Comments on: Sabhnanis sentenced http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/sabhnanis_sente/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: working indian woman http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/sabhnanis_sente/comment-page-4/#comment-208175 working indian woman Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:04:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5271#comment-208175 <p><i>174 · <b>TheBrownChamp</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005271.html#comment207883">said</a></i></p> <blockquote><blockquote> Went to college in the US and teach there regularly</blockquote> Babygirl, I'm 22 and have lived/studied in US, Europe and India. I have a more global perspective than you or any "educated" Indian in India may have... <b>Dont know re my global persp: i am 54, went to undergrad in the US during the summer of love, the gay movement, anti war declarations etc. so yes, I am limited to whatever experiences i had. lived in Moscow, Cairo etc. but no, I cannot know everything even remotely. agreed</b>. <blockquote>Most whites I know never say anything non PC, they simply do it. </blockquote> American whites...European whites...Canadian whites....which white group are you talking about?! <b>N Amer white folk, fellow profs, students, lovers, i have known over the last approx 40 yrs. A bit like US foreign policy! Say the right thing but do what is racist or selfish. </b> <blockquote> I see more black men marrying white girls.</blockquote> Interracial dating/marriages happens in the states, canada, europe, the west. Black men marrying white girls, along with white men marrying asian women are the prolly the two most common interracial relationships depicted in the american media. <b>I feel black men marry white girls. the other way is less common. In Kenya, many white men have black wives, here there seems to be a racial taboo or a refusal to be associated with the slave background.</b> Barack Obama is the most famous black man in Amreeka and he's married to a black woman aka 'ghettofied sistah' Michelle Obama. Did not really understand the context. But then I am over half a century old and Indian besides. This possibly disqualifies me to communicate to a lot of folk here who hate their brown coloring, their parents and their parents' country of origin. You're dumb. Stop acting like you have a global perspective </blockquote> <p>May be. I just wonder why so many of you, with good knowledge and good info seem bent on discussing that which can be interpreted as bad about India, Indians and Hindus in particular. Jews do not do that, but then they are known for their intelligence and in helping their community first.</p> 174 · TheBrownChamp said

Went to college in the US and teach there regularly
Babygirl, I’m 22 and have lived/studied in US, Europe and India. I have a more global perspective than you or any “educated” Indian in India may have… Dont know re my global persp: i am 54, went to undergrad in the US during the summer of love, the gay movement, anti war declarations etc. so yes, I am limited to whatever experiences i had. lived in Moscow, Cairo etc. but no, I cannot know everything even remotely. agreed.
Most whites I know never say anything non PC, they simply do it.
American whites…European whites…Canadian whites….which white group are you talking about?! N Amer white folk, fellow profs, students, lovers, i have known over the last approx 40 yrs. A bit like US foreign policy! Say the right thing but do what is racist or selfish.
I see more black men marrying white girls.
Interracial dating/marriages happens in the states, canada, europe, the west. Black men marrying white girls, along with white men marrying asian women are the prolly the two most common interracial relationships depicted in the american media. I feel black men marry white girls. the other way is less common. In Kenya, many white men have black wives, here there seems to be a racial taboo or a refusal to be associated with the slave background. Barack Obama is the most famous black man in Amreeka and he’s married to a black woman aka ‘ghettofied sistah’ Michelle Obama. Did not really understand the context. But then I am over half a century old and Indian besides. This possibly disqualifies me to communicate to a lot of folk here who hate their brown coloring, their parents and their parents’ country of origin. You’re dumb. Stop acting like you have a global perspective

May be. I just wonder why so many of you, with good knowledge and good info seem bent on discussing that which can be interpreted as bad about India, Indians and Hindus in particular. Jews do not do that, but then they are known for their intelligence and in helping their community first.

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By: amalan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/sabhnanis_sente/comment-page-4/#comment-208081 amalan Wed, 09 Jul 2008 06:57:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5271#comment-208081 <p>Ennis,</p> <p>I take it you grow up in America. I have been here presumably much less than you then.</p> <p>In my time here, I have watched numerous times in TV where some serial killer or shooter or child rapist is caught with proof other than the victims word, and the neighbours and friends go 'he was such a kind soul, always good with the kids/volunteering for the community/never bothered anyone etc etc.'</p> <p>That is how real americans (not immigrants from India ) talk when they hear that people whom they know got caught in something like this.</p> <p>In India, if you do not know, most crimes are committed with a motive, usually money. Otherwise it is passion or anger or lust. In india there's also the concept of a good reputation, ties to the society, etc, all similar to the old British concept of gentleman with some standing in the society. That sort of acts in your favour if you are accused of anything. However, these days that too is not of much help, given the number of sex racket cases happening over there.</p> Ennis,

I take it you grow up in America. I have been here presumably much less than you then.

