Comments on: DNC Day 3: The Superdelegate and Money Man http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/28/dnc_day_3_the_s/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Harbeer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/28/dnc_day_3_the_s/comment-page-1/#comment-214677 Harbeer Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:45:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5378#comment-214677 <p><i>23 · <b>Sulabh</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005378.html#comment213973">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>o India is a growing economy and potential market for American goods.</blockquote> <p>What American goods besides the Old El Paso taco shells that are all the rage at kitty parties do you speak of? Subsidized agricultural commodities?</p> 23 · Sulabh said

o India is a growing economy and potential market for American goods.

What American goods besides the Old El Paso taco shells that are all the rage at kitty parties do you speak of? Subsidized agricultural commodities?

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By: Quizman http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/28/dnc_day_3_the_s/comment-page-1/#comment-214675 Quizman Thu, 04 Sep 2008 02:17:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5378#comment-214675 <p>Speaking of desis and the Iraq war, here's an interesting <a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10296649?IADID=Search-www.mercurynews.com-www.mercurynews.com">article</a> in the San Jose Mercury News that mentions a desi soldier, Capt. Sarita Malik. Video <a href="http://video.nbc4.com/player/?id=49590">greeting</a> her.</p> Speaking of desis and the Iraq war, here’s an interesting article in the San Jose Mercury News that mentions a desi soldier, Capt. Sarita Malik. Video greeting her.

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By: James Fowler http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/28/dnc_day_3_the_s/comment-page-1/#comment-214184 James Fowler Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:33:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5378#comment-214184 <p>Hurray! Nothing like giving nuclear technology (much of which will not be monitored) to a nation that refuses to sign the NPT, has close foreign relations with Iran and Russia, has seven states with laws outlawing conversion to any religion but Hinduism, and which routinely slaughters its minority populations and/or harbors (a la Modi) those state officials who do.</p> Hurray! Nothing like giving nuclear technology (much of which will not be monitored) to a nation that refuses to sign the NPT, has close foreign relations with Iran and Russia, has seven states with laws outlawing conversion to any religion but Hinduism, and which routinely slaughters its minority populations and/or harbors (a la Modi) those state officials who do.

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By: Dr AmNonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/28/dnc_day_3_the_s/comment-page-1/#comment-214035 Dr AmNonymous Sun, 31 Aug 2008 21:31:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5378#comment-214035 <blockquote>Check the map of South Asia and find a country which is a democracy, secular, multilingual, multiethnic and a stable nation state.</blockquote> <p>If you find one, let me know ;) Unless you're trying to describe the one that can't send its army to 15-20% of its territory because its controlled by Maoists or other rebels, the one that has two major parties both of whom are implicated in communal pogroms in the last 25 years, and the one that is about to enter a period of major upheaval whose outcome is anything but certain.</p> <p>Would recommend <a href="http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=GNJHlFTPBT0C&dq=jalal+authoritarianism&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=qYhcsL3ulL&sig=Q8qrYOMEl7y3pbYUIzar8NjT5qA&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result">to people actually seriously interested in these issues Ayesha Jalal's Democracy and Authoritarianism in Comparative Context</a> to understand the similarities and differences among India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.</p> Check the map of South Asia and find a country which is a democracy, secular, multilingual, multiethnic and a stable nation state.

If you find one, let me know ;) Unless you’re trying to describe the one that can’t send its army to 15-20% of its territory because its controlled by Maoists or other rebels, the one that has two major parties both of whom are implicated in communal pogroms in the last 25 years, and the one that is about to enter a period of major upheaval whose outcome is anything but certain.

Would recommend to people actually seriously interested in these issues Ayesha Jalal’s Democracy and Authoritarianism in Comparative Context to understand the similarities and differences among India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.

