Comments on: Madia Concedes; Obama Wins http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/05/madia_concedes/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: tripe http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/05/madia_concedes/comment-page-2/#comment-221557 tripe Wed, 19 Nov 2008 05:23:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5505#comment-221557 <p><i>80 · <b>Manju</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005505.html#comment220582">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>you have rumblings here about a fairness doctrine and problematic hate crime bills.</blockquote> <p>from rush limbaugh's mouth to manju's ear.. to sepia's comment box. is there any right wing tripe that is too far fetched for manju to put lipstick on?</p> 80 · Manju said

you have rumblings here about a fairness doctrine and problematic hate crime bills.

from rush limbaugh’s mouth to manju’s ear.. to sepia’s comment box. is there any right wing tripe that is too far fetched for manju to put lipstick on?

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/05/madia_concedes/comment-page-2/#comment-221000 Rahul Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:27:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5505#comment-221000 <p><i>80 · <b>Manju</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005505.html#comment220582">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>this could be interesting since obama's constitutional scholar, and has kept his views close to the vest. students say he often debated from either side of the issue. my hope is that he'll split the difference and surprise people by going beyond the typical lef-right dichotomy, ie appoint someone who'll recognize gay rights but put a halt to leftist restrictions on religion, speech, etc.</blockquote> <p>Yes, to me, one of the best things about an Obama victory is that I hope to be able to sleep calmly for the next 4 (and hopefully 8) years that policy will be driven by the real worries and dangers of what is, not the poisonous manufactured fantasies, fearmongering, paranoia, and dogwhistles of what might be, be they welfare queens in gold plated cadillacs, specters of socialism raised by upping tax cuts on the wealthiest, untrammeled spending on interplanetary defense, ticking timebombs in times square allowing any and all perversions of due process, wars being fought on fall pretexts and lies, and so on and so forth.</p> 80 · Manju said

this could be interesting since obama’s constitutional scholar, and has kept his views close to the vest. students say he often debated from either side of the issue. my hope is that he’ll split the difference and surprise people by going beyond the typical lef-right dichotomy, ie appoint someone who’ll recognize gay rights but put a halt to leftist restrictions on religion, speech, etc.

Yes, to me, one of the best things about an Obama victory is that I hope to be able to sleep calmly for the next 4 (and hopefully 8) years that policy will be driven by the real worries and dangers of what is, not the poisonous manufactured fantasies, fearmongering, paranoia, and dogwhistles of what might be, be they welfare queens in gold plated cadillacs, specters of socialism raised by upping tax cuts on the wealthiest, untrammeled spending on interplanetary defense, ticking timebombs in times square allowing any and all perversions of due process, wars being fought on fall pretexts and lies, and so on and so forth.

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By: boston_mahesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/05/madia_concedes/comment-page-2/#comment-220654 boston_mahesh Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:09:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5505#comment-220654 <p>Also, according to Wikipedia: "Madia was living in the Minnesota's 5th congressional district (Minneapolis, Minnesota), at the time the 3rd Congressional District seat became available. After he announced his run for the 3rd Congressional District seat, he moved back to Plymouth." He totally is not a true Minnesotan at heart or choice. He was born in Boston, MA, afterall, where I'm from.</p> <p>He is the brown Mitt Romney who happens to be left-leaning. Or like the leftist Jindal: Some young, brown guy who changes if it's politically expedient.</p> Also, according to Wikipedia: “Madia was living in the Minnesota’s 5th congressional district (Minneapolis, Minnesota), at the time the 3rd Congressional District seat became available. After he announced his run for the 3rd Congressional District seat, he moved back to Plymouth.” He totally is not a true Minnesotan at heart or choice. He was born in Boston, MA, afterall, where I’m from.

He is the brown Mitt Romney who happens to be left-leaning. Or like the leftist Jindal: Some young, brown guy who changes if it’s politically expedient.

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By: boston_mahesh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/05/madia_concedes/comment-page-2/#comment-220653 boston_mahesh Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:00:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5505#comment-220653 <p>If I were white, I wouldn't want some 30 year old Indian kid elected to Congress of my state. The Indian kid, in the eye of the Whites, is some ambitious, opportunistic <em>INDIAN</em>. He doesn't share the same Nordic background as the locals of Minnesota, unless, of course, his family is Brahmin or North Indian.</p> If I were white, I wouldn’t want some 30 year old Indian kid elected to Congress of my state. The Indian kid, in the eye of the Whites, is some ambitious, opportunistic INDIAN. He doesn’t share the same Nordic background as the locals of Minnesota, unless, of course, his family is Brahmin or North Indian.

