I miss SM.

Zuni, that was a silly, pun-y joke. Also, I’m not sure which attitude of mine you refer to (I have lots), but please don’t make ABCD generalizations because they’re rarely correct.

“InfoUSA advertised lists of “Elderly Opportunity Seekers,” 3.3 million older people “looking for ways to make money,” and “Suffering Seniors,” 4.7 million people with cancer or Alzheimer’s disease. “Oldies but Goodies” contained 500,000 gamblers over 55 years old, for 8.5 cents apiece. One list said: “These people are gullible. They want to believe that their luck can change.” Reading about this made me sick to my stomach.

Wikipedia says that he has been cleared of his company has been cleared of all the wrong doings. But if it is true then it is really gut-wrenching.

Cicatrix >>>> Gupta’s a F(resh) o(ff) B(oat) F(riend) o(f) B(ill)??

I didn’t expect this from one of the SM bloggers. Cicatrix, your attitude shows through. Also, that FOB happened to have donated millions for eduction in India (Including women’s college in rural India). I don’t see too many ABDs doing that for India or US.

Cicatrix >>>> Gupta’s a F(resh) o(ff) B(oat) F(riend) o(f) B(ill)??

Both of you must be real ABCDs.

A(merican) B(orn) C(onfused) D(esis) A(merican) B(orn) C(hutia) D(esis) A(merican) B(orn) C(lever) D(esis)

i don’t see why hillary isn’t justified in staying in it till she can’t get the majority of all delegates.

well, others have staeyed in but no one cared b/c they where vanity candidates (brown, buchanan, jackson,etc). hillary’s close but she still needs a hail mary. so desperate times call for desperate measures but desperate measures could kill obama’s candidacy worse than kennedy killed carter’s.

her base is pissed. she’s got ferraro going around saying obama’s sexist for wiping his shoulder. people believe her and there’s movement afoot in feminist circles to not vote for obama. bubba and ferraro have labeled him a racist (or at least played the race card on them) dividing the party on racial lines that may have serious consequences in the future. the muslim smear can be traced directly to the clinton campaign and even nixon was careful enough to avoid phrases like “hard working american, white americans” when practicing the southern strategy.

the latest gaffe was the culmination of increasingly extreme rhetoric emanating from the clinton campaign, analogizing fl and mi and caucus states to zimbabwe, seems designed to de-legitimize an obama nomination. a candidate who once tried to disenfranchise nevada caucus goers is trying to seat the mi delegates “as is”–a state where not only was obama not on the ballot but would’ve likely won if he were–compares this electioneering to the suffragette, abolitionist, and civil rights movement. megalomania anyone? but if enough clinton supporters believe this, it could be real trouble for obama

i’m sure the mccain campaign is already cuing ads showing the 2nd most powerful democrat in the country admitting the dem candidate for prez has not crossed the threshold to be commander in chief. his iraq postion is a “fairy tale” the former president tells us.

i don’t ever recall a serious contender attacking her party’s presumptive nominee so viciously. kennedy, an politician with an almost equal sense of entitlement, against carter comes closest. if your concern is, which mine isn’t, for the democratic party’s chances in Nov, then you want hillary to bow out.

sorry if this comment sounds like stanley fish, but that’s just politics between two politicians (gasp, even obama!). it is not true that “she cannot win mathematically”. there are superdelegates in play and she is making a political argument to sway political insiders. it looks like she is losing this argument, although the seating of mich and florida – even at 50% – could potentially give her argument some political steam. there is no “moral” or “correct” answer for the superdelegates – that is the explicit reason for their existence in 1982, they are supposed to cast their vote based on their judgment on electability.

now, i personally think electability is a crap reason to pick a candidate, and that even though i am (marginally) a hillary supporter, obama just captured the anti-establishment zeitgeist better in the past year, and that hillary made the wrong call when she decided to run on political experience at a time when a large part of america is justifiably tired of the excessively politicized policy wing of the bush administration.

it is possible that this might carry him past the finish line in the general elections, but there are real concerns that purely victory minded dem party bosses must resolve for themselves – less about obama himself, than whether certain american constituencies, cough, cough, appalachia, might vote against him. and the fact of the matter is that, right now, there is no winner. the obama camp is making a political argument that superdelegates should follow the current pledged delegate count, the hillary camp is making an argument that the popular vote – counted their way – is in the other direction, and that she is more electable. and even if you don’t buy hillary’s argument, this primary has been tremendously close, and i don’t see why hillary isn’t justified in staying in it till she can’t get the majority of all delegates.

Sirhan, please consider the fact that the recent uproar is rising in volume because she cannot mathematically win and has resorted to using numbers that are disingenuous at best and totally false at worst. Her “popular vote” win includes all votes cast for herself, and allocates none of the “uncommitted” votes to the candidates (who followed the DNC rules) and kept their names off the ballot. She intends to count Puerto Rico votes in her popular vote total even though PR doesn’t vote in the general election. Her sudden support of all votes counting when her campaign stated early on that Florida and Michigan wouldn’t count, when her supporter Harold Ickes helped draw up the very rules she now decries…yeah, it’s ridiculous.

From the previous SM article on Vinod Gupta linked above:

Gupta is an FOB, a Friend of Bill that is

He must be Jon Lovitz’s long lost brother.