Comments on: Hell in the time of the Junta http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/08/hell_in_the_tim/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Prem Ramaswami http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/08/hell_in_the_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-203374 Prem Ramaswami Wed, 14 May 2008 14:17:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5178#comment-203374 <p>Google has agreed to match up to $1 million in donations.</p> <p>www.google.com/myanmarcyclone/</p> <p>More info from direct relief here: http://directrelief.org/EmergencyResponse/2008/CycloneNargisMyanmar/CycloneNargisMyanmar.aspx</p> Google has agreed to match up to $1 million in donations.

http://www.google.com/myanmarcyclone/

More info from direct relief here: http://directrelief.org/EmergencyResponse/2008/CycloneNargisMyanmar/CycloneNargisMyanmar.aspx

]]> By: Fish out of water http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/08/hell_in_the_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-203087 Fish out of water Mon, 12 May 2008 05:23:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5178#comment-203087 <p>JOAT, Burma also has an ethnic Indian population. A number of these guys work as domestic helpers at the homes of ethnic Indians in Bangkok. From what they have told us, Indians are perhaps at the bottom of the economic chain in the country (Burma) and the only way to escape penury is to make the journey to Bangkok. When they started moving to Thailand about 10-15 years ago, these burmese were caught in a legal limbo as they were deemed illegal aliens in the country. Now that Thailand has relaxed labor regulations, the employers of these domestic helpers can get employment permits, which in turn has helped eliminate abuse and exploitation. Some of the more entreprenuerial Burmese have started to run tailor shops in resort towns of Pattaya and Phuket and from what I hear they are making a good living.</p> <p>BTW, the last Mughal emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar is buried in Rangoon. He was exiled there by the British after the muniteers lost the 1857 War of Independence.</p> JOAT, Burma also has an ethnic Indian population. A number of these guys work as domestic helpers at the homes of ethnic Indians in Bangkok. From what they have told us, Indians are perhaps at the bottom of the economic chain in the country (Burma) and the only way to escape penury is to make the journey to Bangkok. When they started moving to Thailand about 10-15 years ago, these burmese were caught in a legal limbo as they were deemed illegal aliens in the country. Now that Thailand has relaxed labor regulations, the employers of these domestic helpers can get employment permits, which in turn has helped eliminate abuse and exploitation. Some of the more entreprenuerial Burmese have started to run tailor shops in resort towns of Pattaya and Phuket and from what I hear they are making a good living.

BTW, the last Mughal emperor Bahadur Shah Zafar is buried in Rangoon. He was exiled there by the British after the muniteers lost the 1857 War of Independence.

]]> By: DesiInNJ http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/08/hell_in_the_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-203084 DesiInNJ Mon, 12 May 2008 03:52:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5178#comment-203084 <p>Maybe the junta is checking for 'religious pamphlets' in the food donations.</p> Maybe the junta is checking for ‘religious pamphlets’ in the food donations.

]]> By: Bridget Jones http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/08/hell_in_the_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-202977 Bridget Jones Sat, 10 May 2008 01:43:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5178#comment-202977 <blockquote>The biggest problem right now is that the effort to fly in precious water and food are being thwarted by the paranoid military junta that runs the country and is too suspicious and inept to grant visas to aid workers</blockquote> <p>On lighter note how about contacting <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambo_%28film%29">Rambo</a> stationed in Thailand ?</p> The biggest problem right now is that the effort to fly in precious water and food are being thwarted by the paranoid military junta that runs the country and is too suspicious and inept to grant visas to aid workers

On lighter note how about contacting Rambo stationed in Thailand ?

