Comments on: Bobby Jindal as “Multicultural Prince” for 2012 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/29/bobby_jindal_as/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: C. P. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/29/bobby_jindal_as/comment-page-2/#comment-228476 C. P. Tue, 20 Jan 2009 20:36:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5487#comment-228476 <p>A Jindal run in 2012 could see Palin challenging him, but this could work to Obama's advantage as they would implode the conservative base through which they would split the vote between one another and get a less conservative and more moderate politician like Romney or Huckabee nominated, even though there's nothing wrong with them as individual politicians in their own right. Remember the Sith code when Master Yoda recited it in Star Wars Episode 1: Phantom Menace: "A master and an apprentice: no more, no less."? Well, the GOP needs to follow the Sith manner of things, not that they should ever be called or compared to Sith Lords, and have only one candidate to the very conservative wing and no more than that. This would work best for the GOP in a way like that of Romney conceding like he did before the race ended last year to help McCain win that nomination.</p> A Jindal run in 2012 could see Palin challenging him, but this could work to Obama’s advantage as they would implode the conservative base through which they would split the vote between one another and get a less conservative and more moderate politician like Romney or Huckabee nominated, even though there’s nothing wrong with them as individual politicians in their own right. Remember the Sith code when Master Yoda recited it in Star Wars Episode 1: Phantom Menace: “A master and an apprentice: no more, no less.”? Well, the GOP needs to follow the Sith manner of things, not that they should ever be called or compared to Sith Lords, and have only one candidate to the very conservative wing and no more than that. This would work best for the GOP in a way like that of Romney conceding like he did before the race ended last year to help McCain win that nomination.

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By: whoops! http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/29/bobby_jindal_as/comment-page-2/#comment-225565 whoops! Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:37:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5487#comment-225565 <blockquote>Indeed, much of the current affection for Jindal among movement conservatives - and especially in talk-radio land - can be traced to precisely such a yearning for a conservative Obama: A multicultural prince who channels Ronald Reagan, and whose nomination would at least reduce the taint of racism that clings to the American Right.</blockquote> <p>As this statement makes explicit, meritocracy is often not even an afterthought of the republican party - and actually a fervent anti-meritocracy might be in operation seeing how Bush, Palin et al were welcomed, so maybe Jindal <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/19/us/19louisiana.html?hp">making a royal mess of Louisiana</a> will only strengthen his case for 2012.</p> <blockquote>Severance taxes, mostly from oil and gas, made up just over 8 percent of state tax revenue in 2007, according to Census Bureau data, much less than Alaska’s 64 percent, but higher than Texas’ 6.9 percent. The total take, including royalties and leases from oil, gas and other resources, accounts for just under 17 percent of the Louisiana budget. But while the leading good-government group here, citing that addiction, warned last May against the Legislature’s plan for a $360 million income tax cut, Mr. Jindal called the tax break “terrific news” and happily signed it into law as legislators cheered. Admonitions on fiscal prudence went unheeded, as they have so often here, and the bill is now due. Earlier this year there was an $865 million surplus; now Louisiana has a $341 million shortfall in its current-year budget, and next year the projected deficit is $2 billion. </blockquote> <blockquote>Mr. Jindal entered office this year with the happy duty of spending a $1 billion surplus — and he and the legislators promptly did so, appropriating millions of dollars for highways, ports and a medical research facility, and widely dispensing tax breaks, including one to parents of private school students.</blockquote> <blockquote>Mr. Brandt, of the public affairs council, said cutting education would only increase migration from the state. Louisiana, he said. has “gotten by with these resources others don’t have.” “We’ve not made the decisions we need to,” he said, “to get us out of the high-poverty, low-education cycle.”</blockquote> Indeed, much of the current affection for Jindal among movement conservatives – and especially in talk-radio land – can be traced to precisely such a yearning for a conservative Obama: A multicultural prince who channels Ronald Reagan, and whose nomination would at least reduce the taint of racism that clings to the American Right.

As this statement makes explicit, meritocracy is often not even an afterthought of the republican party – and actually a fervent anti-meritocracy might be in operation seeing how Bush, Palin et al were welcomed, so maybe Jindal making a royal mess of Louisiana will only strengthen his case for 2012.

