Comments on: On Getting a Tan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/04/08/on_getting_a_ta/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/04/08/on_getting_a_ta/comment-page-4/#comment-199641 HMF Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:49:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5126#comment-199641 <p><i>;=) antibiotics cures gonorrhea. eventually.</i></p> <p>What kind of smiley face is that? Is your commitment to morbidity that strict?</p> ;=) antibiotics cures gonorrhea. eventually.

What kind of smiley face is that? Is your commitment to morbidity that strict?

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By: DJ Drrrty Poonjabi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/04/08/on_getting_a_ta/comment-page-4/#comment-199561 DJ Drrrty Poonjabi Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:53:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5126#comment-199561 <blockquote>(Though those artists, I think rightly, might try to distance themselves from the overproduced synthesized rubbish that passes for R&B by calling their genre "soul.")</blockquote> <p>Two words: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCYiYgn1XWY&feature=related">Zapp & Roger</a>.</p> (Though those artists, I think rightly, might try to distance themselves from the overproduced synthesized rubbish that passes for R&B by calling their genre “soul.”)

Two words: Zapp & Roger.

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By: HighLatitude http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/04/08/on_getting_a_ta/comment-page-4/#comment-199554 HighLatitude Sat, 12 Apr 2008 08:02:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5126#comment-199554 <p>SP,</p> <p>The figure you quote of 20 minutes/day of sun on the hands and face at midsummer is for people with skin who is not UV tolerant (generally, people with light skin). Someone with UV tolerant skin can require hours of sun exposure to get the same Vitamin D production.</p> <p>Moreover, it is virtually impossible to obtain sufficient Vitamin D from diet alone. Fortified milk is enough to prevent rickets in children over the winter months, but to match the production of Vitamin D from summer sunshine means ingesting prescription supplements.</p> <p>Read more <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_D#Groups_at_greater_risk_of_deficiency">here</a> (with citations and everything).</p> SP,

The figure you quote of 20 minutes/day of sun on the hands and face at midsummer is for people with skin who is not UV tolerant (generally, people with light skin). Someone with UV tolerant skin can require hours of sun exposure to get the same Vitamin D production.

Moreover, it is virtually impossible to obtain sufficient Vitamin D from diet alone. Fortified milk is enough to prevent rickets in children over the winter months, but to match the production of Vitamin D from summer sunshine means ingesting prescription supplements.

Read more here (with citations and everything).

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By: Harbeer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/04/08/on_getting_a_ta/comment-page-4/#comment-199445 Harbeer Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:36:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5126#comment-199445 <p><i>89 · <b><a href="mailto:suki1328@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">Suki Dillon</a></b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005126.html#comment199024">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>I just don't understand if you embrace the black culture that it's Ok and cool thing to do, but if you become a metal head or Alt-rocker type you are called whitewashed or sellout.</blockquote> <p>But if you're into both styles there's always <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004947.html#comment187224"><i>Judgment Night</i></a>. (Oh, the stories I could tell you about having all my Anthrax and Metallica tapes stolen from me at Sikh Youth Camp by NWA rocking idiots who'd never heard of Paris or YZ.)</p> <p><b>Kulvir @ #148</b>, though--sorry, call me insensitive but most <a href="http://www.asklyrics.com/display/De_La_Soul/3_Days_Later_Lyrics/129420.htm">contemporary R&B blows</a> ("check Ralph Tresvant for sensitivity"), and it has for going on 30 years. I say "most" because I'll make an exception for Prince, Sharon Jones, Jill Scott, D'Angelo, Eryka Badu, and yes, even Amy Winehouse. (Though those artists, I think rightly, might try to distance themselves from the overproduced synthesized rubbish that passes for R&B by calling their genre "soul.") <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Jam_and_Terry_Lewis">Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis</a> and cheap synthesizers almost ruined a style of music made great by the likes of Marvin Gaye, The O'Jays, Otis Redding, Nina Simone, Aretha Franklin, etc.</p> <p>Also, it's nice to make your acquaintance, Deemz.</p> 89 · Suki Dillon said

I just don’t understand if you embrace the black culture that it’s Ok and cool thing to do, but if you become a metal head or Alt-rocker type you are called whitewashed or sellout.

