Indians would sell their souls for acceptance by mainstream white society in this country, so stroking white dicks doesn’t seem like that big a deal.

I know a bunch of guju girls who are like that.

but you think it reasonable to pass summary judgment on all women who don’t date within their own race, and consider that they “sold their souls to stroke white dicks”.

it would be cartoonish if it weren’t so poisonous.

people with such a manichaean view of white-colored interaction should just emancipate themselves by going off to liberia.

Why don’t you do us all a favor and flush yourself down the toilet… there are enough brown turds floating in the SM toilet bowl already.

This thread started out as some celebrity garbage, but HMF redirected the debate choosing to use the lens of race/class–and that’s what I’m voicing my agreement with.

I really could not care who this girl or any other brown girl dates, sleeps with, or marries.

Has anyone read “India: A Wounded Civilization”? There’s this great section where he meets a white Professor from the US and his upper-class Indian wife. I think his assessment still rings true today.

I don’t doubt the whole ‘u can’t help who you fall in love with’ thing, but you have to recognize that these decisions often are tied very closely to the narrative we have going on in our heads about how our lives are taking shape.

Anyways, none of this should come as a surprise. Indians would sell their souls for acceptance by mainstream white society in this country, so stroking white dicks doesn’t seem like that big a deal.

you sound like my grandparents when they insist i should marry within my caste. and i think they are prejudiced and backward for pushing such an idea.

also, what about desi men who date white women? are they race traitors too? should we set a pile of diwali firecrackers on fire on their lawn so they realize the error of their ways?

t’s not towards them, it’s toward their inability to realize how they’ve been socially manipulated and disneyfied

good! now i feel better about considering some commenters racist, misogynist blockheads. it’s not them, it’s their extremist ideas.

please. maybe if there is a racist attitude involved, they ‘deserve’ it. but when many guys say this, it is sour grapes – at their core, many of these men who comment about such inter-racial couples are not upset over the racist element, if any – they are upset because they feel they are directly affected by it b/c they lost out on yet another potential desi girl. i don’t see (as many) desi men lamenting when black or latina women date outside their respective races.

It irks you? well crack open a friggin history book. This country is replete with legitamized removal of people from all kinds of races, SIMPLY BECAUSE of their “race” No one wants to believe their race was the mitigating factor, as it’s not a good feeling, its something you cannot control, this is why institutional racism or racism of any kind is such a downer.

so, what is this – revenge via marriage? just because you have some grudge against white people and history doesn’t mean that everybody else has to. and have we learned nothing that we should continue such practises in our generation and time? it’s a very slippery slope to continue attributing to individuals the actions and crimes of their race and ancestors. if i want to marry a white guy, i really don’t give a toss what anybody else thinks – don’t try to second-guess the thinking – consciously or sub-consciously – of everybody that doesn’t conform to your approved practises.

and of propensities towards white people – this may be so, but i don’t know what says that we shouldn’t have a propensity towards white people, or that we should have a propensity towards desi people. each person is a result of their circumstances, be they geographical, socio-economic, ethnic, religious, academic or otherwise. and these may very well make them have more in common with somebody who is of a differet race or ethnicity, but nonetheless they have – not just think they have – more in common with such people, whether or not other desis think that is ‘right.’

like whom? race is the most salient, when it’s considered within class.

ie compare a black ceo to bill gates, not to a white one-legged busboy.

hillary clinton and gloria steinam argue that gender is the most salient

Gender’s implications are not complete social constructs. So a comparison doesnt even make sense. It’s like saying race is the most salient feature in the NBA, and you retort with, no, leg length is. But leg length has physical implications (as does gender)

yes and we can talk about aliens too. Of course, I said race is the MOST salient, not the only one. And I’m restricting our discussion to the US because it’s clear Ms Huma and her potential suitors are all within the US and are affected by the same society we are.

actually, i’ve heard many race-theorist begin to consider that class is the most salient. and restricting discussion to the US makes no sense to our diaspora or any globalized communities of color.

also, going beyond the US helps us consider other possibilities beyond American-centric race theories.

yes and we can talk about aliens too. Of course, I said race is the MOST salient, not the only one. And I’m restricting our discussion to the US because it’s clear Ms Huma and her potential suitors are all within the US and are affected by the same society we are.

it irks me that the guy thinks they would have been ‘in the race’ but for their, well, race

It irks you? well crack open a friggin history book. This country is replete with legitamized removal of people from all kinds of races, SIMPLY BECAUSE of their “race” No one wants to believe their race was the mitigating factor, as it’s not a good feeling, its something you cannot control, this is why institutional racism or racism of any kind is such a downer.

but for women who are open to all races, i don’t think it’s fair to say that ultimately choosing a white guy sometimes reflects something more than just individual compatibilities.

That’s an idealistic and impractical viewpoint. The same reason white people cannot “be proud and unite” behind their whiteness (and not be considered racist), desi women cannot have propensities towards white men (and I’d argue that if a desi girl ultimately chooses one, it’s out of a propensity towards them, nine times out of ten) and have those propensities be divorced from the racial heirarchy that our society pumps into us from day one.

although, getting back to desi women who solely date white, i don’t even think it’s worth discussing – and i pointed them out only because of the sour grapes attitude of some desi men towards them.

It’s not towards them, it’s toward their inability to realize how they’ve been socially manipulated and disneyfied, and more so than that, how most of them get burned in the long run (many data points to prove this). but in the end, maybe they deserve it.

how could i forget Oprah!

of course, she sold out by licking steinbeck’s ass. she could date michael pfleger, it wouldn’t matter.