]]> By: Aung http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/08/hell_in_the_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-202968 Aung Fri, 09 May 2008 23:19:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5178#comment-202968 <p>Hi there</p> <p>I am a regular visitor here and I would like to promote some links of the international NGOs where good hearted folks can donate some of their hard earned money for a good cause. You can click on any site below to donate from as low as 10 Dollars and that small amount which can make a difference, you can save a life. Thanks.........</p> <p>Save the Children (UK) Have launched a £5million appeal http://www.savethechildren.org.uk/en/32_5455.htm</p> <p>Medicins Sans Frontieres (MSF (NL) http://www.msf.org/msfinternational/invoke.cfm?objectid=BD72415A-15C5-F00A-25E67A241B05BAA0&component=toolkit.article&method=full_html working in Yangon area including Hlaingthaya, Dalla and Twante</p> <p>Merlin http://www.merlin.org.uk/Lists/News-Detail.aspx?id=687 £500,000 appeal Medical team sent to Laputta Have been active in Irrawaddy Division for some time</p> <p>Care http://www.careinternational.org.uk/CARE%20APPEALS%20TO%20BRITISH%20PUBLIC%20AS%20DEATH%20TOLL%20FROM%20CYCLONE%20NARGIS%20RISES%20+11253.twl Currently working on needs in South Dagon and Thaketa</p> <p>World Vision https://www.worldvision.org.uk/server.php?show=nav.127 You can identify your donation to their Myanmar cyclone appeal</p> <p>International Federation of the Red Cross http://www.ifrc.org/Docs/News/pr08/2108.asp Have been working to build the grassroots capacity of the Myanmar Red Cross Society which has a network of volunteers throughout the country</p> <p>Not an NGO, but UNICEF is also organised and active throughout the country, and appealing for funds</p> <p>http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/myanmar_43788.html</p> Hi there

I am a regular visitor here and I would like to promote some links of the international NGOs where good hearted folks can donate some of their hard earned money for a good cause. You can click on any site below to donate from as low as 10 Dollars and that small amount which can make a difference, you can save a life. Thanks………

Save the Children (UK) Have launched a £5million appeal http://www.savethechildren.org.uk/en/32_5455.htm

Medicins Sans Frontieres (MSF (NL) http://www.msf.org/msfinternational/invoke.cfm?objectid=BD72415A-15C5-F00A-25E67A241B05BAA0&component=toolkit.article&method=full_html working in Yangon area including Hlaingthaya, Dalla and Twante

Merlin http://www.merlin.org.uk/Lists/News-Detail.aspx?id=687 £500,000 appeal Medical team sent to Laputta Have been active in Irrawaddy Division for some time

Care http://www.careinternational.org.uk/CARE%20APPEALS%20TO%20BRITISH%20PUBLIC%20AS%20DEATH%20TOLL%20FROM%20CYCLONE%20NARGIS%20RISES%20+11253.twl Currently working on needs in South Dagon and Thaketa

World Vision https://www.worldvision.org.uk/server.php?show=nav.127 You can identify your donation to their Myanmar cyclone appeal

International Federation of the Red Cross http://www.ifrc.org/Docs/News/pr08/2108.asp Have been working to build the grassroots capacity of the Myanmar Red Cross Society which has a network of volunteers throughout the country

Not an NGO, but UNICEF is also organised and active throughout the country, and appealing for funds

http://www.unicef.org/infobycountry/myanmar_43788.html

]]> By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/08/hell_in_the_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-202931 Kush Tandon Fri, 09 May 2008 18:56:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5178#comment-202931 <p><i>What are some of the major players that do business with Burma besides China?</i></p> <p>All of them..........directly or indirectly.</p> <p>Until few years ago, almost all major US and EU energy companies were in Burma. Chevron is sill there, so is Total of France (grandfather clause).</p> <p>Now, it is through proxies or new players in the game, Chinese, Indian, and South Korean companies. <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2007/BUSINESS/09/28/myanmar.oil.ap/index.html"> More here.</a></p> What are some of the major players that do business with Burma besides China?

All of them……….directly or indirectly.

Until few years ago, almost all major US and EU energy companies were in Burma. Chevron is sill there, so is Total of France (grandfather clause).

Now, it is through proxies or new players in the game, Chinese, Indian, and South Korean companies. More here.