But if you’re into both styles there’s always Judgment Night. (Oh, the stories I could tell you about having all my Anthrax and Metallica tapes stolen from me at Sikh Youth Camp by NWA rocking idiots who’d never heard of Paris or YZ.)

Kulvir @ #148, though–sorry, call me insensitive but most contemporary R&B blows (“check Ralph Tresvant for sensitivity”), and it has for going on 30 years. I say “most” because I’ll make an exception for Prince, Sharon Jones, Jill Scott, D’Angelo, Eryka Badu, and yes, even Amy Winehouse. (Though those artists, I think rightly, might try to distance themselves from the overproduced synthesized rubbish that passes for R&B by calling their genre “soul.”) Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis and cheap synthesizers almost ruined a style of music made great by the likes of Marvin Gaye, The O’Jays, Otis Redding, Nina Simone, Aretha Franklin, etc.

Also, it’s nice to make your acquaintance, Deemz.

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By: Harbeer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/04/08/on_getting_a_ta/comment-page-4/#comment-199439 Harbeer Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:07:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5126#comment-199439 <p><i>133 · <b>Amitabh</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005126.html#comment199194">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Whites are not the root cause of all evil in America</blockquote> <p>Fine, I'll take the bait. You're wrong, "whites" <b>are</b> the root cause of all evil in America, because "white" is shorthand for the vested, power-bearing elite in America. I am making a distinction, now, between "Anglo-American," "Irish American," "Italian-American," "Polish-American," "Scandanavian-American," "Jewish-American," etc., and "<b>white</b>."</p> <p>Race is a social construct. There is no "white" race. A people are "non-white" as long as they are marginalized. When a "race" doffs its hyphen and graduates to "white" (i.e. a deracinated state), that means they have become assimilated into the mainstream power-structure which is indeed the root of <B>ALL EVIL</B>. Now that the <a href="http://americanhistory.si.edu/brown/history/1-segregated/images/kkk-robe-l.jpg">white hoods</a> have deemed us safe and non-threatening, East Asians and Desis, in my opinion, are well on their way to achieving "whitehood" in America.</p> <p>Disclaimer: I am exaggerating and simplifying for rhetorical effect because I think my point would be lost without that exaggeration. Carry on.</p> 133 · Amitabh said

Whites are not the root cause of all evil in America

Fine, I’ll take the bait. You’re wrong, “whites” are the root cause of all evil in America, because “white” is shorthand for the vested, power-bearing elite in America. I am making a distinction, now, between “Anglo-American,” “Irish American,” “Italian-American,” “Polish-American,” “Scandanavian-American,” “Jewish-American,” etc., and “white.”

Race is a social construct. There is no “white” race. A people are “non-white” as long as they are marginalized. When a “race” doffs its hyphen and graduates to “white” (i.e. a deracinated state), that means they have become assimilated into the mainstream power-structure which is indeed the root of ALL EVIL. Now that the white hoods have deemed us safe and non-threatening, East Asians and Desis, in my opinion, are well on their way to achieving “whitehood” in America.

Disclaimer: I am exaggerating and simplifying for rhetorical effect because I think my point would be lost without that exaggeration. Carry on.

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By: on the beach http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/04/08/on_getting_a_ta/comment-page-4/#comment-199425 on the beach Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:40:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5126#comment-199425 <p>"Although they may be cloaked in the language of healthism, efforts to demonize fatness are deeply rooted in the sociopolitical power relations of patriarchy, capitalism, and white supremacy." While I'm not an expert on size-ism, the Europeans really used to like fattish women. Look at some of those old paintings. Veritable celebrations of cellulite. I think we may have to look around further and deeper for the Thin Oppressor. I think it all goes back to what looks good on the beach.</p> “Although they may be cloaked in the language of healthism, efforts to demonize fatness are deeply rooted in the sociopolitical power relations of patriarchy, capitalism, and white supremacy.” While I’m not an expert on size-ism, the Europeans really used to like fattish women. Look at some of those old paintings. Veritable celebrations of cellulite. I think we may have to look around further and deeper for the Thin Oppressor. I think it all goes back to what looks good on the beach.

