Comments on: Tragedy in the San Fernando Valley

By: maddy

maddy — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 08:33:24 +0000

i knew this family closely.did not suspect this drastic measure by kartik.he was unemployed.but that does not mean he had any financial problems.he was extremely brillant,where he read the markets very well. insecurity must be the cause to this drastic act!

By: amitava

amitava — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:24:21 +0000

conspiracy theory? maybe maybe not.

forget financial troubles. It being LAPD, ow about they came across a homicide case, decided that it is simply easir to just close it off as a'financial' suicide etc, and close the file? What proof that he himself did they killing? yeah yeah letters wills whatnot - come on, 'They' are no better than a third world country when it comes to financial trickery, we know now, why not in this too?

Looks lke ' oh some eeendian guy seems killed, close the file somehow already' attitude. No one is giong to hold candle light vigils for him neighbour might not even know their names..

By: those who can't, speculate

those who can't, speculate — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:46:14 +0000

I am truly amazed by all the desi Angela Lansburies on this thread that this tragedy seems to have unearthed. Although their methodology seems closer in spirit to Bill Frist. At least, that guy had a videofeed and conversations with the family, to work with.

By: Amrita

Amrita — Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:39:04 +0000

Venkat, you mean he poisoned them first, rather than drugged them the way brawn figured it out, so the gunshot to the head was just to make sure? If he thought that hard about it, there had to be something about himself that he didn’t want them to know.

By: Venkat

Venkat — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:37:52 +0000

Dude, murder suicides happen every day back in the Desh. BFD. Just the other day some idiot took out his whole family AND both his in-lays in TN by mixing pesticide into the “juice”. It’s gotta be a cultural thing. The desi reponse to massive stress, I guess.

By: Priya

Priya — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:49:44 +0000

59 Â· brawn said

He could have easily drugged the family

Hope the media covers that story from the police after the post-mortem.

By: Priya

Priya — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 13:40:29 +0000

59 Ã‚Â· brawn said

Guys, don't lose your sleep over this issue, its pointless. He could have easily drugged the family and killed them in their sleep

This may very well be a murder-suicide but I hope the media keeps a tab on such logical questions and not pass it off as one-time sensational story. I am not questioning the competency of the police but tomorrow a homicide may very well be passed off as murder-suicide. For e.g. just reading the recent news I haven't able to figure how an Indian student in Missouri who commits a murder-suicide can fall into a lake with a gun-shot wound ? Is it so easy for a student to get a gun. If so then it is scary.

By: Shalu

Shalu — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 02:58:59 +0000

54 Â· Casey Lucchese said

I don't think mental illness played as large a role as a distorted sense of cultural duty,

I disagree-- I believe mental illness can often play a HUGE role when it comes to murder suicides--regardless of ones cultural identity.

One of my biggest soapbox issues is South Asian Mental Health Issues-- or namely, the lack of information and open discussion of it.

By: brawn

brawn — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:06:49 +0000

At risk of being labelled the resident conspiracy theorist, I refuse to believe that it was a murder(s)-suicide. It's next to impossible to kill five people in different rooms in the house with a gun, without a silencer (and the gun did not have it). At the first shot, someone almost everyone in their rooms will freeze. At the second, at least one or two people will have a flight-or-fight response. Each one was killed in their own room. The father must have used either a silencer or gone abt murdering at the dead of the night when everybody in the family were fast asleep so that nobody could hear the gun-shot as the other members were being killed ? Don't 19yrs olds and mother-in-law lock their bedroom while sleeping ? I hope the post-mortem revelas the time each one was killed. Or is that the house is so huge that nobody in the house can hear a gun-shot in the other rooms ? Just making a wild-guess though the police may have verified it...I suppose the note that he left is his own handwriting (and not forged) or else it could have been just murder by some third person. Moor Nam, do you think there's a way he might have killed them all one room, laid everyone out separately and then killed himself? It's pretty weird to leave a bunch of mysteries like that behind,

Guys, don't lose your sleep over this issue, its pointless. He could have easily drugged the family and killed them in their sleep.

By: Pravin

Pravin — Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:44:20 +0000

This was not a spur of the moment decision. It is a result of a mentally weak guy with an overdose of a warped versoin “one for all and all for one” complex when it comes to his family.

“His narrative is one of talking about this tragedy befalling him and his contemplation of an available exit or solution,” Moore said. “One is taking his own life and the other is taking the lives of his family and himself. … He talked himself into the second strategy, believing that was, in effect, the honorable thing to do.” Moore said the several-page narrative appeared to have been written over a period of time. “This was something that was not a spur-of-the-moment type of event,” he said. Moore said it was clear to police that the family members were close and “had an affection for each other.” He said the parents had given up their master bedroom to their eldest — who was spending the weekend home from college — “out of respect.”

The guy had to know his eldest son was going to be a big shot in whatever pursuit he chose. It looks like he weighed all the options and still found this to be the best option. Having your sense of pride wrapped up in your career and financial health is fucked up.