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By: sid http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/05/madia_concedes/comment-page-2/#comment-220639 sid Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:52:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5505#comment-220639 <p><i>8 · <b>Brigette Gabriel</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005505.html#comment220362">said</a></i></p> <blockquote><i>6 · <b>hello</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005505.html#comment220359">said</a></i> <blockquote>i'm really really bored about india going on about outsourcing. they can't build their whole future on these call centre type places</blockquote> True. Even though that industry earns India a lot of dollars and forms a sizeable chunk of skilled worker pool that prob. come to US it would be better that India concentrates on other avenues of growth and development equally and the rest of the world also looks at other ( (positive and negative) issues in India. </blockquote> <p>The issue is not whether jobs will go to India or anywhere else.Globalization is a reality and is here to stay.Progressives should rather embrace it.In this day and age when boundaries are being eliminated,no job is a birthright of any one.Jobs like anything else,belongs to peolpe who work hard to earn it.</p> 8 · Brigette Gabriel said

6 · hello said
i’m really really bored about india going on about outsourcing. they can’t build their whole future on these call centre type places
True. Even though that industry earns India a lot of dollars and forms a sizeable chunk of skilled worker pool that prob. come to US it would be better that India concentrates on other avenues of growth and development equally and the rest of the world also looks at other ( (positive and negative) issues in India.

The issue is not whether jobs will go to India or anywhere else.Globalization is a reality and is here to stay.Progressives should rather embrace it.In this day and age when boundaries are being eliminated,no job is a birthright of any one.Jobs like anything else,belongs to peolpe who work hard to earn it.

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By: khoofia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/05/madia_concedes/comment-page-2/#comment-220595 khoofia Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:34:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5505#comment-220595 <p>sorry for the sidetrack.</p> sorry for the sidetrack.

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By: khoofia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/05/madia_concedes/comment-page-2/#comment-220594 khoofia Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:31:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5505#comment-220594 <blockquote>Canada's human rights commissions, to prosecute people for criticizing islam, among other ideologies. see marc stein and ezra levant cases. often the tribunals are secret so it not only violates the principle of free-speech, but also due process. </blockquote> <p>i <a href='http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005035.html#comment194057'>agree with you</a> to some extent. despite my general support for HRC's, the process needs an overhaul badly. currently the bar is too low for what needs to be taken to court. for example, a guy who used to smoke pot (for medical reasons) outside a bar used the HRC to take the barowner to court. the owner had asked him to move away from the entrance because other patrons had complained. the potsmoker lost but he created a huge nuisance for the owner who ended up shellign out 20k of his own money in the defence (whereas the HRC defended the smoker for free). that said - i am willing to pay for a broken system if it helps one guy get a fair hearing, rather than not have a system at all. we are a prodigiously wealthy country despite the popular lament of not having the latest ipod for all.</p> Canada’s human rights commissions, to prosecute people for criticizing islam, among other ideologies. see marc stein and ezra levant cases. often the tribunals are secret so it not only violates the principle of free-speech, but also due process.

i agree with you to some extent. despite my general support for HRC’s, the process needs an overhaul badly. currently the bar is too low for what needs to be taken to court. for example, a guy who used to smoke pot (for medical reasons) outside a bar used the HRC to take the barowner to court. the owner had asked him to move away from the entrance because other patrons had complained. the potsmoker lost but he created a huge nuisance for the owner who ended up shellign out 20k of his own money in the defence (whereas the HRC defended the smoker for free). that said – i am willing to pay for a broken system if it helps one guy get a fair hearing, rather than not have a system at all. we are a prodigiously wealthy country despite the popular lament of not having the latest ipod for all.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/05/madia_concedes/comment-page-2/#comment-220592 Manju Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:21:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5505#comment-220592 <p><i>81 · <B>khoofia</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005505.html#comment220585">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>could you explain the canadian angle?</blockquote> <p>hate crime laws being used by unelected councils, Canada's human rights commissions, to prosecute people for criticizing islam, among other ideologies. see marc stein and ezra levant cases. often the tribunals are secret so it not only violates the principle of free-speech, but also due process.</p> 81 · khoofia said

could you explain the canadian angle?

hate crime laws being used by unelected councils, Canada’s human rights commissions, to prosecute people for criticizing islam, among other ideologies. see marc stein and ezra levant cases. often the tribunals are secret so it not only violates the principle of free-speech, but also due process.

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By: bess http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/05/madia_concedes/comment-page-2/#comment-220591 bess Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:19:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5505#comment-220591 <p>Wha? Canada needs some pro-sex feminists? a castle coalition? I'm confused...</p> Wha? Canada needs some pro-sex feminists? a castle coalition? I’m confused…

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By: khoofia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/11/05/madia_concedes/comment-page-2/#comment-220585 khoofia Fri, 07 Nov 2008 20:10:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5505#comment-220585 <blockquote>look whats happening to free speech in cananda. there are anti-porn feminists with very dangerous notions of free-speech, and it goes beyond porn. many college campus have less protection of radical speech than the public square. you have rumblings here about a fairness doctrine and problematic hate crime bills.</blockquote> <p>could you explain the canadian angle?</p> <p>p.s. today's toronto star has an article by rosie dimanno saying that BO would be a red tory in canada cos we're SO loonie lefti. made me smile. :-)</p> look whats happening to free speech in cananda. there are anti-porn feminists with very dangerous notions of free-speech, and it goes beyond porn. many college campus have less protection of radical speech than the public square. you have rumblings here about a fairness doctrine and problematic hate crime bills.

could you explain the canadian angle?

p.s. today’s toronto star has an article by rosie dimanno saying that BO would be a red tory in canada cos we’re SO loonie lefti. made me smile. :-)

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