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By: bess http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/04/08/on_getting_a_ta/comment-page-4/#comment-199396 bess Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:59:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5126#comment-199396 <p>Meena, thanks for your thoughtful comments. Personally, I think fatness is alterable just as our thinking on it is. What I find unattainable about our beauty ideal is that it's embodied in an <a href="http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2006/10/mariannenew_228x745.jpg">emaciated ectomorph</a> slinking down the catwalk. How many women fit that ideal? How healthy is that physical state? I'm guessing the BMI is nil.</p> <p>As an aside, where I come from "PSA" means public service announcement, but I hear in the medical community it means something entirely other.</p> Meena, thanks for your thoughtful comments. Personally, I think fatness is alterable just as our thinking on it is. What I find unattainable about our beauty ideal is that it’s embodied in an emaciated ectomorph slinking down the catwalk. How many women fit that ideal? How healthy is that physical state? I’m guessing the BMI is nil.

As an aside, where I come from “PSA” means public service announcement, but I hear in the medical community it means something entirely other.

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By: Meena http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/04/08/on_getting_a_ta/comment-page-4/#comment-199369 Meena Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:19:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5126#comment-199369 <blockquote>Although they may be cloaked in the language of healthism, efforts to demonize fatness are deeply rooted in the sociopolitical power relations of patriarchy, capitalism, and white supremacy.</blockquote> <p>Btw, I'm sorry, but I'm a terrible person, and this made me laugh! You sound like a parody of yourself and some of the more vocal anti-oppression commentators here. Oh noes, the White Scientists are trying to subject Brown People by spreading lies about their increased susceptibility to obesity and Type II Diabetes!!</p> Although they may be cloaked in the language of healthism, efforts to demonize fatness are deeply rooted in the sociopolitical power relations of patriarchy, capitalism, and white supremacy.

Btw, I’m sorry, but I’m a terrible person, and this made me laugh! You sound like a parody of yourself and some of the more vocal anti-oppression commentators here. Oh noes, the White Scientists are trying to subject Brown People by spreading lies about their increased susceptibility to obesity and Type II Diabetes!!

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By: Meena http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/04/08/on_getting_a_ta/comment-page-4/#comment-199366 Meena Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:17:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5126#comment-199366 <p>SP: what is PSA?</p> <p>Areem: Where are your statistics? I've only read evidence contrarian to that what you post. Have you read the Scientific American special on Famine and the Obesity Epidemic?</p> SP: what is PSA?

Areem: Where are your statistics? I’ve only read evidence contrarian to that what you post. Have you read the Scientific American special on Famine and the Obesity Epidemic?

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By: rujoking http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/04/08/on_getting_a_ta/comment-page-4/#comment-199361 rujoking Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:30:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5126#comment-199361 <p>areem i think you're confusing pudge with obesity. there are obviously people of all body types, and being chastised for being naturally chubby or "fat" is not fair - not everyone can metabolize food the same way. but the obesity epidemic is very real - there is no excuse for little children to get type II diabetes or lose their breath from walking up a short flight of stairs. for a naturally "fat" person the whole campaign against obesity can be hurtful if internalized but you should realize that it's not about the people who are living normal healthy lives. it's to target the 400 lb guy washing down 5 burgers with a super-disgusting-triple-sized big gulp.</p> areem i think you’re confusing pudge with obesity. there are obviously people of all body types, and being chastised for being naturally chubby or “fat” is not fair – not everyone can metabolize food the same way. but the obesity epidemic is very real – there is no excuse for little children to get type II diabetes or lose their breath from walking up a short flight of stairs. for a naturally “fat” person the whole campaign against obesity can be hurtful if internalized but you should realize that it’s not about the people who are living normal healthy lives. it’s to target the 400 lb guy washing down 5 burgers with a super-disgusting-triple-sized big gulp.

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