Comments on: Marrying Anita: Review + Q&A with Anita Jain http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/06/marrying_anita/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Camille http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/06/marrying_anita/comment-page-2/#comment-211748 Camille Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:12:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5327#comment-211748 <blockquote><blockquote>(we already know that you guys aren't allowed to date or have sex before marriage)</blockquote> Our women aren't big on popping four crack babies before they turn 18 in order to claim welfare. Sorry to disappoint you.</blockquote> <p>One person's derogatory comments do not merit or justify racist comments towards yet another community. Please get yourself under control -- your statement is absolutely disgusting.</p>
(we already know that you guys aren’t allowed to date or have sex before marriage)
Our women aren’t big on popping four crack babies before they turn 18 in order to claim welfare. Sorry to disappoint you.

One person’s derogatory comments do not merit or justify racist comments towards yet another community. Please get yourself under control — your statement is absolutely disgusting.

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By: Dr AmNonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/06/marrying_anita/comment-page-2/#comment-211746 Dr AmNonymous Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:41:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5327#comment-211746 <blockquote>I would have the same comment for any New York women, ABD or not. Why should she be excluded?</blockquote> <p>because you're being a misogynyst ass when you think things like this, which is not really in your interests, much less anyone elses. it's probably worthwhile to think really hard about why you would think something like this and what impact it has on your relationships, particularly with women you actually care about or may one day care about.</p> <blockquote>94 · Johnny Valker on August 7, 2008 09:28 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?) 89 juhu said (we already know that you guys aren't allowed to date or have sex before marriage) Our women aren't big on popping four crack babies before they turn 18 in order to claim welfare. Sorry to disappoint you. We have plenty of sexual fun amongst ourselves (freely and openly) Not to mention non consensually And African women for sure do not want to sleep with Indian men. Are you talking about Africans or African-Americans? You claim you're the latter so I'm sure you'll agree that there are more than a few black women seeking Indian/Middle Eastern/Latino males. </blockquote> <p>Did the idiot truck explode nearby? From what depths of the soul do these thoughts come from?</p> I would have the same comment for any New York women, ABD or not. Why should she be excluded?

because you’re being a misogynyst ass when you think things like this, which is not really in your interests, much less anyone elses. it’s probably worthwhile to think really hard about why you would think something like this and what impact it has on your relationships, particularly with women you actually care about or may one day care about.

94 · Johnny Valker on August 7, 2008 09:28 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?) 89 juhu said (we already know that you guys aren’t allowed to date or have sex before marriage) Our women aren’t big on popping four crack babies before they turn 18 in order to claim welfare. Sorry to disappoint you. We have plenty of sexual fun amongst ourselves (freely and openly) Not to mention non consensually And African women for sure do not want to sleep with Indian men. Are you talking about Africans or African-Americans? You claim you’re the latter so I’m sure you’ll agree that there are more than a few black women seeking Indian/Middle Eastern/Latino males.

Did the idiot truck explode nearby? From what depths of the soul do these thoughts come from?

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By: Paging the SM interns!!! http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/06/marrying_anita/comment-page-2/#comment-211745 Paging the SM interns!!! Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:34:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5327#comment-211745 <p>exciting as the <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005316.html#comment211740">moderation</a> asking us not to name charlatans or the objects of their two-bit magic tricks on the other thread is, it would be really nice if somebody put a lid on the sexist and, now, <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005327.html#comment211743">disgustingly racist</a> (a la <a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200509280006">bill bennett</a>) comments on this thread.</p> <p>it is truly getting quite ugly in here...</p> exciting as the moderation asking us not to name charlatans or the objects of their two-bit magic tricks on the other thread is, it would be really nice if somebody put a lid on the sexist and, now, disgustingly racist (a la bill bennett) comments on this thread.