In my time here, I have watched numerous times in TV where some serial killer or shooter or child rapist is caught with proof other than the victims word, and the neighbours and friends go ‘he was such a kind soul, always good with the kids/volunteering for the community/never bothered anyone etc etc.’

That is how real americans (not immigrants from India ) talk when they hear that people whom they know got caught in something like this.

In India, if you do not know, most crimes are committed with a motive, usually money. Otherwise it is passion or anger or lust. In india there’s also the concept of a good reputation, ties to the society, etc, all similar to the old British concept of gentleman with some standing in the society. That sort of acts in your favour if you are accused of anything. However, these days that too is not of much help, given the number of sex racket cases happening over there.

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By: Col. Kartoos http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/sabhnanis_sente/comment-page-4/#comment-208015 Col. Kartoos Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:47:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5271#comment-208015 <blockquote>People who talk about not needing maid etc in India absolutely miss the point how important it is as an employment especially for the women who opts for it. It empowers them not to depend on their drunk and abusive husbands.</blockquote> <p>I am glad <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005271.html#comment207693">we</a> have our own homegrown civilizing movement for the noble savages in our midst, now that British imperialism no longer does it for us.</p> People who talk about not needing maid etc in India absolutely miss the point how important it is as an employment especially for the women who opts for it. It empowers them not to depend on their drunk and abusive husbands.

I am glad we have our own homegrown civilizing movement for the noble savages in our midst, now that British imperialism no longer does it for us.

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By: portmanteau http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/sabhnanis_sente/comment-page-4/#comment-208011 portmanteau Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:33:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5271#comment-208011 <p><i>132 · <b>zuni</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005271.html#comment207691">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>It empowers them not to depend on their drunk and abusive husbands.</blockquote> <p>stop caricaturing every maid and her family. not every maid has a drunken, abusive husband like in bad TV soaps and movies. meanwhile, note there are other ways women could be empowered than being housemaids. i agree that domestic service is a valuable economic opportunity for many people (eg in many countries it is not considered demeaning for students and those wanting part-time flexible gigs to perform housework. the same is not true of india -- domestic work is associated with servility and social inferiority). it is, however, a sad thing that often the <i>only</i> vocational choice available to poor women in india have is to perform low-paid work in the unorganized sector.</p> 132 · zuni said

It empowers them not to depend on their drunk and abusive husbands.

stop caricaturing every maid and her family. not every maid has a drunken, abusive husband like in bad TV soaps and movies. meanwhile, note there are other ways women could be empowered than being housemaids. i agree that domestic service is a valuable economic opportunity for many people (eg in many countries it is not considered demeaning for students and those wanting part-time flexible gigs to perform housework. the same is not true of india — domestic work is associated with servility and social inferiority). it is, however, a sad thing that often the only vocational choice available to poor women in india have is to perform low-paid work in the unorganized sector.

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By: Amitabh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/sabhnanis_sente/comment-page-4/#comment-207914 Amitabh Tue, 08 Jul 2008 16:24:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5271#comment-207914 <blockquote>My oh my....yes, you've really proved how much global perspective you really have by telling someone actually making valid points to shut up.</blockquote> <p>Not only that but the 22 year old punk had the gall to call a significantly older woman 'babygirl' over and over as if that rude condescension helped his point in anyway.</p> My oh my….yes, you’ve really proved how much global perspective you really have by telling someone actually making valid points to shut up.

Not only that but the 22 year old punk had the gall to call a significantly older woman ‘babygirl’ over and over as if that rude condescension helped his point in anyway.

