Comments on: In Which I Congratulate Adiga, and Try to Avoid a Blogspat http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/17/in_which_i_cong/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mamu http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/17/in_which_i_cong/comment-page-1/#comment-219016 mamu Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:25:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5471#comment-219016 <p>[EDITED BY SM INTERN TO REMOVE GARBAGE.]</p> <p>Adiga has been gutsy in tackling a complex and urgent subject. If you were expecting social commentary, it's disappointing, although as a novel it's good fun.</p> <p>Adiga's plot is somewhat predictable -- the murder that is committed is the one that readers will expect throughout, but The White Tiger suffers little for this fault. Caught up in Balram's world -- and his wonderful turn of phrase, the pages turn themselves. Brimming with idiosyncrasy, sarcastic, cunning, and often hilarious, Balram is reminiscent of the endless talkers that populate the novels of the great Czech novelist Bohumil Hrabal."</p> <p>And lastly, Adiga’s message isn’t subtle or novel, but Balram’s appealingly sardonic voice and acute observations of the social order are both winning and unsettling.</p> <p>For many of the above, he won the booker prize.</p> [EDITED BY SM INTERN TO REMOVE GARBAGE.]

Adiga has been gutsy in tackling a complex and urgent subject. If you were expecting social commentary, it’s disappointing, although as a novel it’s good fun.

Adiga’s plot is somewhat predictable — the murder that is committed is the one that readers will expect throughout, but The White Tiger suffers little for this fault. Caught up in Balram’s world — and his wonderful turn of phrase, the pages turn themselves. Brimming with idiosyncrasy, sarcastic, cunning, and often hilarious, Balram is reminiscent of the endless talkers that populate the novels of the great Czech novelist Bohumil Hrabal.”

And lastly, Adiga’s message isn’t subtle or novel, but Balram’s appealingly sardonic voice and acute observations of the social order are both winning and unsettling.

For many of the above, he won the booker prize.

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By: Suzy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/17/in_which_i_cong/comment-page-1/#comment-219011 Suzy Sun, 19 Oct 2008 13:36:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5471#comment-219011 <blockquote>but heck, amardeep, and most of you literay geniuses here.. will probably never win the booker, even if you tried. so kudos to adiga..</blockquote> <p>Seeing as you make personal attacks mixed in with moronic hysterical and immature arguments, I just want to say that your ad hominem idiocy probably reflects your bitter and very small mind. Get a life.</p> but heck, amardeep, and most of you literay geniuses here.. will probably never win the booker, even if you tried. so kudos to adiga..

Seeing as you make personal attacks mixed in with moronic hysterical and immature arguments, I just want to say that your ad hominem idiocy probably reflects your bitter and very small mind. Get a life.

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By: Filmiholic http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/17/in_which_i_cong/comment-page-1/#comment-219008 Filmiholic Sun, 19 Oct 2008 07:34:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5471#comment-219008 <p>I second Amardeep's pointer to Amitava Kumar's <i>Home Products</i>. I was a big fan of AK's from back when his two non-fiction books came out, especially <i>Bombay London New York</i>, but it was really interesting to see him switch to fiction, and at that, weaving in so many Hindi film references and reflections, what's not to love?</p> <p>And on <i>Slumdog Millionaire</i>, I too thought it was amazing, and realized at one point that I had forgotten while watching it that it had been made by a non-desi, and also totally forgotten until the credits ran that it had come from Swarup's Q&A, which I had passed on reading, based on the many iffy reviews it got.</p> I second Amardeep’s pointer to Amitava Kumar’s Home Products. I was a big fan of AK’s from back when his two non-fiction books came out, especially Bombay London New York, but it was really interesting to see him switch to fiction, and at that, weaving in so many Hindi film references and reflections, what’s not to love?

And on Slumdog Millionaire, I too thought it was amazing, and realized at one point that I had forgotten while watching it that it had been made by a non-desi, and also totally forgotten until the credits ran that it had come from Swarup’s Q&A, which I had passed on reading, based on the many iffy reviews it got.

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By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/17/in_which_i_cong/comment-page-1/#comment-219007 RC Sun, 19 Oct 2008 05:13:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5471#comment-219007 <p>Why cant Amardeep critique a book? #17, what a BS argument ? u topped it with a personal attack. Very classy move!!! Just because one committee gave a prize to an Author does meant a damn thing.</p> <p>There is one more, more prestigious committee known by the name of Nobel, has given a "peace prize" to Henry Kisssinger and Yasir Arafat!!! So dont give me the BS of "group of literary experts"</p> Why cant Amardeep critique a book? #17, what a BS argument ? u topped it with a personal attack. Very classy move!!! Just because one committee gave a prize to an Author does meant a damn thing.

