Comments on: “Highlight the torture and your brown daughter” http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/01/highlight_the_t/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: khdfdf http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/01/highlight_the_t/comment-page-2/#comment-214001 khdfdf Sun, 31 Aug 2008 05:19:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5168#comment-214001 <p>There is a beautiful side of McCain and his family that no one talks about. He's always portrayed for his 'ugly' character - when he's just like any other human being who makes mistakes. A lot of this hate for him is because he is a republican.</p> <p>Briget, keep your head up!! You're a sweetheart!</p> There is a beautiful side of McCain and his family that no one talks about. He’s always portrayed for his ‘ugly’ character – when he’s just like any other human being who makes mistakes. A lot of this hate for him is because he is a republican.

Briget, keep your head up!! You’re a sweetheart!

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By: Nara http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/01/highlight_the_t/comment-page-2/#comment-202328 Nara Sun, 04 May 2008 06:58:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5168#comment-202328 <p>Some of us who consider ourselves conservative are happy to see the torch passed from the likes of Rove, Bush ,Cheney and Condi Rice to McCain. I sincerely hope that he does not pick Condi to be his running mate. Someone has to standup and say failure will not be rewarded. I hope the incompetence and corruption in this adminsitration will be brought back to the pre-Bush levels. I never considered myself a big Clinton supporter but i would be happy to go back to those days.</p> <p>I find it funny that libertarians who happily supported this administration have a problem with McCain because of the campaign finance bill. They did not have problems with us meddling in Iraq. They did not have a problem when he signed a Medicare bill that is going to cost some 600 billion dollars and made his people lie for him about the true costs. No problems with gay marriage amendment for political gain. They draw a line at campaign finance reform.</p> <p>Liberals have a problem because he is not consistent. Please. Foolish consistency is not going to win him any votes. He has to win and I think he will. Once elected, given his history and his ability to work across party lines he will be a good (a solid B) president.</p> Some of us who consider ourselves conservative are happy to see the torch passed from the likes of Rove, Bush ,Cheney and Condi Rice to McCain. I sincerely hope that he does not pick Condi to be his running mate. Someone has to standup and say failure will not be rewarded. I hope the incompetence and corruption in this adminsitration will be brought back to the pre-Bush levels. I never considered myself a big Clinton supporter but i would be happy to go back to those days.

I find it funny that libertarians who happily supported this administration have a problem with McCain because of the campaign finance bill. They did not have problems with us meddling in Iraq. They did not have a problem when he signed a Medicare bill that is going to cost some 600 billion dollars and made his people lie for him about the true costs. No problems with gay marriage amendment for political gain. They draw a line at campaign finance reform.

Liberals have a problem because he is not consistent. Please. Foolish consistency is not going to win him any votes. He has to win and I think he will. Once elected, given his history and his ability to work across party lines he will be a good (a solid B) president.

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By: mishi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/01/highlight_the_t/comment-page-2/#comment-202296 mishi Sat, 03 May 2008 03:52:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5168#comment-202296 <p><i>23 · <b>KXB</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005168.html#comment202056">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>It would help matters if Rove got his facts straight. Yes, Bridget is Bangladeshi, but Mother Theresa did not run any orphanages there. But the idea is to mention McCain and Mother Theresa in the same article, to gloss over the fact that McCain was never much of a church-goer through most of his life. If we are reminiscing about McCain, how about his use of the term "gook"? Can't go there - there's probably more Rev. Wright videos we have not seen. </blockquote> <p>Actually there is a Mother Theresa orphanage in Dhaka, Bangladesh.</p> 23 · KXB said

It would help matters if Rove got his facts straight. Yes, Bridget is Bangladeshi, but Mother Theresa did not run any orphanages there. But the idea is to mention McCain and Mother Theresa in the same article, to gloss over the fact that McCain was never much of a church-goer through most of his life. If we are reminiscing about McCain, how about his use of the term “gook”? Can’t go there – there’s probably more Rev. Wright videos we have not seen.

