Comments on: Eva Mehta- Devoted and Disciplined http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/16/eva_mehta_devot_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Eva Mehta http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/16/eva_mehta_devot_1/comment-page-2/#comment-221221 Eva Mehta Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:34:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5413#comment-221221 <p>Hi this is Eva Mehta. The girl who did 34 day of fasting. if u have any question i will anwser.</p> Hi this is Eva Mehta. The girl who did 34 day of fasting. if u have any question i will anwser.

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By: harriti http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/16/eva_mehta_devot_1/comment-page-2/#comment-216495 harriti Mon, 22 Sep 2008 09:38:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5413#comment-216495 <p>I think a lot of this is being slightly misunderstood, as a Jain myself, I can understand where Eva is coming from, though I have never been able to fast more than a day. My brother on the other hand does the whole fast for the 8 days of paryushan while attending school. In my family we were allowed to do the fasting as long as it didn't interfere with other responsibilities like school. I'm surprised that her mother didn't make her eat when she was too weak to walk to the temple from the car. The fasting has a lot to do with inner reflection, though Eva stated she prayed to her God, I think she meant more as a meditation aspect since as a Jain we have no controller of the Universe, no creator or Destroyer Gods, just Teachers that show us the way to enlightenment. Human beings who had found the way. I just think that people need to look at two things, in the aspects of abuse and so forth - one her parents did not make her do it, though she won't be allowed to do it again next year. and in the aspects of a psychological disorder, if you fast - and this has happened to a lot of my friends - when you go back to eating you actually gain more weight then you lost cause your body kind of hordes it in case it goes without again, fasting basically slows down your metabolism so in the end it's not a good way to lose weight. Also she was doing it on a spiritual level is it not allowed in our society to do anything against the norm with out it meaning you have psychological disorder. She thinks a different way then you, she has different values does not mean she is suffering from anorexia!</p> I think a lot of this is being slightly misunderstood, as a Jain myself, I can understand where Eva is coming from, though I have never been able to fast more than a day. My brother on the other hand does the whole fast for the 8 days of paryushan while attending school. In my family we were allowed to do the fasting as long as it didn’t interfere with other responsibilities like school. I’m surprised that her mother didn’t make her eat when she was too weak to walk to the temple from the car. The fasting has a lot to do with inner reflection, though Eva stated she prayed to her God, I think she meant more as a meditation aspect since as a Jain we have no controller of the Universe, no creator or Destroyer Gods, just Teachers that show us the way to enlightenment. Human beings who had found the way. I just think that people need to look at two things, in the aspects of abuse and so forth – one her parents did not make her do it, though she won’t be allowed to do it again next year. and in the aspects of a psychological disorder, if you fast – and this has happened to a lot of my friends – when you go back to eating you actually gain more weight then you lost cause your body kind of hordes it in case it goes without again, fasting basically slows down your metabolism so in the end it’s not a good way to lose weight. Also she was doing it on a spiritual level is it not allowed in our society to do anything against the norm with out it meaning you have psychological disorder. She thinks a different way then you, she has different values does not mean she is suffering from anorexia!

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By: vp http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/16/eva_mehta_devot_1/comment-page-2/#comment-216450 vp Sun, 21 Sep 2008 14:26:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5413#comment-216450 <p>the latest on the jains.. in mumbai they have now decided that as a community they will not eat past sundown.. so no parties/ receptions etc in the evenings now..</p> the latest on the jains.. in mumbai they have now decided that as a community they will not eat past sundown.. so no parties/ receptions etc in the evenings now..

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By: Pagla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/16/eva_mehta_devot_1/comment-page-2/#comment-216383 Pagla Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:38:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5413#comment-216383 <p><i>10 · <b>Sage khoofia</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005413.html#comment216058">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>a week. It was very hard.</blockquote> <p>I don't know whether you are joking or not, but I did that once as a kid. This was way back in India, my school had arranged a boy scout camp. The first time I went into the bathroom, lizards flew over me and jumped on the ground. They tried to jump back to where they were. It was horrifying. So, I was scared to go to the bathroom. Other boys would take a dump in the woods; something which I could never do. I would pee in the woods, but I couldn't dump. So, all week, I was walking around trying to control my bowels. I wouldn;t eat much either because the camp food sucked</p> 10 · Sage khoofia said

a week. It was very hard.