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By: Sulabh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/28/dnc_day_3_the_s/comment-page-1/#comment-213973 Sulabh Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:25:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5378#comment-213973 <p><i>22 · <B>Vicy Cristina Barcelona</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005378.html#comment213841">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>But comments above do raise an interesting question as to what exactly are the unique policy issues that affects Indian-Americans if ethniticy/race based categorization is the basis for getting political support from any party ? Neverthless why should Indian issues matter so much for Indian-Americans voting in American elections ? And even if Indian/South-Asian issues do come into the discussion then what are the unique policy issues relevant to Indian-Americans ? </blockquote> <p>If Indian-Americans consider themselves Americans then it is natural that they should enthusiastically support policies that lead to stronger ties between USA and India. This is a list of a few things where America can benefit from with stronger ties with India.</p> <p>o India is one of the few countries where America enjoys a favorable image, this in spite of strong American support for Pakistan and its military. o India is a growing economy and potential market for American goods. o India is a sovereign democratic republic that has cultivated good relations with countries which current American administration deems 'rogue' - like Iran. USA can learn a lot from India on how to manage these relations better.<br /> o From the military perspective India one of the largest military - Indians soldiers have been deployed all over the world as UN peace keepers. Americans can learn a LOT from Indian military on how to manage peace [ When American Marines were kicking arse in Ethiopia - right before the infamous 'back hawk down' episode, Indian Armed forces (apart from peace keeping) were providing vaccinations and general health care for civilians. ]</p> <p>Check the map of South Asia and find a country which is a democracy, secular, multilingual, multiethnic and a stable nation state.</p> 22 · Vicy Cristina Barcelona said

But comments above do raise an interesting question as to what exactly are the unique policy issues that affects Indian-Americans if ethniticy/race based categorization is the basis for getting political support from any party ? Neverthless why should Indian issues matter so much for Indian-Americans voting in American elections ? And even if Indian/South-Asian issues do come into the discussion then what are the unique policy issues relevant to Indian-Americans ?

If Indian-Americans consider themselves Americans then it is natural that they should enthusiastically support policies that lead to stronger ties between USA and India. This is a list of a few things where America can benefit from with stronger ties with India.

o India is one of the few countries where America enjoys a favorable image, this in spite of strong American support for Pakistan and its military. o India is a growing economy and potential market for American goods. o India is a sovereign democratic republic that has cultivated good relations with countries which current American administration deems ‘rogue’ – like Iran. USA can learn a lot from India on how to manage these relations better.
o From the military perspective India one of the largest military – Indians soldiers have been deployed all over the world as UN peace keepers. Americans can learn a LOT from Indian military on how to manage peace [ When American Marines were kicking arse in Ethiopia - right before the infamous 'back hawk down' episode, Indian Armed forces (apart from peace keeping) were providing vaccinations and general health care for civilians. ]

Check the map of South Asia and find a country which is a democracy, secular, multilingual, multiethnic and a stable nation state.

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By: Vicy Cristina Barcelona http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/28/dnc_day_3_the_s/comment-page-1/#comment-213841 Vicy Cristina Barcelona Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:19:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5378#comment-213841 <p>To the extent that normal Indians and Indian Americans don't care about the impending energy crisis in the normal day to day life, the US-India deal doesn't matter to either of those communities since there is enough of dirty coal, gasoline and natural gas to bing upon in the next 100 yrs for both countries. But comments above do raise an interesting question as to what exactly are the unique policy issues that affects Indian-Americans if ethniticy/race based categorization is the basis for getting political support from any party ? Neverthless why should Indian issues matter so much for Indian-Americans voting in American elections ? And even if Indian/South-Asian issues do come into the discussion then what are the unique policy issues relevant to Indian-Americans ?</p> To the extent that normal Indians and Indian Americans don’t care about the impending energy crisis in the normal day to day life, the US-India deal doesn’t matter to either of those communities since there is enough of dirty coal, gasoline and natural gas to bing upon in the next 100 yrs for both countries. But comments above do raise an interesting question as to what exactly are the unique policy issues that affects Indian-Americans if ethniticy/race based categorization is the basis for getting political support from any party ? Neverthless why should Indian issues matter so much for Indian-Americans voting in American elections ? And even if Indian/South-Asian issues do come into the discussion then what are the unique policy issues relevant to Indian-Americans ?