Actually there is a Mother Theresa orphanage in Dhaka, Bangladesh.

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By: Jangali Jaanwar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/01/highlight_the_t/comment-page-2/#comment-202288 Jangali Jaanwar Sat, 03 May 2008 01:16:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5168#comment-202288 <p><i>52 · <b>Rahul</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005168.html#comment202215">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Not a novel notion, but the two-party system combined with an executive form of government leads to a disastrous paucity of views in the public sphere, and forces people like you who broadly identify as socially moderate (or liberal?) and fiscally conservative (I am assuming) to make the best of a bad combination.</blockquote> <p>That's accurate. If forced to put a name on it I'd say socially moderate (left on a couple of social issues mostly right on others and throw in a healthy dash of libertarian) and yes to the fiscal conservatism. I'd classify myself as a center-right dem who can identify with moderate repubs. I would also blame this primary system for creating a crucible where only two seemingly divergent views can exist. It forces alleged moderates or mavericks like Mccain to the right to placate or pander to a "base" and sends Obama and Clinton drifting farther and farther to the left. Part of me does wonder, however, whether having more than two established parties would bring a greater benefit. Would it end up like modern media where the multitude of voices screaming for attention prevent the development of any kind of consensus or at least a unifying idea to hold on to? At least with the party system as is, there is <i>some</i> filtering and prioritization of what the party thinks is good for the country rather than solely relying on what the special interests may want. I certainly wouldn't want a coalition gov't where the minority has the ability to prevent legislation that most of the country wants. (i.e. India nuclear deal).</p> <p>I'm sure that the Mccain's charity and warm hearts resulted in Bridget growing up to be a wonderful person. Additionally, I greatly respect and admire Sen. Mccain for his service, his sacrifice and his courage. I'd just hope he were smart enough not to use that as the only reason why he might make a good president. This election cycle has so many important issues that are at the forefront that I don't think too many Americans are going to simply rest their heads on he or she seems like a good guy or gal. Maybe it's just a case of SM's new favorite phrase: a soft bigotry of lowered expectations. Rove's lowered expectation that all Americans will care or can care about this cycle is a war record and a warm heart or in the dem's case beer-drinking, bowling scores and whether someone's african-american or a woman. Mccain and all of the candidates have an obligation to do better than that, especially where a lot of moderates or independents aren't overly excited with any of the candidates.</p> 52 · Rahul said

Not a novel notion, but the two-party system combined with an executive form of government leads to a disastrous paucity of views in the public sphere, and forces people like you who broadly identify as socially moderate (or liberal?) and fiscally conservative (I am assuming) to make the best of a bad combination.

That’s accurate. If forced to put a name on it I’d say socially moderate (left on a couple of social issues mostly right on others and throw in a healthy dash of libertarian) and yes to the fiscal conservatism. I’d classify myself as a center-right dem who can identify with moderate repubs. I would also blame this primary system for creating a crucible where only two seemingly divergent views can exist. It forces alleged moderates or mavericks like Mccain to the right to placate or pander to a “base” and sends Obama and Clinton drifting farther and farther to the left. Part of me does wonder, however, whether having more than two established parties would bring a greater benefit. Would it end up like modern media where the multitude of voices screaming for attention prevent the development of any kind of consensus or at least a unifying idea to hold on to? At least with the party system as is, there is some filtering and prioritization of what the party thinks is good for the country rather than solely relying on what the special interests may want. I certainly wouldn’t want a coalition gov’t where the minority has the ability to prevent legislation that most of the country wants. (i.e. India nuclear deal).