it is truly getting quite ugly in here…

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By: Dr AmNonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/06/marrying_anita/comment-page-2/#comment-211744 Dr AmNonymous Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:31:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5327#comment-211744 <blockquote>Dr. AmNonymous: I've found that the best writing on Dilli is by William Dalrymple. He knows the places intimately, his language is superb, and his friends, acquanitances and collaborators seem to be from all walks of society. Also, I recommend the The Brain Fever Bird, by I. Allan Sealy for impressionistic writing about the city. Unfortunately, something like Maximum City hasn't been attempted for Delhi (to the best of my knowledge).</blockquote> <p>I've heard this numerous times about Dalrymple but have always resisted for usual reasons of bias (his reporting from Pakistan for Tehelka was excellent though). I really enjoyed Khushwant Singh's book even if it is dated and by the accounts of some I talked to, skewed. Living in the city and reading a perspective from 20 years ago that goes alongside historical fiction was a trip. But I'm sure the best writing on Delhi is in Hindi. For those stuck to English, I personally enjoyed the Intach Guide for its rhetorical flourishes :) I'll check out the Sealy - when was it written? There's an essay by Emma Tarlo, an anthropologist, about forced evictions and sterilizations during the Emergency that I'm in the middle of reading which is a bit hard to read because it's very anthro self-reflexive but if you want to get a sense of what the inside of a government records office is like and how people have to go about doing things, it's a good start.</p> <p>Honestly, do your research and think very hard before you go to live in Delhi as an ABD. I was only living there a short while (less than a year), I have to say although it's a nice place to visit, it's a terrible place to live as an ABD. And think especially hard if you're a woman (which I'm not, which means talk to other women).</p> <p>Exceptions to the above are if you are male and one or more of the following: a) an architecture / history enthusiast; b) a bureaucrat; c) enjoy 6 months of blistering heat; d) interesting in social change / analysis / relations; e) a journalist needing a base near the government; f) like malls A LOT.</p> <p>Of course the counterpoint is that the city changes so rapidly that you might as well take in what's there before they destroy it all. In their desire to turn it into a "world-class city", they're pretty much f@#king it up - like building a mall in front of Jamma Masjid and turning Gurgaon into a 21st century dystopia (can't wait for those food riots). Fiddle, Manmohan, burns.</p> <p>It is an interesting place though :) Buy my book, sunshine!!!!</p> Dr. AmNonymous: I’ve found that the best writing on Dilli is by William Dalrymple. He knows the places intimately, his language is superb, and his friends, acquanitances and collaborators seem to be from all walks of society. Also, I recommend the The Brain Fever Bird, by I. Allan Sealy for impressionistic writing about the city. Unfortunately, something like Maximum City hasn’t been attempted for Delhi (to the best of my knowledge).

I’ve heard this numerous times about Dalrymple but have always resisted for usual reasons of bias (his reporting from Pakistan for Tehelka was excellent though). I really enjoyed Khushwant Singh’s book even if it is dated and by the accounts of some I talked to, skewed. Living in the city and reading a perspective from 20 years ago that goes alongside historical fiction was a trip. But I’m sure the best writing on Delhi is in Hindi. For those stuck to English, I personally enjoyed the Intach Guide for its rhetorical flourishes :) I’ll check out the Sealy – when was it written? There’s an essay by Emma Tarlo, an anthropologist, about forced evictions and sterilizations during the Emergency that I’m in the middle of reading which is a bit hard to read because it’s very anthro self-reflexive but if you want to get a sense of what the inside of a government records office is like and how people have to go about doing things, it’s a good start.

Honestly, do your research and think very hard before you go to live in Delhi as an ABD. I was only living there a short while (less than a year), I have to say although it’s a nice place to visit, it’s a terrible place to live as an ABD. And think especially hard if you’re a woman (which I’m not, which means talk to other women).

Exceptions to the above are if you are male and one or more of the following: a) an architecture / history enthusiast; b) a bureaucrat; c) enjoy 6 months of blistering heat; d) interesting in social change / analysis / relations; e) a journalist needing a base near the government; f) like malls A LOT.

Of course the counterpoint is that the city changes so rapidly that you might as well take in what’s there before they destroy it all. In their desire to turn it into a “world-class city”, they’re pretty much f@#king it up – like building a mall in front of Jamma Masjid and turning Gurgaon into a 21st century dystopia (can’t wait for those food riots). Fiddle, Manmohan, burns.

It is an interesting place though :) Buy my book, sunshine!!!!

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By: Dr AmNonymous http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/06/marrying_anita/comment-page-2/#comment-211741 Dr AmNonymous Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:11:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5327#comment-211741 <blockquote>Going by your comments, I would say you have a problem expressing yourself very well. Your thoughts are not coherent and you are not articluate. I don't think I will ever buy a book written by you.</blockquote> <p>That hurts my feelings! And it makes me wonder what it is that would lead you to write something like this to a total stranger. Anyway, <a href="http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:5pEsiKkUH4sJ:www.hbo.com/conchords/img/episode/lyrics_ep3_mugged.pdf+be+more+constructive&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2">There ain't no party like my nana's tea party</a> ;)</p> Going by your comments, I would say you have a problem expressing yourself very well. Your thoughts are not coherent and you are not articluate. I don’t think I will ever buy a book written by you.