I don’t know whether you are joking or not, but I did that once as a kid. This was way back in India, my school had arranged a boy scout camp. The first time I went into the bathroom, lizards flew over me and jumped on the ground. They tried to jump back to where they were. It was horrifying. So, I was scared to go to the bathroom. Other boys would take a dump in the woods; something which I could never do. I would pee in the woods, but I couldn’t dump. So, all week, I was walking around trying to control my bowels. I wouldn;t eat much either because the camp food sucked

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By: DesiInNJ http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/16/eva_mehta_devot_1/comment-page-2/#comment-216242 DesiInNJ Fri, 19 Sep 2008 01:34:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5413#comment-216242 <p><i>78 · <B>pj</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005413.html#comment216207">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>A large section of my social circle is Jain. Funny how ALL the people I know who've undertaken the fast are female. Funny how the ones who fasted until death (becoming "Saints") were all Widows.</blockquote> <p>As a Jain male I have fasted numerous times, never more than a day. It is a humbling, educational and philosophically awakening experience. You feel a lot more generous towards poor people once you go through it. While there is no documented coorelation, Jains are very generous with donations in India. Santhara is a highly misunderstood practice, don't repeat it without researching.</p> 78 · pj said

A large section of my social circle is Jain. Funny how ALL the people I know who’ve undertaken the fast are female. Funny how the ones who fasted until death (becoming “Saints”) were all Widows.

As a Jain male I have fasted numerous times, never more than a day. It is a humbling, educational and philosophically awakening experience. You feel a lot more generous towards poor people once you go through it. While there is no documented coorelation, Jains are very generous with donations in India. Santhara is a highly misunderstood practice, don’t repeat it without researching.

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By: A N N A http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/16/eva_mehta_devot_1/comment-page-2/#comment-216210 A N N A Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:46:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5413#comment-216210 <p><i>80 · <B>pj</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005413.html#comment216209">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Sorry Anna, I just got seriously wound up by the adoring tone of your article.</blockquote> <p>Not at all...no need to apologize! I'm glad you commented, because I am surprised my tone was adoring-- that's not what I wanted to convey. Constructive feedback is always really helpful, so thank you. I was striving for something neutral, because I know people who take fasting really seriously...just like I know people who think indulging in it is sheer idiocy which no God would truly appreciate.</p> <p>Every year, before lent, I get a lecture from my Mom about how we're already vegetarian and my going vegan for my fast is a terrible idea, since I'm addicted to milk and it's how I get almost all my protein. So I could relate to the child-parent dynamic, but I am also a bit concerned about how weak they allowed her to become...I never needed a wheelchair, and the one time I grew even slightly "feeble", my priest intervened and told me to cut that shit out. "God doesn't want you to get sick. He wants you to grow. This is a time for reflection, not self-abuse" etc.</p> <p>I don't adore Eva-- but I can appreciate another person of faith, practicing hers. :)</p> 80 · pj said

Sorry Anna, I just got seriously wound up by the adoring tone of your article.

Not at all…no need to apologize! I’m glad you commented, because I am surprised my tone was adoring– that’s not what I wanted to convey. Constructive feedback is always really helpful, so thank you. I was striving for something neutral, because I know people who take fasting really seriously…just like I know people who think indulging in it is sheer idiocy which no God would truly appreciate.

Every year, before lent, I get a lecture from my Mom about how we’re already vegetarian and my going vegan for my fast is a terrible idea, since I’m addicted to milk and it’s how I get almost all my protein. So I could relate to the child-parent dynamic, but I am also a bit concerned about how weak they allowed her to become…I never needed a wheelchair, and the one time I grew even slightly “feeble”, my priest intervened and told me to cut that shit out. “God doesn’t want you to get sick. He wants you to grow. This is a time for reflection, not self-abuse” etc.

I don’t adore Eva– but I can appreciate another person of faith, practicing hers. :)

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By: pj http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/16/eva_mehta_devot_1/comment-page-2/#comment-216209 pj Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:30:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5413#comment-216209 <p>Sorry Anna, I just got seriously wound up by the adoring tone of your article. Funny how you scratch the surface of a religion (any one - no particular hate for Jainism), and something dark and dirty oozes out.</p> Sorry Anna, I just got seriously wound up by the adoring tone of your article. Funny how you scratch the surface of a religion (any one – no particular hate for Jainism), and something dark and dirty oozes out.

