Comments on: Just some kids http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/just_some_kids/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: NYC Chatwala http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/just_some_kids/comment-page-2/#comment-208479 NYC Chatwala Fri, 11 Jul 2008 04:30:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5270#comment-208479 <p><i>68 · <B>Middle name Husein</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005270.html#comment207667">said</a></i></p> <blockquote><BLOCKQUOTE>I've lost count of the number of people (all races and ethnicities, desis included) who have thought I was Muslim just because I was brown and bearded.</BLOCKQUOTE> I was born Hindu, am not religious in the least, and recently grew a fairly lush beard, mostly out of persistent inaction on the shaving front. I got a bit irritated, and turned back and yelled "I am Muslim! Don't ever dare call me an infidel again!" That got him right nervous, and he apologized profusely before walking away as fast as he could. </blockquote> <p>Wait so are you Hindu or Muslim? They were calling you Hindu and you replied "don't ever dare call me an infidel again". Don't you think it's a bit hypocritical of you to complain about the racist remarks they yelled out? Again, I couldn't quite get what religion you are from your post.</p> 68 · Middle name Husein said

I’ve lost count of the number of people (all races and ethnicities, desis included) who have thought I was Muslim just because I was brown and bearded.
I was born Hindu, am not religious in the least, and recently grew a fairly lush beard, mostly out of persistent inaction on the shaving front. I got a bit irritated, and turned back and yelled “I am Muslim! Don’t ever dare call me an infidel again!” That got him right nervous, and he apologized profusely before walking away as fast as he could.

Wait so are you Hindu or Muslim? They were calling you Hindu and you replied “don’t ever dare call me an infidel again”. Don’t you think it’s a bit hypocritical of you to complain about the racist remarks they yelled out? Again, I couldn’t quite get what religion you are from your post.

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By: sim http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/just_some_kids/comment-page-2/#comment-208087 sim Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:48:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5270#comment-208087 <p>oh, and as you're aware of how docility doesn't really do much against bullies (even when they're 6 years old, which is fucking hysterical in it's own right) stick a broom stick in the kid's bike spokes as he rides by. i doubt he'll speak again.</p> oh, and as you’re aware of how docility doesn’t really do much against bullies (even when they’re 6 years old, which is fucking hysterical in it’s own right) stick a broom stick in the kid’s bike spokes as he rides by. i doubt he’ll speak again.

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By: sim http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/just_some_kids/comment-page-2/#comment-208086 sim Wed, 09 Jul 2008 08:45:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5270#comment-208086 <blockquote>3. the desis be all gandhis and sit quietly and accept everything</blockquote> <p>haha. that's funny.</p> 3. the desis be all gandhis and sit quietly and accept everything

haha. that’s funny.

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By: amalan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/just_some_kids/comment-page-2/#comment-208084 amalan Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:38:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5270#comment-208084 <p>oh btw there's also a black kid in our neighbourhood, maybe 5-6 years old, who stops his bike around desis walking in the evening, and shouts doofus, turbanhead etc. His favourite targets are desi parents. Did i tell you that this is an 80% desi community?</p> <p>Desis have been long 'thinking about' telling his mom, but none have worked up the courage to face the 6 foot 200lb black elephant yet. Some of them comfort themselves by thinking that it was their new rayban glasses that made the kid say such things (as if the kid cares). Next they will say it was their shiny new iphone that made the kid say such things.</p> oh btw there’s also a black kid in our neighbourhood, maybe 5-6 years old, who stops his bike around desis walking in the evening, and shouts doofus, turbanhead etc. His favourite targets are desi parents. Did i tell you that this is an 80% desi community?

Desis have been long ‘thinking about’ telling his mom, but none have worked up the courage to face the 6 foot 200lb black elephant yet. Some of them comfort themselves by thinking that it was their new rayban glasses that made the kid say such things (as if the kid cares). Next they will say it was their shiny new iphone that made the kid say such things.

