Comments on: Rushdie @ Google http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/06/10/rushdie_google/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Nals http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/06/10/rushdie_google/comment-page-1/#comment-205970 Nals Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:11:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5242#comment-205970 <p>I saw Rushdie read from "Enchantress" at the 92nd Street Y in New York some weeks ago, and can confirm that he is indeed "a demi-God of public speaking engagements" as well as a "master of spoken English." He held the audience captive.</p> <p>If you need further proof, seek out the Joseph Campbell PBS interview from last year. When Campbell asks him what he made of the controversial Danish cartoons satirizing Mohammed, Rushdie replies, without losing a beat, "Do you think God cares about a cartoon in a Danish newspaper?" Indeed.</p> <p>We desis are very, very lucky to have such a brilliant, funny, deeply human writer to speak for us. My only wish is that his writing turns to India once again, because his knowledge and love for the country are so deep.</p> I saw Rushdie read from “Enchantress” at the 92nd Street Y in New York some weeks ago, and can confirm that he is indeed “a demi-God of public speaking engagements” as well as a “master of spoken English.” He held the audience captive.

If you need further proof, seek out the Joseph Campbell PBS interview from last year. When Campbell asks him what he made of the controversial Danish cartoons satirizing Mohammed, Rushdie replies, without losing a beat, “Do you think God cares about a cartoon in a Danish newspaper?” Indeed.

We desis are very, very lucky to have such a brilliant, funny, deeply human writer to speak for us. My only wish is that his writing turns to India once again, because his knowledge and love for the country are so deep.

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By: Amrita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/06/10/rushdie_google/comment-page-1/#comment-205832 Amrita Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:28:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5242#comment-205832 <blockquote>Kakutani must have been in a hurry when reading Rushdie's latest. Only an impatient, boring reader could call it confusing - as she has done.</blockquote> <p>I'm sure Michiko Kakutani doesn't know enough to gauge it or appreciate it. Red sandstone looking like red smoke at dawn and all-- how woudld anyone know what Rushdie has done if they haven't seen it for themselves and don't know from Jodha Bai? I was so relieved to see a British review of The Darjeeling Limited that remarked on how they seemed to be passing through Rajasthan that the difference in Rushdie reviews here and in Blighty makes me quite nostalgic for the familiarity of over the pond. But that will come -- here, I mean.</p> <p>Sorry, I meant as bawdy as the Bard of Avon.</p> Kakutani must have been in a hurry when reading Rushdie’s latest. Only an impatient, boring reader could call it confusing – as she has done.

I’m sure Michiko Kakutani doesn’t know enough to gauge it or appreciate it. Red sandstone looking like red smoke at dawn and all– how woudld anyone know what Rushdie has done if they haven’t seen it for themselves and don’t know from Jodha Bai? I was so relieved to see a British review of The Darjeeling Limited that remarked on how they seemed to be passing through Rajasthan that the difference in Rushdie reviews here and in Blighty makes me quite nostalgic for the familiarity of over the pond. But that will come — here, I mean.

Sorry, I meant as bawdy as the Bard of Avon.

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By: Amrita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/06/10/rushdie_google/comment-page-1/#comment-205829 Amrita Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:09:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5242#comment-205829 <blockquote>I heard him speak at the Barnes and Nobles in Union Square last week, and overall, he was remarkably amusing, and also a little bawdy. Who knew?</blockquote> <p>Anokha, he's always been just a s bawdy as the bard of Avon. Sign of greatness.</p> <p>Amardeep, he's gotta know who you are.</p> I heard him speak at the Barnes and Nobles in Union Square last week, and overall, he was remarkably amusing, and also a little bawdy. Who knew?

Anokha, he’s always been just a s bawdy as the bard of Avon. Sign of greatness.

Amardeep, he’s gotta know who you are.

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By: bess http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/06/10/rushdie_google/comment-page-1/#comment-205760 bess Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:56:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5242#comment-205760 <blockquote> the pans from the NY Times etc. What gives?</blockquote> <p>Kakutani must have been in a hurry when reading Rushdie's latest. Only an impatient, boring reader could call it confusing - as she has done.</p> <p>And as Ben Yagoda stated in Slate about NYT's Kakutani: <i>One has the sense of her deciding roughly at Page 2 whether or not a book is worthy; reading the rest of it to gather evidence for her case; spending some quality time with the Thesaurus; and then taking a large blunt hammer and pounding the message home.</i></p> the pans from the NY Times etc. What gives?