Severance taxes, mostly from oil and gas, made up just over 8 percent of state tax revenue in 2007, according to Census Bureau data, much less than Alaska’s 64 percent, but higher than Texas’ 6.9 percent. The total take, including royalties and leases from oil, gas and other resources, accounts for just under 17 percent of the Louisiana budget. But while the leading good-government group here, citing that addiction, warned last May against the Legislature’s plan for a $360 million income tax cut, Mr. Jindal called the tax break “terrific news” and happily signed it into law as legislators cheered. Admonitions on fiscal prudence went unheeded, as they have so often here, and the bill is now due. Earlier this year there was an $865 million surplus; now Louisiana has a $341 million shortfall in its current-year budget, and next year the projected deficit is $2 billion.
Mr. Jindal entered office this year with the happy duty of spending a $1 billion surplus — and he and the legislators promptly did so, appropriating millions of dollars for highways, ports and a medical research facility, and widely dispensing tax breaks, including one to parents of private school students.
Mr. Brandt, of the public affairs council, said cutting education would only increase migration from the state. Louisiana, he said. has “gotten by with these resources others don’t have.” “We’ve not made the decisions we need to,” he said, “to get us out of the high-poverty, low-education cycle.”
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By: Manish http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/29/bobby_jindal_as/comment-page-2/#comment-221491 Manish Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:21:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5487#comment-221491 <p>Josef,</p> <p>Well you've got a point. What if he became a Buddhist, followed Kabalah, Rastafarian or Atheist, Agnostic, Muslim, etc. etc. No way would he have achieved the type of success he had without becoming what he is. He is much more cunning than he appears.</p> Josef,

Well you’ve got a point. What if he became a Buddhist, followed Kabalah, Rastafarian or Atheist, Agnostic, Muslim, etc. etc. No way would he have achieved the type of success he had without becoming what he is. He is much more cunning than he appears.

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By: Josef http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/29/bobby_jindal_as/comment-page-2/#comment-221450 Josef Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:25:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5487#comment-221450 <p>Since he was from Punjab, I wonder why he didn't consider the most Egalitarian religion of all: Sikhism.</p> <p>Oh that's right he would have stood out and been different. Probably would have needed a real backbone not like the kind he possess today. Well that's how it is when you want to be rich and famous, just ask Ramesh Ponnuru.</p> Since he was from Punjab, I wonder why he didn’t consider the most Egalitarian religion of all: Sikhism.

Oh that’s right he would have stood out and been different. Probably would have needed a real backbone not like the kind he possess today. Well that’s how it is when you want to be rich and famous, just ask Ramesh Ponnuru.

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By: Manish http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/29/bobby_jindal_as/comment-page-2/#comment-221449 Manish Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:04:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5487#comment-221449 <p><i><u> They always have to Piyush "Bobby" Jindal not a symbol of acceptance of difference in the American political field. He would have been had he, as Hindu Piyush Jindal, gone as far in the Republican party and in Louisiana as Catholic convert Hindu apostate "Bobby" Jindal. </u></i></p> <p>That pretty much sums it up for me. I hope the 3rd and 4th gen. Desis don't become like Piyush. He's no Barack, that's for sure.</p> They always have to Piyush “Bobby” Jindal not a symbol of acceptance of difference in the American political field. He would have been had he, as Hindu Piyush Jindal, gone as far in the Republican party and in Louisiana as Catholic convert Hindu apostate “Bobby” Jindal.

That pretty much sums it up for me. I hope the 3rd and 4th gen. Desis don’t become like Piyush. He’s no Barack, that’s for sure.

