Comments on: A final set of political tees http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/08/a_final_set_of/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mutiny reader http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/08/a_final_set_of/comment-page-2/#comment-216721 mutiny reader Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:54:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5403#comment-216721 <p>AMEN.</p> AMEN.

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By: seebs http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/08/a_final_set_of/comment-page-2/#comment-216719 seebs Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:45:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5403#comment-216719 <p>This is coming from a graphic designer's perspective. Critiques on this piece can go down two paths:</p> <p>1) the execution of the design 2) the content of the design</p> <hr /> <p><b>Execution</b> Honestly, so much of it looks like cut-and-paste work. If this were collage-work, that would be acceptable. Unfortunately, the rest of the work does not reflect that aesthetic, leading me to believe the result was unintended. Take for example the second piece. While the masking and edge work is decent, there is too much contrast in the details of the pieces. The ornate image behind the 7-11 does not work well with the simplified logo and ", not 9/11" copy. Simplify both, or simplify neither. Make the elements work together. To achieve visual balance, a design piece should either be constructed entirely of cohesive elements, or none at all (if that's what you're going for, with appropriate defense). The 7 referencing the elephant's trunk is clever, but lost in the final product.</p> <p>Here is where I may come off as elitist. Anyone with a computer and Photoshop can call themselves a graphic designer. Do you go to a 4-year school and pick up the bachelor's? Or do you pick up the associate's degree in 2 years? The market is continuously becoming saturated, making it a little harder to tell who has the talent, and a little harder for designers to separate themselves from competition. But it's my belief that the cream rises to the top, and good designers will produce good design, regardless of pedigree.</p> <p><b>Content</b> Coming from a Roman Catholic perspective, I cannot speak for the people of other religious views. Some may find the shirts offensive, and others may take it tongue-in-cheek. I personally wouldn't wear them. However, coming from an <i>Indian</i> perspective, I can without fail say I would never wear the 7/11 9/11 shirt.</p> <p>Maybe it's because I have been born and raised in Dallas, and there are quite enough Southern misconceptions about Indians as is. Maybe it's because there are plenty of bubbas ready to exact vigilante justice just in case things get suspicious or 9/11-y. Now, when I say the above, I do not mean for it to be an implication of the entire South-- there are many people who have grown with the times and have good heads on their shoulders. But there is also a present minority that isn't so sharp. To me, wearing the 7/11 9/11 shirt is akin to saying "Hey, don't make a stereotype about us being terrorists!-- but you know what? It's okay to generalize us as Quick-E-Mart workers." You are trading one stereotype for another, when neither are acceptable. Any positive work the shirt does to differentiate Indians from the terrorist bombers was undermined by the 7/11 reference.</p> <p>But hey, maybe that's just me.</p> This is coming from a graphic designer’s perspective. Critiques on this piece can go down two paths:

1) the execution of the design 2) the content of the design


Execution Honestly, so much of it looks like cut-and-paste work. If this were collage-work, that would be acceptable. Unfortunately, the rest of the work does not reflect that aesthetic, leading me to believe the result was unintended. Take for example the second piece. While the masking and edge work is decent, there is too much contrast in the details of the pieces. The ornate image behind the 7-11 does not work well with the simplified logo and “, not 9/11″ copy. Simplify both, or simplify neither. Make the elements work together. To achieve visual balance, a design piece should either be constructed entirely of cohesive elements, or none at all (if that’s what you’re going for, with appropriate defense). The 7 referencing the elephant’s trunk is clever, but lost in the final product.

Here is where I may come off as elitist. Anyone with a computer and Photoshop can call themselves a graphic designer. Do you go to a 4-year school and pick up the bachelor’s? Or do you pick up the associate’s degree in 2 years? The market is continuously becoming saturated, making it a little harder to tell who has the talent, and a little harder for designers to separate themselves from competition. But it’s my belief that the cream rises to the top, and good designers will produce good design, regardless of pedigree.

Content Coming from a Roman Catholic perspective, I cannot speak for the people of other religious views. Some may find the shirts offensive, and others may take it tongue-in-cheek. I personally wouldn’t wear them. However, coming from an Indian perspective, I can without fail say I would never wear the 7/11 9/11 shirt.

Maybe it’s because I have been born and raised in Dallas, and there are quite enough Southern misconceptions about Indians as is. Maybe it’s because there are plenty of bubbas ready to exact vigilante justice just in case things get suspicious or 9/11-y. Now, when I say the above, I do not mean for it to be an implication of the entire South– there are many people who have grown with the times and have good heads on their shoulders. But there is also a present minority that isn’t so sharp. To me, wearing the 7/11 9/11 shirt is akin to saying “Hey, don’t make a stereotype about us being terrorists!– but you know what? It’s okay to generalize us as Quick-E-Mart workers.” You are trading one stereotype for another, when neither are acceptable. Any positive work the shirt does to differentiate Indians from the terrorist bombers was undermined by the 7/11 reference.

But hey, maybe that’s just me.