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By: amalan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/just_some_kids/comment-page-2/#comment-208083 amalan Wed, 09 Jul 2008 07:26:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5270#comment-208083 <p>"That was the end of the incident. It wasn’t a hate crime, I didn’t feel threatened or menaced, nothing really bad happened. It was just some high-spirited teenagers out for some racist fun. "</p> <p>Good. That's one way to justify it. Afterall, is there another place for you to call home? Where will you go if you don't like it? Good to see that you are coping and trying to belong in the only place where you feel you belong.</p> <p>It is nice to see so many guys actually agreeing that there is racism in america. I clearly remember a while back some guy wrote in lots of detail how he was told by several people on 9/12 in several midwest bars ' make no mistake, you are welcome here, you are one of us, we like your brown color' etc etc. in response to some posts which referred to some racism in NYC.</p> <p>Heck, I live in a condo complex which is 80% desi, and the goras being only 1 or 2 in number. Rest is kallu (yeah I am using the non PC terms if you need a noose to hang me). Even in this complex, during membership meetings, there is a tendency for 1. the lone gora to speak as if he owns the place 2. the kallus to shout at the desis 3. the desis be all gandhis and sit quietly and accept everything, and later among themselves say 'let's be quiet, afterall when elephants walk dogs will bark' etc etc 4. the shouting kallus and ruler gora always gets there way as desis are afraid to speak and thos who do speak cannot even express themselves clearly 5. the desis to later say 'let's agree to the gora, afterall we live in their country'.</p> <p>So trust me, gora racism and desi cowardice is not going to go away anytime soon. Desis will also find some way to justify it all.</p> “That was the end of the incident. It wasn’t a hate crime, I didn’t feel threatened or menaced, nothing really bad happened. It was just some high-spirited teenagers out for some racist fun. “

Good. That’s one way to justify it. Afterall, is there another place for you to call home? Where will you go if you don’t like it? Good to see that you are coping and trying to belong in the only place where you feel you belong.

It is nice to see so many guys actually agreeing that there is racism in america. I clearly remember a while back some guy wrote in lots of detail how he was told by several people on 9/12 in several midwest bars ‘ make no mistake, you are welcome here, you are one of us, we like your brown color’ etc etc. in response to some posts which referred to some racism in NYC.

Heck, I live in a condo complex which is 80% desi, and the goras being only 1 or 2 in number. Rest is kallu (yeah I am using the non PC terms if you need a noose to hang me). Even in this complex, during membership meetings, there is a tendency for 1. the lone gora to speak as if he owns the place 2. the kallus to shout at the desis 3. the desis be all gandhis and sit quietly and accept everything, and later among themselves say ‘let’s be quiet, afterall when elephants walk dogs will bark’ etc etc 4. the shouting kallus and ruler gora always gets there way as desis are afraid to speak and thos who do speak cannot even express themselves clearly 5. the desis to later say ‘let’s agree to the gora, afterall we live in their country’.

So trust me, gora racism and desi cowardice is not going to go away anytime soon. Desis will also find some way to justify it all.

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By: NYC Chatwala http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/just_some_kids/comment-page-2/#comment-208040 NYC Chatwala Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:28:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5270#comment-208040 <p><i>76 · <b>Fuerza Dulce</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005270.html#comment207984">said</a></i></p> <blockquote> For my Sikh *and* Muslim brothers: check out <a href="http://www.rootsgear.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=1&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1">this </a>shirt. </blockquote> <p>Many Sikhs have a distinct appearance but if that shirt applies to Muslims, wouldn't it also apply to any brown skinned, Middle Eastern looking person in general? They also have a Bhindransale shirt on the site lol.</p> 76 · Fuerza Dulce said

For my Sikh *and* Muslim brothers: check out this shirt.

Many Sikhs have a distinct appearance but if that shirt applies to Muslims, wouldn’t it also apply to any brown skinned, Middle Eastern looking person in general? They also have a Bhindransale shirt on the site lol.

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By: Fuerza Dulce http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/just_some_kids/comment-page-2/#comment-207984 Fuerza Dulce Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:21:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5270#comment-207984 <blockquote>Aren't Hare Krishnas clean-shaven and shaven-headed except for a small tuft? I think the drunk may have confused Hare Krishnas with the lesser known Hairy Krishnas.</blockquote> <p>Most of the people who shout at you in ignorance will tend to be REALLY ignorant. Last summer my brother (turbanned and bearded) was being harassed by these 3 drunk guys. No matter that there were 10 of us with him, they felt the need to bother him. They kept calling him 'dothead'. Because that made any sense. I was like "uhhh is this 1987?" He wasn't wearing a bindi, and isn't a Hindu woman, but whatever. When they finally saw that making fun of his turban bothered him, that's what they kept at.</p> <p>I had another wierd "dothead" incident. I was maybe 5 years old and the landlord's son was walking me home from school. Some guy pulls up in a car next to me and says "Is that dot a bullethole?" I wasn't wearing a bindi, wasn't speaking to anyone in any desi language, and I was FIVE. Even at 5 years old I thought the guy was a total idiot.</p> <hr /> <p>For my Sikh <em>and</em> Muslim brothers: check out <a href="http://www.rootsgear.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&category_id=1&flypage=shop.flypage&product_id=1&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=1">this </a>shirt.</p> Aren’t Hare Krishnas clean-shaven and shaven-headed except for a small tuft? I think the drunk may have confused Hare Krishnas with the lesser known Hairy Krishnas.