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By: Dr AmNonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/28/dnc_day_3_the_s/comment-page-1/#comment-213800 Dr AmNonymous Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:10:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5378#comment-213800 <blockquote>And to think my mommy blames herself for not being able to find me a legitimate wife--I'll pass this along so she feel less guilty! ;-)</blockquote> <p>wow! not to make too much light of it because i'm pretty familiar with the family/self conflict, but it's comments like these that make me wish i had formal training in therapy :)</p> And to think my mommy blames herself for not being able to find me a legitimate wife–I’ll pass this along so she feel less guilty! ;-)

wow! not to make too much light of it because i’m pretty familiar with the family/self conflict, but it’s comments like these that make me wish i had formal training in therapy :)

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By: sakshi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/28/dnc_day_3_the_s/comment-page-1/#comment-213799 sakshi Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:09:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5378#comment-213799 <blockquote>18 · sakshi said Its a bit much to ask that everyone who supports Obama should support him for exactly the reasons you have. And when did I ask for that? I was responding to a previous commenters (in my opinion, erroneous) assertion about "my" priorities as an ABD/Indian American. But I like your latent hostility, even if it's wholly undeserved.</blockquote> <p>Well yeah, you said DBDs were <i>obsessed</i> with it, and that pissed me off. I admit I should have read what you were responding to more carefully.</p> 18 · sakshi said Its a bit much to ask that everyone who supports Obama should support him for exactly the reasons you have. And when did I ask for that? I was responding to a previous commenters (in my opinion, erroneous) assertion about “my” priorities as an ABD/Indian American. But I like your latent hostility, even if it’s wholly undeserved.

Well yeah, you said DBDs were obsessed with it, and that pissed me off. I admit I should have read what you were responding to more carefully.

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By: CR http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/28/dnc_day_3_the_s/comment-page-1/#comment-213798 CR Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:01:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5378#comment-213798 <p><i>18 · <b>sakshi</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005378.html#comment213797">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Its a bit much to ask that everyone who supports Obama should support him for exactly the reasons you have.</blockquote> <p>And when did I ask for that? I was responding to a previous commenters (in my opinion, erroneous) assertion about "my" priorities as an ABD/Indian American. But I like your latent hostility, even if it's wholly undeserved.</p> 18 · sakshi said

Its a bit much to ask that everyone who supports Obama should support him for exactly the reasons you have.

And when did I ask for that? I was responding to a previous commenters (in my opinion, erroneous) assertion about “my” priorities as an ABD/Indian American. But I like your latent hostility, even if it’s wholly undeserved.

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By: sakshi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/28/dnc_day_3_the_s/comment-page-1/#comment-213797 sakshi Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:52:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5378#comment-213797 <blockquote>8 · Fidelis Bozo said I would love to prove to you that the Nuclear deal is more important for Indian - Americans, DBD and ABD, than health care and the Iraq war. The war The Economy The assault on reproductive freedom. I'm Indian American and THOSE are the issues I care about and are basing my vote on. I was born here. I was raised here. I'm going to die here. I love India and am thrilled at its victories and progress (I was scowling every time I heard someone say that India could never do what China did, with the olympics), but that doesn't mean that my affection for a country I have almost nothing to do with trumps my real, day-to-day concerns.</blockquote> <p>Well, <b>CR</b>, in that case you should be pleased that this guy is footing the bill for your candidate and party, in xchange of support for an issue you don't care so much about. He obviously likes democrats, and might even agree with all the issues you raise. Its a bit much to ask that everyone who supports Obama should support him for exactly the reasons you have. Whatever happened to bringing people together, reaching across the aisle, <i>wagerah, wagerah</i>.</p> 8 · Fidelis Bozo said I would love to prove to you that the Nuclear deal is more important for Indian – Americans, DBD and ABD, than health care and the Iraq war. The war The Economy The assault on reproductive freedom. I’m Indian American and THOSE are the issues I care about and are basing my vote on. I was born here. I was raised here. I’m going to die here. I love India and am thrilled at its victories and progress (I was scowling every time I heard someone say that India could never do what China did, with the olympics), but that doesn’t mean that my affection for a country I have almost nothing to do with trumps my real, day-to-day concerns.

Well, CR, in that case you should be pleased that this guy is footing the bill for your candidate and party, in xchange of support for an issue you don’t care so much about. He obviously likes democrats, and might even agree with all the issues you raise. Its a bit much to ask that everyone who supports Obama should support him for exactly the reasons you have. Whatever happened to bringing people together, reaching across the aisle, wagerah, wagerah.

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