Comments on: Black July At 25 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/26/black_july_at_2/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Babu Bajrangi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/26/black_july_at_2/comment-page-3/#comment-211147 Babu Bajrangi Tue, 05 Aug 2008 04:10:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5305#comment-211147 <p><i>110 · <b>NYC Chatwala</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005305.html#comment211140">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Do you have any evidence that the VHP has committed terrorist attacks or are you buying into Congress propaganda</blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfnTl_Fwvbo">Babu</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bajrang_Dal#Controversies">Bajrangi</a></p> 110 · NYC Chatwala said

Do you have any evidence that the VHP has committed terrorist attacks or are you buying into Congress propaganda

Babu Bajrangi

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By: crane http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/26/black_july_at_2/comment-page-3/#comment-211142 crane Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:48:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5305#comment-211142 <p>Why is that surprising? The LTTE isn't a hindu org, it's always had plenty of christian/catholic members. This isn't a religious conflict!</p> Why is that surprising? The LTTE isn’t a hindu org, it’s always had plenty of christian/catholic members. This isn’t a religious conflict!

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By: NYC Chatwala http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/26/black_july_at_2/comment-page-3/#comment-211140 NYC Chatwala Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:36:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5305#comment-211140 <p><i>1 · <b>No guesses</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005305.html#comment210140">said</a></i></p> <blockquote> (Not to mention their brothers-in-butchery, terrorists everywhere, Islamic, Irish, Israeli, & the VHP). Who are the worst:a) the perps?b) the politicians (behind Colombo/Godhra/WestBank)?c) the "diaspora" (i.e. the lucky few who fled to Staten Island, Missisauga, etc) and pump money and, dare I say, hatred, into the coffers of the Tigers?d) all of the above? </blockquote> <p>Do you have any evidence that the VHP has committed terrorist attacks or are you buying into Congress propaganda? The LTTE folks, on occasion, congregate at the Hindu temple in Staten Island (surprisingly there's a sizable Tamil Christian population contributing to their nonsense).</p> 1 · No guesses said

(Not to mention their brothers-in-butchery, terrorists everywhere, Islamic, Irish, Israeli, & the VHP). Who are the worst:a) the perps?b) the politicians (behind Colombo/Godhra/WestBank)?c) the “diaspora” (i.e. the lucky few who fled to Staten Island, Missisauga, etc) and pump money and, dare I say, hatred, into the coffers of the Tigers?d) all of the above?

Do you have any evidence that the VHP has committed terrorist attacks or are you buying into Congress propaganda? The LTTE folks, on occasion, congregate at the Hindu temple in Staten Island (surprisingly there’s a sizable Tamil Christian population contributing to their nonsense).

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By: Nayagan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/26/black_july_at_2/comment-page-3/#comment-211003 Nayagan Mon, 04 Aug 2008 19:28:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5305#comment-211003 <p><i>105 · <b>AVIAF</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005305.html#comment210419">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Nayagan: I work in Sri Lanka, including in the Northeast. Do/Have you? Not everyone here has abandoned ship.</blockquote> <p>are you asking the polite question are are you asking whether i "jumped ship" ?(hard as it would be to make a conscious decision about my location, given the fact I was surrounded by womb).</p> 105 · AVIAF said

Nayagan: I work in Sri Lanka, including in the Northeast. Do/Have you? Not everyone here has abandoned ship.

are you asking the polite question are are you asking whether i “jumped ship” ?(hard as it would be to make a conscious decision about my location, given the fact I was surrounded by womb).

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By: melbourne desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/26/black_july_at_2/comment-page-3/#comment-210431 melbourne desi Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:47:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5305#comment-210431 <blockquote>No country is particularly interested in chronicling its failures in classroom</blockquote> <p>Australia - Gallipoli. Commemoration of our greatest defeat. ANZAC day etc. Must be the only country around that celebrates a loss rather than a victory</p> No country is particularly interested in chronicling its failures in classroom

Australia – Gallipoli. Commemoration of our greatest defeat. ANZAC day etc. Must be the only country around that celebrates a loss rather than a victory

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By: crane http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/26/black_july_at_2/comment-page-3/#comment-210429 crane Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:40:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5305#comment-210429 <p>'Abandon ship' might be a bit pejorative, but many of us have moved on, with a part of us still maintaining some attachment, but that's all. I don't think too many members of the diaspora (myself included) would move back, even if things were peaceful again. Too much time, too much change. Respect for staying/returning and trying to make things better, anyway.</p> <p>If nothing else, I think time will solve this. I don't think it's the younger generation perpetuating this conflict. When the old die, they can take their conflict with them.</p> ‘Abandon ship’ might be a bit pejorative, but many of us have moved on, with a part of us still maintaining some attachment, but that’s all. I don’t think too many members of the diaspora (myself included) would move back, even if things were peaceful again. Too much time, too much change. Respect for staying/returning and trying to make things better, anyway.

If nothing else, I think time will solve this. I don’t think it’s the younger generation perpetuating this conflict. When the old die, they can take their conflict with them.

