Comments on: Gay Rights in India — an Update http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/23/gay_rights_in_i/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: puf http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/23/gay_rights_in_i/comment-page-2/#comment-243837 puf Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:25:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5210#comment-243837 <p>Guys i don't know what u r talking about in a country where kissing in public is offence,speaking against unlawful activities of police is a crime and speaking against politicians is the biggest crime while the politicians keeps earning money like they are in some flourishing business and other government officials are no different from this - this ban on homosexual activity doesn't come as a surprise to me. When the law makers are bunch of hypocrats who know nothing but to copy the law from others book and politicians doesn't have anything else to think but their vote bank - i am damn sure they are not going to change any damn thing about law!. I also heard few people accusing others like "if u r good why don't u do it or do that" well i'm ready to stand an election but the question is are u ready to accept it and vote for me and change the face of politics? i don't think so why don't u shut the f*** up and write u r own opinion and not offend to what other say and accept the fact that nothing is going to change in india not in 1000years!!!</p> Guys i don’t know what u r talking about in a country where kissing in public is offence,speaking against unlawful activities of police is a crime and speaking against politicians is the biggest crime while the politicians keeps earning money like they are in some flourishing business and other government officials are no different from this – this ban on homosexual activity doesn’t come as a surprise to me. When the law makers are bunch of hypocrats who know nothing but to copy the law from others book and politicians doesn’t have anything else to think but their vote bank – i am damn sure they are not going to change any damn thing about law!. I also heard few people accusing others like “if u r good why don’t u do it or do that” well i’m ready to stand an election but the question is are u ready to accept it and vote for me and change the face of politics? i don’t think so why don’t u shut the f*** up and write u r own opinion and not offend to what other say and accept the fact that nothing is going to change in india not in 1000years!!!

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By: eshmeet http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/23/gay_rights_in_i/comment-page-2/#comment-242964 eshmeet Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:44:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5210#comment-242964 <p>our article 377 is very old , it is as old as our 1st war of independence.... i know today the youth is more liberal n more open minded than those people sitting in the parliament and making laws.....so being gay / lesbian might be a crime in their eyes, but 10 years imprisionment is very harsh n cruel..... i really oppose these kind of punishments....i think preference of a sex partener (male/female) is a very personal thing, so our law should not interfere in that..... but at the same time this is very unnatural, n quite unethical. .... so it should not be banned but at the same time should not be encouraged......</p> our article 377 is very old , it is as old as our 1st war of independence…. i know today the youth is more liberal n more open minded than those people sitting in the parliament and making laws…..so being gay / lesbian might be a crime in their eyes, but 10 years imprisionment is very harsh n cruel….. i really oppose these kind of punishments….i think preference of a sex partener (male/female) is a very personal thing, so our law should not interfere in that….. but at the same time this is very unnatural, n quite unethical. …. so it should not be banned but at the same time should not be encouraged……

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By: anurag http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/23/gay_rights_in_i/comment-page-2/#comment-240889 anurag Sun, 31 May 2009 16:19:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5210#comment-240889 <p>we need to have places/meetings / our representatives in the parliament etc , we are gays, and yes we choose to be the ones , it is natural when you live within a boys school/ in army , the gayism takes place, but why did human beings have boys hostels/ army etc if they totally want to remove the trend of gayism , it is inevitable and will keep on increasing till the time a balance is achieved or till the time gays are free like straight people to choose what they want to do . how they want to live their life . all gays welcome at basic drag</p> we need to have places/meetings / our representatives in the parliament etc , we are gays, and yes we choose to be the ones , it is natural when you live within a boys school/ in army , the gayism takes place, but why did human beings have boys hostels/ army etc if they totally want to remove the trend of gayism , it is inevitable and will keep on increasing till the time a balance is achieved or till the time gays are free like straight people to choose what they want to do . how they want to live their life . all gays welcome at basic drag

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By: Indian LESBIAN Woman http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/23/gay_rights_in_i/comment-page-2/#comment-236991 Indian LESBIAN Woman Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:53:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5210#comment-236991 <p>It is SO pathetic and SHAMEFUL of India and the way they view homosexuals.</p> <p>Centuries ago, it was written in the Vedas and scriptures that there were homosexual activities that were present in the country.</p> <p>Then, when the British came and ruled India and placed that STUPID Act of "Banning Homosexuality or any other 'unnatural' sexual acts", India followed that rule. But ever since India has obtained freedom from Britain, WHY ARE THEY STILL FOLLOWING A RULE THAT WAS PLACED 150 YEARS AGO???</p> <p>I am starting to realize how hypocritical India is in their own beliefs. We are one of the MOST LIBERAL cultures out there, yet we don't want to stand in our beliefs because of an act that was placed by ANOTHER country 150 years ago. And THAT country (Britain) NOW ALLOWS civil unions in their country!! Years ago, people were ignorant and were afraid to accept activities that might not have been the "majority" of activities!!</p> <p>So essentially, India has moved BACKWARDS in their thinking!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY!!! It is so pathetic how we look up to western countries and how forward they are, while this country WAS WWAAAYY forward than any other countries CENTURIES ago!!!</p> <p>OPEN YOUR EYES INDIA!!! AND STOP BEING IGNORANT!!!</p> <p>--Indian Lesbian Woman</p> It is SO pathetic and SHAMEFUL of India and the way they view homosexuals.

Centuries ago, it was written in the Vedas and scriptures that there were homosexual activities that were present in the country.

Then, when the British came and ruled India and placed that STUPID Act of “Banning Homosexuality or any other ‘unnatural’ sexual acts”, India followed that rule. But ever since India has obtained freedom from Britain, WHY ARE THEY STILL FOLLOWING A RULE THAT WAS PLACED 150 YEARS AGO???