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By: pj http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/16/eva_mehta_devot_1/comment-page-2/#comment-216207 pj Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:24:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5413#comment-216207 <p>A large section of my social circle is Jain. Funny how ALL the people I know who've undertaken the fast are female. Funny how the ones who fasted until death (becoming "Saints") were all Widows.</p> A large section of my social circle is Jain. Funny how ALL the people I know who’ve undertaken the fast are female. Funny how the ones who fasted until death (becoming “Saints”) were all Widows.

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By: BlackCat http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/16/eva_mehta_devot_1/comment-page-2/#comment-216185 BlackCat Thu, 18 Sep 2008 01:23:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5413#comment-216185 <p>It just seems kind of odd that the temple would mention that she holds the record for the longest fast. It makes it seem like she did it through the spirit of competition.</p> <p>And surely there are better ways of controlling your senses than doing dangerous things like that. At least, with sports, where athletes do push themselves beyond endurance, they still make sure that they get plenty of fuel and that everything is in working order. Religion shouldn't be about trying to indulge in as self-destructive behavior as possible, and setting yourself up for vitamin deficiencies, muscle wasting, and other long-term problems. Sure, it's about improving your life, but not at the cost of making your body break down.</p> It just seems kind of odd that the temple would mention that she holds the record for the longest fast. It makes it seem like she did it through the spirit of competition.

And surely there are better ways of controlling your senses than doing dangerous things like that. At least, with sports, where athletes do push themselves beyond endurance, they still make sure that they get plenty of fuel and that everything is in working order. Religion shouldn’t be about trying to indulge in as self-destructive behavior as possible, and setting yourself up for vitamin deficiencies, muscle wasting, and other long-term problems. Sure, it’s about improving your life, but not at the cost of making your body break down.

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By: Dr Amonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/16/eva_mehta_devot_1/comment-page-2/#comment-216178 Dr Amonymous Thu, 18 Sep 2008 00:47:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5413#comment-216178 <p><i>70 · <b>RahulD</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005413.html#comment216147">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>In view of Dr. A's em-PHA-sis on scientific rigor, and side-stepping the interpretative findings of a mainstream media source that requires its articles to be dumbed down for a wider audience...I would like to point out that a lot of Psychological Disorders are over-diagnosed; Eating Disorders, ADHD, Bi-Polar, Depression...a lot of these are overdiagnosed. The criteria (DSM) cannot always be translated across cultures. Now since a lot of this over-diagnosis is by Doctors, even their "opinions" on her disorder are incomplete and probably misdiagnoses, without taking into account the relevant socio-cultural factors. Just coz a bunch of Indians (whom we cannot relate to for whatever reason) do it, does not make it a disorder...</blockquote> <p>I agree with you that American psychiatric describing and prescribing is often full o' it, especially when the market gets involved. But at the same time I can recognize that South Asian American culture(s) frequently have an aversion to dealing with mental health issues, sexual abuse, lgbt issues, patriarchy, overfocus on status, and a lot of other things. There are ways of not being a race traitor without ignoring what seem to be obvious problems from other ways of looking at the world (like believing that people should not fast to the point of having to be carried from a vehicle to a building at the age of 17, all else equal ;)). in fact, one might argue that not doing so would be pretty Orientalist.</p> <p></blockquote></p> 70 · RahulD said

In view of Dr. A’s em-PHA-sis on scientific rigor, and side-stepping the interpretative findings of a mainstream media source that requires its articles to be dumbed down for a wider audience…I would like to point out that a lot of Psychological Disorders are over-diagnosed; Eating Disorders, ADHD, Bi-Polar, Depression…a lot of these are overdiagnosed. The criteria (DSM) cannot always be translated across cultures. Now since a lot of this over-diagnosis is by Doctors, even their “opinions” on her disorder are incomplete and probably misdiagnoses, without taking into account the relevant socio-cultural factors. Just coz a bunch of Indians (whom we cannot relate to for whatever reason) do it, does not make it a disorder…

I agree with you that American psychiatric describing and prescribing is often full o’ it, especially when the market gets involved. But at the same time I can recognize that South Asian American culture(s) frequently have an aversion to dealing with mental health issues, sexual abuse, lgbt issues, patriarchy, overfocus on status, and a lot of other things. There are ways of not being a race traitor without ignoring what seem to be obvious problems from other ways of looking at the world (like believing that people should not fast to the point of having to be carried from a vehicle to a building at the age of 17, all else equal ;) ). in fact, one might argue that not doing so would be pretty Orientalist.

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