well that understandable … when u read the Malocom X rahimaho Allah u will see clearly the affect on him cause of Hajj .. from a black racial to Islam ,,,

i notice some one talking about Wahabi … is following Mushammad peace be upon him Wahhabi … and there is no shia where u said they are Rafidah ( Ethna Ashryah) small villages in the east and Bahrain Kwait actualy Muslims in Iran more in population (Ahl alsunnah ) in Ahwaz the other side in the Arabic gulf ,,,, so no need to lie to muslims ,,, and Rafidah known well all muslims sow what they do to Muslims in Iraq ,,,

about driving and Hijaz ,,,, insha Allah u need to know that they is no driving for women in Saudi … do u mind if we see that is good for our community ? or that is the measurment of advance for u

i wonder if adultry in anme of Zawaj Almuttaah ( marraige for houres) is more the good measurment about civilizing ,,, or hitting kids and women also men with sowrds in Ashuraa then cover them with blood is this showing open minded … is that Islam ?!!!!

Subhan Allah ,,, may Allah guide us to the right path

Seriously Boston_Mahesh, chill a bit

I apologize if I’ve offended anyone. I love all peoples in the world, but some times, it hurts me when I read about suppression/humiliation from repressed communities (i.e. Palestinian, European Jews in ’40, Sikhs during Aurangzeb, Hindus in Singapore/UAE, etc.) My point in bringing this ancient custom up was to raise awareness, and perhaps reverse/nullify/erase this passage. Hinduism can do without this, I feel, and they could consider revoking this passage, in much the same way that Americans revoke passages in the Constitution. To the extent that I hurt some feelings or seemed to aggressive, I’m truly sorry.

I met a Brahmin ABD who, in a bragging tone of voice, told me that the only people allowed in ancient Mughal-era temples were Brahmins and Muslim musicians. I can’t find info on this, but I do know for a fact that Hindus are *NOT* accepting of people accepting their faith, unless the recent convert is photogenic with light-colored skin. Oh yeah, a “true” Hindu must pour moulten lead down the ears of Sudras if they listen to slokas (and keep in mind that all “Patels”, Jatts, and in general 90% of Hindus are Sudras). Moulten lead? Some Brahmin is probably thinking “that’s a lot of money!”.

Wow. Is it just me or is boston_mahesh trolling pretty heavily, even if unintentionally? You can’t find any info but you KNOW for a FACT, huh? Wow, you must be really smart or something. Paging SM Intern…

Lurker,

“Sravanadhyayanarthapratishedhat smritescha I.3.38 (101)

And on account of the prohibition in Smriti of (the Sudras) hearing, studying and understanding (the Veda) and performing Vedic rites (they are not entitled to the knowledge of Brahman).

Sravana: hearing; Adhyayana: studying; Artha: understanding; Pratishedhat: on account of the prohibition; Smriteh: in the Smriti; Cha: and.

The same discussion on the Sudras’ right is concluded here.

The Smriti prohibits their hearing the Veda, their studying and understanding the Veda and their performing Vedic rites. “The ears of him who hears the Veda are to be filled with molten lead and lac.” For a Sudra is like a cemetery. Therefore the Veda is not to be read in the vicinity of a Sudra. “His tongue is to be slit if he pronounces it; his body is to be cut through if he preserves it.” Sudras like Vidura and the religious hunter Dharma Vyadha acquired knowledge owing to the after effects of former deeds in past births. It is possible for the Sudras to attain that knowledge through the Puranas, Gita and the epics, Ramayana and Mahabharata which contain the quintessence of the Vedas.”

This terror plagued passage can be found here.

So please notify the SM Intern and all the other SM volunteers. Please don’t stop there, my friend. Raise awareness of this horror, and perhaps, we, together, can nullify/eradicate/erase/reverse this shame. Hopefully, no more of God’s children will have to suffer due to this superstitious belief.

rob:

Yeah, Mecca is a great place to do that–they’re so welcoming to anyone. People of other faiths are officially forbidden from entering the city

Yeah right, so do hindus welcome non-hindu mlecchas into their temples? Heck even hindus of the wrong caste arent welcome. Orthodox muslims are far more egalitarian than orthodox hindus. Anyone can convert to Islam and go on Hajj to Mecca.

So how many Hindu temples will kill a non-Hindu for entering?

Moulten lead? Some Brahmin is probably thinking “that’s a lot of money!”.

Erudite indeed.

Wow. Is it just me or is boston_mahesh trolling pretty heavily, even if unintentionally? You can’t find any info but you KNOW for a FACT, huh? Wow, you must be really smart or something. Paging SM Intern…

No worries. I only pointed it out because you’re normally not like that

im sure OBL didn’t go to hajj expecting to be humbled by God, he thinks he is God.

Which means he’s turned Hindu? Aham Brahmasmi!!

M. Nam