I’m sure that the Mccain’s charity and warm hearts resulted in Bridget growing up to be a wonderful person. Additionally, I greatly respect and admire Sen. Mccain for his service, his sacrifice and his courage. I’d just hope he were smart enough not to use that as the only reason why he might make a good president. This election cycle has so many important issues that are at the forefront that I don’t think too many Americans are going to simply rest their heads on he or she seems like a good guy or gal. Maybe it’s just a case of SM’s new favorite phrase: a soft bigotry of lowered expectations. Rove’s lowered expectation that all Americans will care or can care about this cycle is a war record and a warm heart or in the dem’s case beer-drinking, bowling scores and whether someone’s african-american or a woman. Mccain and all of the candidates have an obligation to do better than that, especially where a lot of moderates or independents aren’t overly excited with any of the candidates.

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By: gm http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/01/highlight_the_t/comment-page-2/#comment-202274 gm Fri, 02 May 2008 22:36:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5168#comment-202274 <p>McCain, his wife and his family are good role models. He and his wife saved the life of a child and is not making a big deal or seeking publicity for it. I think he is handling his presidential campaign very ethically and with dignity.</p> McCain, his wife and his family are good role models. He and his wife saved the life of a child and is not making a big deal or seeking publicity for it. I think he is handling his presidential campaign very ethically and with dignity.

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/01/highlight_the_t/comment-page-2/#comment-202215 Rahul Fri, 02 May 2008 15:59:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5168#comment-202215 <blockquote>I just don't see how that's possible where moderate repubs. no longer recognize their own party.</blockquote> <p>At least us dems have been consistently self-destructive for a long time now, even when we should actually :-)</p> <p>Not a novel notion, but the two-party system combined with an executive form of government leads to a disastrous paucity of views in the public sphere, and forces people like you who broadly identify as socially moderate (or liberal?) and fiscally conservative (I am assuming) to make the best of a bad combination.</p> I just don’t see how that’s possible where moderate repubs. no longer recognize their own party.

At least us dems have been consistently self-destructive for a long time now, even when we should actually :-)

Not a novel notion, but the two-party system combined with an executive form of government leads to a disastrous paucity of views in the public sphere, and forces people like you who broadly identify as socially moderate (or liberal?) and fiscally conservative (I am assuming) to make the best of a bad combination.

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By: Jangali Jaanwar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/01/highlight_the_t/comment-page-2/#comment-202210 Jangali Jaanwar Fri, 02 May 2008 15:18:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5168#comment-202210 <p><i>50 · <b>Rahul</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005168.html#comment202208">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>I forgave McCain when he gave a commencement address for an agent of intolerance. I forgave McCain when he claimed to be a foe of lobbyists. I forgave McCain when he walked in a flak jacket, surrounded by Iraqi army brigades and helicopters through an Iraqi market, and claimed parts of Baghdad were just fine. I forgave McCain when he voted for torture. I forgave McCain when he lied/misspoke that Shia Iran was in cahoots with Sunni Al-Qaeda. I forgave McCain when he lied/misspoke again that Shia Iran was in cahoots in Sunni Al-Qaeda.</blockquote> <p>All of this has me asking Sen. Mccain<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU7LZts87Zg">"say it ain't so"</a>. Between, Hill's Tuzla two-step and Obama's inability to conclude his oratorical fireworks without a crescendo has me wondering if it's just another election season where I'm choosing between the lesser of three evils.</p> <p>As for Rove's advice, I doubt Mccain would follow it. He's been reluctant to speak about his son who served in Iraq or put his children out there. I think this is just one of Palpatine's Jedi mind tricks. Most adult males would discredit anyone who stoops so low to throw their kids out into the spotlight simply for their own gain. Palpatine probably wants Mccain to do it since he wants to make someone look worse than G dub right now. (I just don't see how that's possible where moderate repubs. no longer recognize their own party.)</p> 50 · Rahul said

I forgave McCain when he gave a commencement address for an agent of intolerance. I forgave McCain when he claimed to be a foe of lobbyists. I forgave McCain when he walked in a flak jacket, surrounded by Iraqi army brigades and helicopters through an Iraqi market, and claimed parts of Baghdad were just fine. I forgave McCain when he voted for torture. I forgave McCain when he lied/misspoke that Shia Iran was in cahoots with Sunni Al-Qaeda. I forgave McCain when he lied/misspoke again that Shia Iran was in cahoots in Sunni Al-Qaeda.