Kakutani must have been in a hurry when reading Rushdie’s latest. Only an impatient, boring reader could call it confusing – as she has done.

And as Ben Yagoda stated in Slate about NYT’s Kakutani: One has the sense of her deciding roughly at Page 2 whether or not a book is worthy; reading the rest of it to gather evidence for her case; spending some quality time with the Thesaurus; and then taking a large blunt hammer and pounding the message home.

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By: Amol http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/06/10/rushdie_google/comment-page-1/#comment-205703 Amol Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:39:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5242#comment-205703 <blockquote>I couldn't help but think - these 2 Bombay boys (are they from the same religious background?)</blockquote> <p>Yes. More similarities: Both Zakaria Sr. and Rushdie Sr. studied in England and practiced law.</p> I couldn’t help but think – these 2 Bombay boys (are they from the same religious background?)

Yes. More similarities: Both Zakaria Sr. and Rushdie Sr. studied in England and practiced law.

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By: Neale http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/06/10/rushdie_google/comment-page-1/#comment-205694 Neale Wed, 11 Jun 2008 08:22:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5242#comment-205694 <p>I , for one, would pay to watch the Salman in conversation. Not so for his books , any longer, sadly. During the fatwa, i remember watching him on NPR, seated in front of a drab canvas screen. He looked pre occupied and made a ton of sense - a master of spoken English.</p> <p>On Sunday, he had a snippet of an iv with FAreed Z. Again he was eloquently emphatic about his hatred of fundamentalism. I couldn't help but think - these 2 Bombay boys (are they from the same religious background?), i wish the <i>other</i> one had a talk show.</p> I , for one, would pay to watch the Salman in conversation. Not so for his books , any longer, sadly. During the fatwa, i remember watching him on NPR, seated in front of a drab canvas screen. He looked pre occupied and made a ton of sense – a master of spoken English.

On Sunday, he had a snippet of an iv with FAreed Z. Again he was eloquently emphatic about his hatred of fundamentalism. I couldn’t help but think – these 2 Bombay boys (are they from the same religious background?), i wish the other one had a talk show.

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By: Anokha http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/06/10/rushdie_google/comment-page-1/#comment-205679 Anokha Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:53:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5242#comment-205679 <p>I heard him speak at the Barnes and Nobles in Union Square last week, and overall, he was remarkably amusing, and also a little bawdy. Who knew?</p> I heard him speak at the Barnes and Nobles in Union Square last week, and overall, he was remarkably amusing, and also a little bawdy. Who knew?

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By: cicatrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/06/10/rushdie_google/comment-page-1/#comment-205668 cicatrix Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:41:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5242#comment-205668 <blockquote>Rushdie mentioned his reservations about the digitization of in-copyright literary works that has been part of the Books.Google.com project. He wasn’t opposed to digitizing current books in principle, but argued that it has to be done in a way so as to make sure that authors are fairly compensated for their works...so perhaps Rushdie was being overly alarmist here.</blockquote> <p>Google got off to a bad start with the publishing industry when in began digitizing entire works without asking. The publishing industry is, in turn, totally technophobic, so the "snippets" thing is hard for most to understand. Even as they use it, they fear marauding Mongol armies of hackers, stealing and downloading away. Another fear about digitizing it that it makes piracy cheaper and easier. None of this is really valid or even makes sense, but most authors seem to have that alarmist attitude.</p> <p>Have to say that digitizing is <i>wrecking</i> reference publishing. Most companies are scrambling to get online and cutting on print publications, but it's a slow process and the info is already available for free in most cases. Dictionaries, encyclopedias, specialized reference of all kinds...and of course, newspapers and magazines.</p> <blockquote>the reading was being teleconferenced live with three other Google offices, which you could see on a screen projected behind Rushdie’s head. (By contrast, when we have readings where I teach, we have enough trouble just getting the microphones to work without brutal feedback…)</blockquote> <p>Was at a book conference and attended a seminar to see Google pitch the books project...<i>nothing</i> worked. Trouble with the slideshow, the video presentation wouldn't even start. Speakers had relied on the electronic material so scrambled to speak extemporaneously and when the laptop finally projected onto the plain white dropcloth, went to websites to get the info they needed. Google has its awkward days too :)</p> Rushdie mentioned his reservations about the digitization of in-copyright literary works that has been part of the Books.Google.com project. He wasn’t opposed to digitizing current books in principle, but argued that it has to be done in a way so as to make sure that authors are fairly compensated for their works…so perhaps Rushdie was being overly alarmist here.