]]> By: MoorNam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/08/hell_in_the_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-202930 MoorNam Fri, 09 May 2008 18:53:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5178#comment-202930 <p>JOAT:>><i>What's most frustrating is tons of food enough to feed and supplies for 95K people sitting at the airport </i></p> <p>There's no evidence that it's food that's in the crates on the tarmac. There's no guarantee that those crates don't contain guns and ammunition to aid the dissidents who want to overthrow the junta by force and overtake the country at this time of crisis.</p> <p>There - I said it with a serious, straight face.</p> <blockquote> <blockquote> <p><i>Support the US govt. initiative to fly over without permission and drop relief package</i>.</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>But the US government took the initiative to fly over and drop stuff over Iraq. And nobody liked it!</p> <p>M. Nam</p> JOAT:>>What’s most frustrating is tons of food enough to feed and supplies for 95K people sitting at the airport

There’s no evidence that it’s food that’s in the crates on the tarmac. There’s no guarantee that those crates don’t contain guns and ammunition to aid the dissidents who want to overthrow the junta by force and overtake the country at this time of crisis.

There – I said it with a serious, straight face.

Support the US govt. initiative to fly over without permission and drop relief package.

But the US government took the initiative to fly over and drop stuff over Iraq. And nobody liked it!

M. Nam

]]> By: Janeofalltrades http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/08/hell_in_the_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-202928 Janeofalltrades Fri, 09 May 2008 18:42:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5178#comment-202928 <p>Thank you Kush as always you come thru. That is what I didn't garner from my reading. The natural resources. What are some of the major players that do business with Burma besides China?</p> <p>But what a hairy situation. Too bad the US is mired in too much military might for all the wrong reasons elsewhere to step in and help like they did in Bosnia (that one counted...Iraq doesn't)</p> Thank you Kush as always you come thru. That is what I didn’t garner from my reading. The natural resources. What are some of the major players that do business with Burma besides China?

But what a hairy situation. Too bad the US is mired in too much military might for all the wrong reasons elsewhere to step in and help like they did in Bosnia (that one counted…Iraq doesn’t)

]]> By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/08/hell_in_the_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-202925 Kush Tandon Fri, 09 May 2008 18:35:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5178#comment-202925 <p><i>Razib? Kush T.</i></p> <p>Like most things in life...........it is about money.</p> <p>Burma/ Myanmar is:</p> <p>a) One of the corner of<b> Golden Triangle</b> of opium production b) Was once the largest exporter of rice c) Has lots of natural gas, and it goes back to <b>Burmah Oil Company</b> (1800s) d) Precious stones like ruby.</p> <p>Was once the richest country in the region, and now, it is ..............and military wants to control the resources I mentioned above.</p> Razib? Kush T.

Like most things in life………..it is about money.

Burma/ Myanmar is:

a) One of the corner of Golden Triangle of opium production b) Was once the largest exporter of rice c) Has lots of natural gas, and it goes back to Burmah Oil Company (1800s) d) Precious stones like ruby.

Was once the richest country in the region, and now, it is …………..and military wants to control the resources I mentioned above.

]]> By: Janeofalltrades http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/08/hell_in_the_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-202923 Janeofalltrades Fri, 09 May 2008 18:22:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5178#comment-202923 <p>What's most frustrating is tons of food enough to feed and supplies for 95K people sitting at the airport and the Burmese government won't do anything to help the people. At the end of the day I'm curious to understand what the vested interest is for the government to continue with the situation in Burma. I know China has vested interest in Burma, one of the bigger roadblocks to finding a solution but other than the basics about the military rule and unrest since the 60s I don't know much about Burma. Could someone shed some light....Razib? Kush T.</p> What’s most frustrating is tons of food enough to feed and supplies for 95K people sitting at the airport and the Burmese government won’t do anything to help the people. At the end of the day I’m curious to understand what the vested interest is for the government to continue with the situation in Burma. I know China has vested interest in Burma, one of the bigger roadblocks to finding a solution but other than the basics about the military rule and unrest since the 60s I don’t know much about Burma. Could someone shed some light….Razib? Kush T.

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