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By: Opinionated http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/sabhnanis_sente/comment-page-4/#comment-207911 Opinionated Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:25:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5271#comment-207911 <p>TheBrownChamp,</p> <p>My oh my....yes, you've really proved how much global perspective you really have by telling someone actually making valid points to shut up. And what makes you think that, to quote you, "...have lived/studied in US, Europe and India. I have a more global perspective than you or any "educated" Indian in India may have..."???</p> <p>That right there is the problem with many Indians born/raised/living a long time, in the U.S. We seem to think that nobody could possibly be more alert & aware of the global situation than us, no matter what the topic of discussion may be. Is it so damn hard to actually think that others in the world might be just as aware or even more perceptive than us about things?</p> TheBrownChamp,

My oh my….yes, you’ve really proved how much global perspective you really have by telling someone actually making valid points to shut up. And what makes you think that, to quote you, “…have lived/studied in US, Europe and India. I have a more global perspective than you or any “educated” Indian in India may have…”???

That right there is the problem with many Indians born/raised/living a long time, in the U.S. We seem to think that nobody could possibly be more alert & aware of the global situation than us, no matter what the topic of discussion may be. Is it so damn hard to actually think that others in the world might be just as aware or even more perceptive than us about things?

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By: seeingreason http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/sabhnanis_sente/comment-page-4/#comment-207899 seeingreason Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:22:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5271#comment-207899 <p>Doesn't Bin Laden too come from a prestigious and wealthy family? He has a civil engineering degree too, for the records..... Is it either necessary or sufficient for a person to come from a good, wealthy family or be educated to desist from behaving atrociously.......</p> Doesn’t Bin Laden too come from a prestigious and wealthy family? He has a civil engineering degree too, for the records….. Is it either necessary or sufficient for a person to come from a good, wealthy family or be educated to desist from behaving atrociously…….

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By: seeingreason http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/sabhnanis_sente/comment-page-4/#comment-207898 seeingreason Tue, 08 Jul 2008 08:21:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5271#comment-207898 <p>Doesn't Bin Laden too come from a prestigious and wealthy family? He's has a civil engineering degree too, for the records..... Is it either necessary or sufficient for a person to come from a good, wealthy family or be educated to desist from behaving atrociously.......</p> Doesn’t Bin Laden too come from a prestigious and wealthy family? He’s has a civil engineering degree too, for the records….. Is it either necessary or sufficient for a person to come from a good, wealthy family or be educated to desist from behaving atrociously…….

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By: TheBrownChampion http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/sabhnanis_sente/comment-page-4/#comment-207889 TheBrownChampion Tue, 08 Jul 2008 05:30:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5271#comment-207889 <blockquote>You're dumb. Stop acting like you have a global perspective</blockquote> <p>I feel bad about this comment. Sorry Working Indian woman. Have a nice day.</p> <p>Bye.</p> You’re dumb. Stop acting like you have a global perspective

I feel bad about this comment. Sorry Working Indian woman. Have a nice day.

Bye.

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By: TheBrownChamp http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/sabhnanis_sente/comment-page-4/#comment-207883 TheBrownChamp Tue, 08 Jul 2008 03:55:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5271#comment-207883 <blockquote> Went to college in the US and teach there regularly</blockquote> <p>Babygirl, I'm 22 and have lived/studied in US, Europe and India. I have a more global perspective than you or any "educated" Indian in India may have...</p> <blockquote>Most whites I know never say anything non PC, they simply do it. </blockquote> <p>American whites...European whites...Canadian whites....which white group are you talking about?!</p> <blockquote> I see more black men marrying white girls.</blockquote> <p>Interracial dating/marriages happens in the states, canada, europe, the west. Black men marrying white girls, along with white men marrying asian women are the prolly the two most common interracial relationships depicted in the american media.</p> <p>Barack Obama is the most famous black man in Amreeka and he's married to a black woman aka 'ghettofied sistah' Michelle Obama.</p> <p>You're dumb. Stop acting like you have a global perspective</p> Went to college in the US and teach there regularly

Babygirl, I’m 22 and have lived/studied in US, Europe and India. I have a more global perspective than you or any “educated” Indian in India may have…

Most whites I know never say anything non PC, they simply do it.

American whites…European whites…Canadian whites….which white group are you talking about?!

I see more black men marrying white girls.

Interracial dating/marriages happens in the states, canada, europe, the west. Black men marrying white girls, along with white men marrying asian women are the prolly the two most common interracial relationships depicted in the american media.

Barack Obama is the most famous black man in Amreeka and he’s married to a black woman aka ‘ghettofied sistah’ Michelle Obama.

You’re dumb. Stop acting like you have a global perspective

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