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By: V.V. Ganeshananthan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/26/black_july_at_2/comment-page-3/#comment-210428 V.V. Ganeshananthan Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:01:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5305#comment-210428 <p>AVIAF,</p> <p>When you refer to "abandoning ship," are you talking about people who emigrated? (If not, what do you mean?) If so, that seems awfully harsh, considering what some of those people went through. I'm not saying those who have stayed haven't been through anything—they obviously have—but I don't know that those who left can be so easily and generally dismissed. And unless I much misunderstand you, it's not the leaving you're objecting to here—it's what happens after, how the diaspora addresses the war. I think you raise some good points there about responsibility. Anyway, your comments are greatly appreciated.</p> <p>Sincere thanks also to Nayagan, Preston, kettikili, pro mixalot, sahasamvada, ak, pedagogy and demagogy... and the others I must be missing at this thread grows ever longer (!).</p> <p>Chandare, I will read the study to which you refer, but I must agree with AVIAF re: NGOs and Nayagan re: the call for a candid TV interview.</p> AVIAF,

When you refer to “abandoning ship,” are you talking about people who emigrated? (If not, what do you mean?) If so, that seems awfully harsh, considering what some of those people went through. I’m not saying those who have stayed haven’t been through anything—they obviously have—but I don’t know that those who left can be so easily and generally dismissed. And unless I much misunderstand you, it’s not the leaving you’re objecting to here—it’s what happens after, how the diaspora addresses the war. I think you raise some good points there about responsibility. Anyway, your comments are greatly appreciated.

Sincere thanks also to Nayagan, Preston, kettikili, pro mixalot, sahasamvada, ak, pedagogy and demagogy… and the others I must be missing at this thread grows ever longer (!).

Chandare, I will read the study to which you refer, but I must agree with AVIAF re: NGOs and Nayagan re: the call for a candid TV interview.

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By: AVIAF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/26/black_july_at_2/comment-page-3/#comment-210419 AVIAF Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:03:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5305#comment-210419 <p>Crane: I am not saying that the diaspora should get over it, or forget it, or any of that. A particularly appalling fact is that no one, not a single person, has been brought to justice because of that. I just think that the diaspora (diasporic organizations), on too many occasions, exploits these incidents in order to fuel the current conflict instead of productively working on humanitarian interventions, human rights abuses etc. And if you read any of this, or anything I have said so far, as a defense of the current government, then as V.V. says, things need to be carefully read too.</p> <p>Nayagan: I work in Sri Lanka, including in the Northeast. Do/Have you? Not everyone here has abandoned ship.</p> <p>chandare: What NGO, except for Sarvodaya, is not seen as pro-LTTE by Sinhala hardliners? Even UNICEF has been charged of that same crime. CPA is an independent think tank that has on occasion produced good work.</p> <p>V.V.: Your post is appreciated.</p> Crane: I am not saying that the diaspora should get over it, or forget it, or any of that. A particularly appalling fact is that no one, not a single person, has been brought to justice because of that. I just think that the diaspora (diasporic organizations), on too many occasions, exploits these incidents in order to fuel the current conflict instead of productively working on humanitarian interventions, human rights abuses etc. And if you read any of this, or anything I have said so far, as a defense of the current government, then as V.V. says, things need to be carefully read too.

Nayagan: I work in Sri Lanka, including in the Northeast. Do/Have you? Not everyone here has abandoned ship.

chandare: What NGO, except for Sarvodaya, is not seen as pro-LTTE by Sinhala hardliners? Even UNICEF has been charged of that same crime. CPA is an independent think tank that has on occasion produced good work.

V.V.: Your post is appreciated.

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By: chandare http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/26/black_july_at_2/comment-page-3/#comment-210358 chandare Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:12:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5305#comment-210358 <p>Nayagan, You want to know how the oridinary hambantota guy .Read the study. You will find that on most of the issues Sinhala ,Muslim and Tamil people are not that far off.This was done in 2007 but I think they have something more recent.This study comes from a NGO which is seen as pro-LTTE by Sinhala hardliners.</p> Nayagan, You want to know how the oridinary hambantota guy .Read the study. You will find that on most of the issues Sinhala ,Muslim and Tamil people are not that far off.This was done in 2007 but I think they have something more recent.This study comes from a NGO which is seen as pro-LTTE by Sinhala hardliners.

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By: chandare http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/26/black_july_at_2/comment-page-3/#comment-210357 chandare Tue, 29 Jul 2008 21:02:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5305#comment-210357 <p>Nayagan wrote</p> <blockquote>meant what I wrote. "candid" and "on the ground" means TV (without the fear of Mahinda machan's henchmen questioning them after the fact). But since you live with the ugly people who had to abandon their home country due to their good salt-of-the-earth neighbors who thought it a great idea to get drunk, caress them with machetes and invite themselves in for a spot of gasoline and matches, i guess your ability to read and comprehend has tragically gone for a six.</blockquote> <p>On the other hand Including "machan " in a sentence and saying "gone for a six" makes you an expert on Sinhalese or Sri Lankans !</p> Nayagan wrote

meant what I wrote. “candid” and “on the ground” means TV (without the fear of Mahinda machan’s henchmen questioning them after the fact). But since you live with the ugly people who had to abandon their home country due to their good salt-of-the-earth neighbors who thought it a great idea to get drunk, caress them with machetes and invite themselves in for a spot of gasoline and matches, i guess your ability to read and comprehend has tragically gone for a six.

On the other hand Including “machan ” in a sentence and saying “gone for a six” makes you an expert on Sinhalese or Sri Lankans !

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