Google got off to a bad start with the publishing industry when in began digitizing entire works without asking. The publishing industry is, in turn, totally technophobic, so the “snippets” thing is hard for most to understand. Even as they use it, they fear marauding Mongol armies of hackers, stealing and downloading away. Another fear about digitizing it that it makes piracy cheaper and easier. None of this is really valid or even makes sense, but most authors seem to have that alarmist attitude.

Have to say that digitizing is wrecking reference publishing. Most companies are scrambling to get online and cutting on print publications, but it’s a slow process and the info is already available for free in most cases. Dictionaries, encyclopedias, specialized reference of all kinds…and of course, newspapers and magazines.

the reading was being teleconferenced live with three other Google offices, which you could see on a screen projected behind Rushdie’s head. (By contrast, when we have readings where I teach, we have enough trouble just getting the microphones to work without brutal feedback…)

Was at a book conference and attended a seminar to see Google pitch the books project…nothing worked. Trouble with the slideshow, the video presentation wouldn’t even start. Speakers had relied on the electronic material so scrambled to speak extemporaneously and when the laptop finally projected onto the plain white dropcloth, went to websites to get the info they needed. Google has its awkward days too :)

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By: zazou http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/06/10/rushdie_google/comment-page-1/#comment-205663 zazou Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:07:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5242#comment-205663 <p>Wow, maybe if Rushdie came and read where I teach, we could get the podiums working AND the room temp at a liveable level. Amerdeep, you and I need to get out of the classroom and get writing.</p> Wow, maybe if Rushdie came and read where I teach, we could get the podiums working AND the room temp at a liveable level. Amerdeep, you and I need to get out of the classroom and get writing.

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By: zuni http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/06/10/rushdie_google/comment-page-1/#comment-205660 zuni Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:17:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5242#comment-205660 <p><i>3 · <b><a href="http://indian2006.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">sonia</a></b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005242.html#comment205612">said</a></i></p> <blockquote><blockquote>(Otherwise, he stated, rather direly, “it could destroy the publishing industry.”) In my experience using Books.Google.com, the “snippets” view seems to work quite well to limit access to in-copyright texts, so perhaps Rushdie was being overly alarmist here. </blockquote> I agree. Destroy the publishing industry? Truely doubtful, even if more books were online. I don't know one person who could tolerate reading a book online. I suppose it could be argued that more people will be able to get a taste of what the book is about, and decide not to buy it. But then wouldn't the vice versa also be true. And doesn't this come into play when we skim that book for <i>15 minutes </i>in the bookstore. Anyway. Interesting post. </blockquote> <p>I wouldn't say his fear is completely baseless. Many times during writing papers, I have searched for specific texts which google showed in the book snippets. I of course gleefully used the information; but it made me wonder if the library would care to buy the actual book in its reserve if people like me (who sometimes care about specific info and not the whole book) continue to get their info from google books.</p> 3 · sonia said

(Otherwise, he stated, rather direly, “it could destroy the publishing industry.”) In my experience using Books.Google.com, the “snippets” view seems to work quite well to limit access to in-copyright texts, so perhaps Rushdie was being overly alarmist here.
I agree. Destroy the publishing industry? Truely doubtful, even if more books were online. I don’t know one person who could tolerate reading a book online. I suppose it could be argued that more people will be able to get a taste of what the book is about, and decide not to buy it. But then wouldn’t the vice versa also be true. And doesn’t this come into play when we skim that book for 15 minutes in the bookstore. Anyway. Interesting post.

I wouldn’t say his fear is completely baseless. Many times during writing papers, I have searched for specific texts which google showed in the book snippets. I of course gleefully used the information; but it made me wonder if the library would care to buy the actual book in its reserve if people like me (who sometimes care about specific info and not the whole book) continue to get their info from google books.

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