activist who organized the protest, said he planned to file a lawsuit Friday to get the film’s name changed.

“Slumdog Millionaire” tells the story of Jamal Malik, a poor youth who becomes the champion of India’s “Who Wants to Be a Millionaire” television program as he searches for his lost love.

On Wednesday the cast and director spoke to the media in New Delhi about the film, and the controversy it has sparked.

“The film is going to be a terrific inspiration to kids around India. It’s a feel-good film, a film of hope,” said Kapoor, who grew up in a Mumbai slum.

He dismissed claims that the word “slumdog” was offensive. “Children from the slums are actually called much worse names.”

Screenwriter Simon Beaufoy said people should not read too much into the word. “I just made up the word. I liked the idea. I didn’t mean to offend anyone,” he said.”

It amazes me how Beaufoy didn’t realize making up an insulting name, slumdog, for people who are already suffering would not be offensive to them. Today on CNN they did a segment on a Mumbai slum resident who educated himself and is now working in the finance industry in Mumbai, but the title of the CNN news segment on this guy was “Real Life Slumdog.” Beaufoy’s made up name, slumdog, is how even CNN is now referring to the Mumbai slum dwellers, even in their own otherwise inspiring news segment. Real nice job, Beaufoy.

I say kudos to those Mumbai slum residents for standing up for their dignity against a popular movie in the West, and Western and Indian elites. It looks like Beaufoy and Kapoor are quite capable of throwing the poor under the bus when the poor Indians become inconvenient for them in their quest for Oscars for their movie. The book’s title “Q and A” shows much more respect to them than the movie title. Shame on Kapoor for making excuses for Beaufoy instead of supporting the Mumbai residents in their protest. So much for caring for the poor and their dignity, let that not get in the way of an Oscar or two.

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By: comment http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/13/great_expectati/comment-page-3/#comment-227654 comment Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:32:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5520#comment-227654 <p>----MAJOR-SPOILER-ALERT----- It is a rare compliment to have a western film made in India, but a backhanded one when it stoops so low. Frankly, aside from some pretty implausible situations and some english thrown in this film adheres to a mostly Bollywood formula. brothers born in adversity, one becomes evil, one falls in love, evil one gives up life for brother, other one gets the girl and gets rich.</p> <p>This movie is a fake. I have more respect for bollywood movies now since they are honest about their deception.</p> <p>BTW Lovleen Tandon was initially the casting director, but was credited as a co-director for her contributions.</p> —-MAJOR-SPOILER-ALERT—– It is a rare compliment to have a western film made in India, but a backhanded one when it stoops so low. Frankly, aside from some pretty implausible situations and some english thrown in this film adheres to a mostly Bollywood formula. brothers born in adversity, one becomes evil, one falls in love, evil one gives up life for brother, other one gets the girl and gets rich.

This movie is a fake. I have more respect for bollywood movies now since they are honest about their deception.

BTW Lovleen Tandon was initially the casting director, but was credited as a co-director for her contributions.

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By: sandhya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/13/great_expectati/comment-page-3/#comment-227235 sandhya Mon, 12 Jan 2009 05:02:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5520#comment-227235 <p>Yay! Now I can't wait till the Oscars. The film opens in India next week so I can't even imagine what the reception there is going to be like!</p> Yay! Now I can’t wait till the Oscars. The film opens in India next week so I can’t even imagine what the reception there is going to be like!

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By: drunkenmonk http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/13/great_expectati/comment-page-3/#comment-227232 drunkenmonk Mon, 12 Jan 2009 04:53:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5520#comment-227232 <p>Great call Sepia, I can't wait to see this movie again.</p> Great call Sepia, I can’t wait to see this movie again.

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