There is one more, more prestigious committee known by the name of Nobel, has given a “peace prize” to Henry Kisssinger and Yasir Arafat!!! So dont give me the BS of “group of literary experts”

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By: ramirez http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/17/in_which_i_cong/comment-page-1/#comment-219005 ramirez Sun, 19 Oct 2008 02:51:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5471#comment-219005 <p>lol, amardeep is tenured, ooh, he has the right to voice his legitimate opinion of a booker prize winner.</p> <p>sure, even george bush, joe the plumber, maria carey and mayawati can do so.</p> <p>but heck, amardeep, and most of you literay geniuses here.. will probably never win the booker, even if you tried. so kudos to adiga..</p> <p>even salman rushdie had to face the zealots of islamo facism in iran.. when he won the booker</p> lol, amardeep is tenured, ooh, he has the right to voice his legitimate opinion of a booker prize winner.

sure, even george bush, joe the plumber, maria carey and mayawati can do so.

but heck, amardeep, and most of you literay geniuses here.. will probably never win the booker, even if you tried. so kudos to adiga..

even salman rushdie had to face the zealots of islamo facism in iran.. when he won the booker

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By: fsowalla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/17/in_which_i_cong/comment-page-1/#comment-219003 fsowalla Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:24:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5471#comment-219003 <p>Speaking of emerging voices from S. Asia, William Dalrymple on emerging Pakistani writers (in the context of India v Pakistan writers) <a href="http://us.ft.com/ftgateway/superpage.ft?news_id=fto101020081710215596&page=2">here</a>.</p> Speaking of emerging voices from S. Asia, William Dalrymple on emerging Pakistani writers (in the context of India v Pakistan writers) here.

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By: Suzy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/17/in_which_i_cong/comment-page-1/#comment-219000 Suzy Sat, 18 Oct 2008 23:17:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5471#comment-219000 <blockquote>and your saying essentially your qualified literary opinion weighs more or somehow is better than the cumulative,established, proven literary expertise and qualification of the booker selection folks, right ? sorry to tell you bro, do i sense some jealousy here ?</blockquote> <p>An appreciation of literature is all about opinion. The good thing about Amardeep's posts on Adiga's book is that they are informed and qualified opinion; qualified by a reasonable and mature literary sensibility. I agree more or less agree with his view on the novel. Although I don't agree with his placement of it in relation to the value of Naipaul's writings. But that's OK, I respect him enough to accept a different perspective on that issue. Others have different views about Adiga's work too and back up their claims, and that's how literary appreciation progresses. Your posts reek of small-time and bitter personal vindictiveness, but they have some amusement value in that respect.</p> and your saying essentially your qualified literary opinion weighs more or somehow is better than the cumulative,established, proven literary expertise and qualification of the booker selection folks, right ? sorry to tell you bro, do i sense some jealousy here ?

An appreciation of literature is all about opinion. The good thing about Amardeep’s posts on Adiga’s book is that they are informed and qualified opinion; qualified by a reasonable and mature literary sensibility. I agree more or less agree with his view on the novel. Although I don’t agree with his placement of it in relation to the value of Naipaul’s writings. But that’s OK, I respect him enough to accept a different perspective on that issue. Others have different views about Adiga’s work too and back up their claims, and that’s how literary appreciation progresses. Your posts reek of small-time and bitter personal vindictiveness, but they have some amusement value in that respect.

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By: Amardeep http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/17/in_which_i_cong/comment-page-1/#comment-218998 Amardeep Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:36:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5471#comment-218998 <p><em>amardeep, your a no-name wannabe assistant instructor at some no-name school, right? and your saying essentially your qualified literary opinion weighs more or somehow is better than the cumulative,established, proven literary expertise and qualification of the booker selection folks, right ? sorry to tell you bro, do i sense some jealousy here ?</em></p> <p>If you read my post I actually never said I was challenging their judgment or casting aspersions on the Booker Prize. I respect the Prize -- it is a big deal, and a real honor for anyone who wins it.</p> <p>All I am saying is that I disagree with it. Wow, how presumptuous of me!</p> <p>Also, just to be clear, I have tenure at a research university that is ranked in the top 40 on U.S. News & World Report (I think Lehigh was #33 this year).</p> <p>(Thanks for getting my back, Seahawks Fan ;-)</p> amardeep, your a no-name wannabe assistant instructor at some no-name school, right? and your saying essentially your qualified literary opinion weighs more or somehow is better than the cumulative,established, proven literary expertise and qualification of the booker selection folks, right ? sorry to tell you bro, do i sense some jealousy here ?

If you read my post I actually never said I was challenging their judgment or casting aspersions on the Booker Prize. I respect the Prize — it is a big deal, and a real honor for anyone who wins it.

All I am saying is that I disagree with it. Wow, how presumptuous of me!

Also, just to be clear, I have tenure at a research university that is ranked in the top 40 on U.S. News & World Report (I think Lehigh was #33 this year).

(Thanks for getting my back, Seahawks Fan ;-)

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By: vv http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/17/in_which_i_cong/comment-page-1/#comment-218996 vv Sat, 18 Oct 2008 22:23:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5471#comment-218996 <blockquote>Meanwhile, Adiga wants to make those same people sweat (especially if they are NRIs or R-NRIs/Returned NRIs) about their complicity</blockquote> <p>It is possible this is what appeals to the Booker folks.</p> Meanwhile, Adiga wants to make those same people sweat (especially if they are NRIs or R-NRIs/Returned NRIs) about their complicity

It is possible this is what appeals to the Booker folks.

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By: Seahawks fan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/10/17/in_which_i_cong/comment-page-1/#comment-218994 Seahawks fan Sat, 18 Oct 2008 21:58:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5471#comment-218994 <blockquote>amardeep, your a no-name wannabe assistant instructor at some no-name school, right?</blockquote> <p>The school may be no-name but Amardeep certainly isn't no-name. He's big-name compared to some of the no-name profs at big-name schools. Not that it really matters.</p> amardeep, your a no-name wannabe assistant instructor at some no-name school, right?

The school may be no-name but Amardeep certainly isn’t no-name. He’s big-name compared to some of the no-name profs at big-name schools. Not that it really matters.

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