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/29/bobby_jindal_as/comment-page-2/#comment-221384 Sameer Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:59:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5487#comment-221384 <p>Another site on issues:</p> <p>http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bobby_Jindal.htm</p> Another site on issues:

http://www.ontheissues.org/House/Bobby_Jindal.htm

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By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/29/bobby_jindal_as/comment-page-2/#comment-221383 Sameer Sat, 15 Nov 2008 23:40:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5487#comment-221383 <p>If you want to see how Piyush "Bobby" Jindal voted on issues and what groups he supported from 0% to 100% of the time see this site below. Just because he is Indian doesn't mean you and he support the same issues, so see for yourself if you like what he supports or not:</p> <p>http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=35481</p> If you want to see how Piyush “Bobby” Jindal voted on issues and what groups he supported from 0% to 100% of the time see this site below. Just because he is Indian doesn’t mean you and he support the same issues, so see for yourself if you like what he supports or not:

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=35481

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By: MN http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/29/bobby_jindal_as/comment-page-2/#comment-221041 MN Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:33:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5487#comment-221041 <p>FYI - now here is the kicker, see the last sentence and remember that when you read Lamb's breakdown of Obama's ethnic heritage (my guess is he did not know which race Arabs fall under in the US):</p> <p>In the US here are the four race categories (directive 15) promulgated in 1978 by the OMB:</p> <pre><code> " * American Indian/Alaska Native: this category includes indigenous north American groups, and despite genetic similarity, remains distinct from indigenous persons from central and south America because of certain land and treaty obligations; * Asian or Pacific Islander: this category originally covered persons with origins in countries East of the Indian subcontinent, but was adjusted after the Association of Indians in America lobbied the OMB to move their group out of the white race category; * Black: persons with origins in the black racial groups of Africa- this category purposely does not encompass continental Africa to distinguish North African regions and European settler populations; and * White: persons originating in Europe, the Middle East and North Africa" </code></pre> FYI – now here is the kicker, see the last sentence and remember that when you read Lamb’s breakdown of Obama’s ethnic heritage (my guess is he did not know which race Arabs fall under in the US):

In the US here are the four race categories (directive 15) promulgated in 1978 by the OMB:

     " * American Indian/Alaska Native: this category includes indigenous north American groups, and despite genetic similarity, remains distinct from indigenous persons from central and south America because of certain land and treaty obligations;
      * Asian or Pacific Islander: this category originally covered persons with origins in countries East of the Indian subcontinent, but was adjusted after the Association of Indians in America lobbied the OMB to move their group out of the white race category;
      * Black: persons with origins in the black racial groups of Africa- this category purposely does not encompass continental Africa to distinguish North African regions and European settler populations; and
      * White: persons originating in Europe, the Middle East and North Africa"
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By: MN http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/29/bobby_jindal_as/comment-page-2/#comment-221038 MN Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:24:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5487#comment-221038 <p>The way they otherized Obama is mind boggling - here is a popular right wing blog that manages to stick to black Americans and Arabs and Muslims while this so called reporter tries to tear down Obama:</p> <p>http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html</p> <p>Luckily there are some people out there who take on jerks like Lamb:</p> <p>The Little Lie and How It Grew http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/10/16-1 http://www.kabobfest.com/2008/10/arabizing-obama.html http://voiceswithoutvotes.org/2008/10/12/is-obama-arab-should-we-care/ http://mediamatters.org/items/200809220015</p> The way they otherized Obama is mind boggling – here is a popular right wing blog that manages to stick to black Americans and Arabs and Muslims while this so called reporter tries to tear down Obama:

http://kennethelamb.blogspot.com/2008/02/barak-obama-questions-about-ethnic.html

Luckily there are some people out there who take on jerks like Lamb:

The Little Lie and How It Grew http://www.commondreams.org/view/2008/10/16-1 http://www.kabobfest.com/2008/10/arabizing-obama.html http://voiceswithoutvotes.org/2008/10/12/is-obama-arab-should-we-care/ http://mediamatters.org/items/200809220015

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By: tamo http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/29/bobby_jindal_as/comment-page-2/#comment-220466 tamo Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:55:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5487#comment-220466 <p>Why do people assume Jindal would accept being at the bottom of a Palin/Jindal ticket? She does not have anywhere near his academic or business experience. Additionally, he would not accept the lower position of Assistant to the head of the Louisiana University system. He is not the type to take second place, especially not to Palin.</p> Why do people assume Jindal would accept being at the bottom of a Palin/Jindal ticket? She does not have anywhere near his academic or business experience. Additionally, he would not accept the lower position of Assistant to the head of the Louisiana University system. He is not the type to take second place, especially not to Palin.

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