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By: i slam islam? http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/08/a_final_set_of/comment-page-2/#comment-216351 i slam islam? Sat, 20 Sep 2008 03:25:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5403#comment-216351 <p>hey, i gots another one. i promise it'll make you laugh till your belly hurts. wait for it, wait for it...</p> <p>cow jockey, not camel jockey.</p> <p>i told ya, it was a winner.</p> <p>oh, and by the way, totally agree with you guys about those two racist white people you posted today. just can't believe the twats going around these days...</p> hey, i gots another one. i promise it’ll make you laugh till your belly hurts. wait for it, wait for it…

cow jockey, not camel jockey.

i told ya, it was a winner.

oh, and by the way, totally agree with you guys about those two racist white people you posted today. just can’t believe the twats going around these days…

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By: Salil Maniktahla http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/08/a_final_set_of/comment-page-2/#comment-216043 Salil Maniktahla Tue, 16 Sep 2008 17:11:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5403#comment-216043 <p>Eh, don't listen to the riff-raff. You knew as soon as this post went up that brownz love to be offended. Amen, Harbeer...hell, this kind of stupid shit is why I only lurk these days.</p> <p>The t-shirts are all funny, and I'll buy #1 in a Medium, thank you. And I'll wager that if any of these whiners saw one in person, they'd laugh and ask the wearer about it.</p> Eh, don’t listen to the riff-raff. You knew as soon as this post went up that brownz love to be offended. Amen, Harbeer…hell, this kind of stupid shit is why I only lurk these days.

The t-shirts are all funny, and I’ll buy #1 in a Medium, thank you. And I’ll wager that if any of these whiners saw one in person, they’d laugh and ask the wearer about it.

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By: flygirl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/08/a_final_set_of/comment-page-2/#comment-215797 flygirl Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:10:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5403#comment-215797 <p><i>65 · <b>Mango Boy</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005403.html#comment215751">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>We are bombarded by Obama's unpleasant homely image constantly on TV and the web, must we now also see him portrayed as a deity??? </blockquote> <p>Time to get the old eyes checked, I think.</p> 65 · Mango Boy said

We are bombarded by Obama’s unpleasant homely image constantly on TV and the web, must we now also see him portrayed as a deity???

Time to get the old eyes checked, I think.

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By: flygirl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/08/a_final_set_of/comment-page-2/#comment-215796 flygirl Fri, 12 Sep 2008 15:04:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5403#comment-215796 <p>I thought T-shirt number 1 was hilarious, riffing on the Obamessaiah theme (seriously, do I have to explain it?). Design two, not so much.</p> I thought T-shirt number 1 was hilarious, riffing on the Obamessaiah theme (seriously, do I have to explain it?). Design two, not so much.

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By: WalkedOver http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/08/a_final_set_of/comment-page-2/#comment-215777 WalkedOver Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:37:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5403#comment-215777 <p>Yeah...that 7-11 v 9/11 T shirt - that's a no go. Its stupid for one. Two, I know at least one desi 7-11 owner who is not Hindu. Three, enough of the whining - when honestly is the last time someone through a rock through your store window for slamming one of planes into the WTC? Sure, there's the odd moron who cannot tell the difference between your average store owner and a terrorist, but come on. Quit fanning a fire that aint there.</p> Yeah…that 7-11 v 9/11 T shirt – that’s a no go. Its stupid for one. Two, I know at least one desi 7-11 owner who is not Hindu. Three, enough of the whining – when honestly is the last time someone through a rock through your store window for slamming one of planes into the WTC? Sure, there’s the odd moron who cannot tell the difference between your average store owner and a terrorist, but come on. Quit fanning a fire that aint there.

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By: trhr http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/08/a_final_set_of/comment-page-2/#comment-215776 trhr Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:36:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5403#comment-215776 <p>You must excersize sensitivity when portraying religious gods on this blog as caricatures. It can be offensive to some. Please use caution and judgment. This blog should be a safe space (and I believe it is) for people to speak; not one that sparks insults on someone's religion. I see your point in this political tees and understand the underlying humour and intention - but please do not do so at the expense of someone's else's faith.</p> You must excersize sensitivity when portraying religious gods on this blog as caricatures. It can be offensive to some. Please use caution and judgment. This blog should be a safe space (and I believe it is) for people to speak; not one that sparks insults on someone’s religion. I see your point in this political tees and understand the underlying humour and intention – but please do not do so at the expense of someone’s else’s faith.

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By: Mango Boy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/08/a_final_set_of/comment-page-2/#comment-215751 Mango Boy Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:43:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5403#comment-215751 <p>The depiction of Obama and Hilary as Krishna and Radha is vulgar, offensive, tacky and tasteless. We are bombarded by Obama's unpleasant homely image constantly on TV and the web, must we now also see him portrayed as a deity???</p> The depiction of Obama and Hilary as Krishna and Radha is vulgar, offensive, tacky and tasteless. We are bombarded by Obama’s unpleasant homely image constantly on TV and the web, must we now also see him portrayed as a deity???

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By: Harbeer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/09/08/a_final_set_of/comment-page-2/#comment-215745 Harbeer Thu, 11 Sep 2008 23:26:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5403#comment-215745 <p><i>63 · <b>jigglemyhandle</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005403.html#comment215740">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>I think we need to chill a bit and may be come back after few days and read our comment?</blockquote> <p>Dude, without exception, t-shirt threads on SM quickly unravel and uncover every <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005368.html#comment213518">cheap, sniping malcontent</a> with a petty ax to grind and absolutely nothing constructive to say. It's pretty amazing--the effort people are willing to expend to be anonymous jerks.</p> 63 · jigglemyhandle said

I think we need to chill a bit and may be come back after few days and read our comment?

Dude, without exception, t-shirt threads on SM quickly unravel and uncover every cheap, sniping malcontent with a petty ax to grind and absolutely nothing constructive to say. It’s pretty amazing–the effort people are willing to expend to be anonymous jerks.

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