All of this has me asking Sen. Mccain“say it ain’t so”. Between, Hill’s Tuzla two-step and Obama’s inability to conclude his oratorical fireworks without a crescendo has me wondering if it’s just another election season where I’m choosing between the lesser of three evils.

As for Rove’s advice, I doubt Mccain would follow it. He’s been reluctant to speak about his son who served in Iraq or put his children out there. I think this is just one of Palpatine’s Jedi mind tricks. Most adult males would discredit anyone who stoops so low to throw their kids out into the spotlight simply for their own gain. Palpatine probably wants Mccain to do it since he wants to make someone look worse than G dub right now. (I just don’t see how that’s possible where moderate repubs. no longer recognize their own party.)

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/01/highlight_the_t/comment-page-1/#comment-202208 Rahul Fri, 02 May 2008 14:54:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5168#comment-202208 <p>I forgave McCain when he <a href="http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/6988.html">gave a commencement address for an agent of intolerance</a>. I forgave McCain when he claimed to be <a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200802260009">a foe of lobbyists</a>. I forgave McCain when he walked in a flak jacket, surrounded by Iraqi army brigades and helicopters through an Iraqi market, and <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/01/mccain-iraq-stroll/">claimed parts of Baghdad were just fine</a>. I forgave McCain when he <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/17/us/politics/17torture.html?ref=politics">voted for torture</a>. I forgave McCain when he <a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200803180007">lied/misspoke that Shia Iran was in cahoots with Sunni Al-Qaeda</a>. I forgave McCain when he <a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200803180007">lied/misspoke again that Shia Iran was in cahoots in Sunni Al-Qaeda</a>.</p> <p>But now, <a href="http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0508/McCain_tweaks_Tom_Friedman_.html">he calls Tom Friedman an economist</a>??? <b>This</b>, my friend (as McCain likes to say), is truly the last straw!</p> I forgave McCain when he gave a commencement address for an agent of intolerance. I forgave McCain when he claimed to be a foe of lobbyists. I forgave McCain when he walked in a flak jacket, surrounded by Iraqi army brigades and helicopters through an Iraqi market, and claimed parts of Baghdad were just fine. I forgave McCain when he voted for torture. I forgave McCain when he lied/misspoke that Shia Iran was in cahoots with Sunni Al-Qaeda. I forgave McCain when he lied/misspoke again that Shia Iran was in cahoots in Sunni Al-Qaeda.

But now, he calls Tom Friedman an economist??? This, my friend (as McCain likes to say), is truly the last straw!

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By: bengali http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/01/highlight_the_t/comment-page-1/#comment-202200 bengali Fri, 02 May 2008 09:06:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5168#comment-202200 <p>haha There is a picture on McCain's eldest daughter, Meghan's, <a href="http://www.mccainblogette.com/">blog</a> that is captioned <a href="http://www.mccainblogette.com/docs/postings/042908/01_full.jpg ">"While catching up with my friend from New York, Navarone, this random guy busted in on our picture."</a> Well the random guy is none other than our very own <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/003855.html">Hustler</a>. Still up to his same antics..</p> haha There is a picture on McCain’s eldest daughter, Meghan’s, blog that is captioned “While catching up with my friend from New York, Navarone, this random guy busted in on our picture.” Well the random guy is none other than our very own Hustler. Still up to his same antics..

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By: cookiebrown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/05/01/highlight_the_t/comment-page-1/#comment-202195 cookiebrown Fri, 02 May 2008 06:08:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5168#comment-202195 <p>There was absolutely no reason to post this picture and comment.</p> There was absolutely no reason to post this picture and comment.

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