I am starting to realize how hypocritical India is in their own beliefs. We are one of the MOST LIBERAL cultures out there, yet we don’t want to stand in our beliefs because of an act that was placed by ANOTHER country 150 years ago. And THAT country (Britain) NOW ALLOWS civil unions in their country!! Years ago, people were ignorant and were afraid to accept activities that might not have been the “majority” of activities!!

So essentially, India has moved BACKWARDS in their thinking!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY!!! It is so pathetic how we look up to western countries and how forward they are, while this country WAS WWAAAYY forward than any other countries CENTURIES ago!!!

OPEN YOUR EYES INDIA!!! AND STOP BEING IGNORANT!!!

–Indian Lesbian Woman

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By: Techbuzz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/23/gay_rights_in_i/comment-page-2/#comment-221953 Techbuzz Mon, 24 Nov 2008 03:55:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5210#comment-221953 <p><i>32 · <b>portmanteau</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005210.html#comment204305">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>i'm pretty sure boarding school buggery is not unique to india. english boarding schools, for instance, have always been associated with it. and i doubt sexual harassment of younger students was encouraged even in that situation by the 'elders,' but i'm sure many thought it was part of the normal trajectory of growing up. </blockquote> <p>In boarding schools it stems from the teasing of the better-looking 'cute' boys as being effeminate, which ultimately leads to them becoming targets for sexual experimentation. I suppose the same thing happens in male prisons.</p> 32 · portmanteau said

i’m pretty sure boarding school buggery is not unique to india. english boarding schools, for instance, have always been associated with it. and i doubt sexual harassment of younger students was encouraged even in that situation by the ‘elders,’ but i’m sure many thought it was part of the normal trajectory of growing up.

In boarding schools it stems from the teasing of the better-looking ‘cute’ boys as being effeminate, which ultimately leads to them becoming targets for sexual experimentation. I suppose the same thing happens in male prisons.

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By: sbw http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/23/gay_rights_in_i/comment-page-2/#comment-221463 sbw Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:29:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5210#comment-221463 <blockquote> 50 · jerry louis on November 17, 2008 09:39 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?) I'm doing a paper on gay rights in India. Can any give any information? </blockquote> <p>Not long ago there was a guest blogger here whose blog http://www.venialsin.com/ gave a picture of the topic in Pakistan, not India, perhaps that could lead you to more sources.. good luck with your research</p> 50 · jerry louis on November 17, 2008 09:39 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?) I’m doing a paper on gay rights in India. Can any give any information?

Not long ago there was a guest blogger here whose blog http://www.venialsin.com/ gave a picture of the topic in Pakistan, not India, perhaps that could lead you to more sources.. good luck with your research

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By: jerry louis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/23/gay_rights_in_i/comment-page-1/#comment-221445 jerry louis Mon, 17 Nov 2008 15:39:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5210#comment-221445 <p>I'm doing a paper on gay rights in India. Can any give any information?</p> I’m doing a paper on gay rights in India. Can any give any information?

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By: archivereader http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/23/gay_rights_in_i/comment-page-1/#comment-204944 archivereader Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:38:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5210#comment-204944 <p>I get really confused when I read about all these debates. Isn't there some sort of zeroth law that states justice is for ALL humans, regardless of race,gender,orientation,nationality and any other factor that can discriminate them?</p> <p>If so, shouldnt this override all these laws?</p> <p>Also, because of this post I found out that the Indian law controls the way we have sex!!! How DO they enforce this stuff? What about the millions of even heterosexual, married couples who have "carnal" sex?? This is insane!!</p> I get really confused when I read about all these debates. Isn’t there some sort of zeroth law that states justice is for ALL humans, regardless of race,gender,orientation,nationality and any other factor that can discriminate them?

If so, shouldnt this override all these laws?

Also, because of this post I found out that the Indian law controls the way we have sex!!! How DO they enforce this stuff? What about the millions of even heterosexual, married couples who have “carnal” sex?? This is insane!!

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By: portmanteau http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/23/gay_rights_in_i/comment-page-1/#comment-204369 portmanteau Mon, 26 May 2008 17:57:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5210#comment-204369 <p><i>47 · <b><a href="http://queeristan.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">nerox2</a></b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005210.html#comment204366">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Just because someone has gay sex does not mean that they are gay.</blockquote> <p>i agree. that was my point.</p> 47 · nerox2 said

Just because someone has gay sex does not mean that they are gay.

i agree. that was my point.

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By: nerox2 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/23/gay_rights_in_i/comment-page-1/#comment-204366 nerox2 Mon, 26 May 2008 17:22:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5210#comment-204366 <p><i>42 · <b>DevilDeval</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005210.html#comment204338">said</a></i></p> <blockquote><blockquote>several men who have sex with men in prison too don't think of themselves as gay</blockquote> I smoked, but did not inhale. </blockquote> <p>You can't look at this in black and white. Just because someone has gay sex does not mean that they are gay. The act itself does not define one's sexuality. I knew I was gay long before I ever had sex with anyone. There are many psychological, emotional, and cultural aspects that factor into someone being defined as "gay"</p> 42 · DevilDeval said

several men who have sex with men in prison too don’t think of themselves as gay
I smoked, but did not inhale.

You can’t look at this in black and white. Just because someone has gay sex does not mean that they are gay. The act itself does not define one’s sexuality. I knew I was gay long before I ever had sex with anyone. There are many psychological, emotional, and cultural aspects that factor into someone being defined as “gay”

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