Most of the people who shout at you in ignorance will tend to be REALLY ignorant. Last summer my brother (turbanned and bearded) was being harassed by these 3 drunk guys. No matter that there were 10 of us with him, they felt the need to bother him. They kept calling him ‘dothead’. Because that made any sense. I was like “uhhh is this 1987?” He wasn’t wearing a bindi, and isn’t a Hindu woman, but whatever. When they finally saw that making fun of his turban bothered him, that’s what they kept at.

I had another wierd “dothead” incident. I was maybe 5 years old and the landlord’s son was walking me home from school. Some guy pulls up in a car next to me and says “Is that dot a bullethole?” I wasn’t wearing a bindi, wasn’t speaking to anyone in any desi language, and I was FIVE. Even at 5 years old I thought the guy was a total idiot.


For my Sikh and Muslim brothers: check out this shirt.

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By: kanchho http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/just_some_kids/comment-page-2/#comment-207884 kanchho Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:41:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5270#comment-207884 <p>Couple of weeks ago: I was waiting for the bus to uni: two kids (age 10-12)started hassling me, it started with racial epithets, when I ignored them, it got worse to the point when they started throwing things (leaves and papers) at me. I did nothing, I just stood it out. I still am not sure if i should have cussed, bashed or nipple twisted them little obnoxious weeds. I felt bad for the entire week though. Then, I went n bought maself a brand new Ford Focus Zetec:</p> Couple of weeks ago: I was waiting for the bus to uni: two kids (age 10-12)started hassling me, it started with racial epithets, when I ignored them, it got worse to the point when they started throwing things (leaves and papers) at me. I did nothing, I just stood it out. I still am not sure if i should have cussed, bashed or nipple twisted them little obnoxious weeds. I felt bad for the entire week though. Then, I went n bought maself a brand new Ford Focus Zetec:

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By: NYC Chatwala http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/just_some_kids/comment-page-2/#comment-207780 NYC Chatwala Mon, 07 Jul 2008 02:49:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5270#comment-207780 <p>Interesting. Just to throw in my two cents...I went to a 95% white school in New York City and a week after I began attending, 9/11 happened. Oh those were great times. I only went to that school because my parents wanted me to go "somewhere nice" (edit:majority white school lol). After that I attended a school in the "ghetto" and I def had a better time. I hung out with all types of folks, from the gangbangers to Yu-gi-oh fanatics. I was really surprised when black kids called me a dirty arab, bin Laden, and a whole shabdkosh worth of racial epithets. I always keep the baseball bat and machete handy because I'd love to see the day when the NYPD will do anything. However, my other desi friends prefer cricket bats.</p> Interesting. Just to throw in my two cents…I went to a 95% white school in New York City and a week after I began attending, 9/11 happened. Oh those were great times. I only went to that school because my parents wanted me to go “somewhere nice” (edit:majority white school lol). After that I attended a school in the “ghetto” and I def had a better time. I hung out with all types of folks, from the gangbangers to Yu-gi-oh fanatics. I was really surprised when black kids called me a dirty arab, bin Laden, and a whole shabdkosh worth of racial epithets. I always keep the baseball bat and machete handy because I’d love to see the day when the NYPD will do anything. However, my other desi friends prefer cricket bats.

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By: Orville http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/07/01/just_some_kids/comment-page-2/#comment-207777 Orville Mon, 07 Jul 2008 01:27:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5270#comment-207777 <p>Oh my goodness that's really scary I mean your home is supposed to be your sanctuary a place of privacy and freedom. I think it sucks that those teenagers were causing this kind of trouble. Is it possible to go to landlord of the building or something? Can anything be done?</p> Oh my goodness that’s really scary I mean your home is supposed to be your sanctuary a place of privacy and freedom. I think it sucks that those teenagers were causing this kind of trouble. Is it possible to go to landlord of the building or something? Can anything be done?

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