That hurts my feelings! And it makes me wonder what it is that would lead you to write something like this to a total stranger. Anyway, There ain’t no party like my nana’s tea party ;)

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By: juhu http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/06/marrying_anita/comment-page-2/#comment-211737 juhu Fri, 08 Aug 2008 02:10:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5327#comment-211737 <p><i>91 · <b>louiecypher</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005327.html#comment211735">said</a></i></p> <blockquote> I think Juhu may be Prema. It looks like he/she/it may have evolved beyond calling people "delusional" to a more advanced form of trollery </blockquote> <p>I am new reader and new commentator to this blog. I found it by googling the name: Anita jain. No trollery here.</p> 91 · louiecypher said

I think Juhu may be Prema. It looks like he/she/it may have evolved beyond calling people “delusional” to a more advanced form of trollery

I am new reader and new commentator to this blog. I found it by googling the name: Anita jain. No trollery here.

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By: louiecypher http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/06/marrying_anita/comment-page-2/#comment-211735 louiecypher Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:47:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5327#comment-211735 <p>I think Juhu may be Prema. It looks like he/she/it may have evolved beyond calling people "delusional" to a more advanced form of trollery</p> I think Juhu may be Prema. It looks like he/she/it may have evolved beyond calling people “delusional” to a more advanced form of trollery

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By: Kamasutra http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/06/marrying_anita/comment-page-2/#comment-211733 Kamasutra Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:44:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5327#comment-211733 <p>Why are SM readers so getting worked up with Anita Jain's writings ? It is nothing but mental masturbation and book selling strategies masquerading as social commentary and camouflaged by groom hunting excercise :) But since it is fiction I would pardon her.</p> <blockquote>I can sympathize with how using a term like “broad-minded” might set off some alarms</blockquote> <p>Since most SM readers I suppose are looking for broadminded spouses ? Can anybody please define it for me ? Reading the post and comments above it appears broadminded= smoking, drinking, promiscuosity, pre-marital sexual history, independent, strong, vocal ,swinging, forward thinking, liberal and what ?</p> <p>All these fiction induced fantasies is good for dating. For marriage, first go and establish a career in the same place and then we can discuss about fantasies.</p> Why are SM readers so getting worked up with Anita Jain’s writings ? It is nothing but mental masturbation and book selling strategies masquerading as social commentary and camouflaged by groom hunting excercise :) But since it is fiction I would pardon her.

I can sympathize with how using a term like “broad-minded” might set off some alarms

Since most SM readers I suppose are looking for broadminded spouses ? Can anybody please define it for me ? Reading the post and comments above it appears broadminded= smoking, drinking, promiscuosity, pre-marital sexual history, independent, strong, vocal ,swinging, forward thinking, liberal and what ?

All these fiction induced fantasies is good for dating. For marriage, first go and establish a career in the same place and then we can discuss about fantasies.

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By: juhu http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/06/marrying_anita/comment-page-2/#comment-211732 juhu Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:40:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5327#comment-211732 <p>Camille:</p> <p>I never said idi amin was justified! I was trying to explain where Idi amins actions came from. They didn't come out of nowhere and actually, that may have been one of his only "policy" oriented moves that enjoyed popular support.</p> <p>And no, Amitabh, africans don't just want to sleep with Indian women (we already know that you guys aren't allowed to date or have sex before marriage) and we also know about your strict arranged marriage culture. We have plenty of sexual fun amongst ourselves (freely and openly). And African women for sure do not want to sleep with Indian men. In fact, if I ever saw two young indians kissing on the streets of Nairobi, I'd be stunned.</p> Camille:

I never said idi amin was justified! I was trying to explain where Idi amins actions came from. They didn’t come out of nowhere and actually, that may have been one of his only “policy” oriented moves that enjoyed popular support.

And no, Amitabh, africans don’t just want to sleep with Indian women (we already know that you guys aren’t allowed to date or have sex before marriage) and we also know about your strict arranged marriage culture. We have plenty of sexual fun amongst ourselves (freely and openly). And African women for sure do not want to sleep with Indian men. In fact, if I ever saw two young indians kissing on the streets of Nairobi, I’d be stunned.

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By: alright the name calling begins http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/08/06/marrying_anita/comment-page-2/#comment-211730 alright the name calling begins Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:19:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5327#comment-211730 <p><i>85 · <b>DesiInNJ</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005327.html#comment211726">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>I would have the same comment for any New York women, ABD or not. Why should she be excluded?</blockquote> <p>as i said, slut-playa.</p> 85 · DesiInNJ said

I would have the same comment for any New York women, ABD or not. Why should she be excluded?

as i said, slut-playa.

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