Comments on: Has the Tiger been leashed by the Dragon? http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/19/has_the_tiger_b/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: sakshi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/19/has_the_tiger_b/comment-page-2/#comment-197689 sakshi Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:37:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5099#comment-197689 <blockquote>Thanks for pointing to the disgusting hypocrisy of the Hindu newspaper on the tibet issue. In the last five years, they havent printed a single article on the chinese destruction of tibetan culture or anything like that at all. Most of their coverage on China sounds like it is translated from Chinese govt reports. At the same time these folks want to pretend that they are progressives and every third editorial is a condemnation of the western powers (often deserved, but where is the balance in all of this?). </blockquote> <p>I remember reading articles in Frontline praising the worker's paradise that North Korea is. These guys are beyond ridiculous. But I am curious if there's any evidence out there that the communist parties are arm-twisting Congress on this issue. I won't be surprised if the Congress didn't need any arm-twisting.</p> Thanks for pointing to the disgusting hypocrisy of the Hindu newspaper on the tibet issue. In the last five years, they havent printed a single article on the chinese destruction of tibetan culture or anything like that at all. Most of their coverage on China sounds like it is translated from Chinese govt reports. At the same time these folks want to pretend that they are progressives and every third editorial is a condemnation of the western powers (often deserved, but where is the balance in all of this?).

I remember reading articles in Frontline praising the worker’s paradise that North Korea is. These guys are beyond ridiculous. But I am curious if there’s any evidence out there that the communist parties are arm-twisting Congress on this issue. I won’t be surprised if the Congress didn’t need any arm-twisting.

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By: delurker http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/19/has_the_tiger_b/comment-page-2/#comment-197629 delurker Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:17:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5099#comment-197629 <p>Beijing must be happy to know it has legions of communist lickspittles in Kolkata and elsewhere to come so vigorously in defense of its policy of killing Tibetans.</p> Beijing must be happy to know it has legions of communist lickspittles in Kolkata and elsewhere to come so vigorously in defense of its policy of killing Tibetans.

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By: vishal http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/19/has_the_tiger_b/comment-page-2/#comment-197589 vishal Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:24:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5099#comment-197589 <p>Kush@41 :</p> <blockquote>the Indian government also is struggling with the fact that many Tibetans here, especially youths, have grown increasingly militant in favor of independence for their homeland. The Dalai Lama, however, endorses greater autonomy for Tibet under Chinese suzerainty</blockquote> <p>How scary it is for India to have so many disgruntled youth , especially the ones who feel they don't belong to India. What happens if the Dalai lama's influence wanes & theres still no deal ?</p> Kush@41 :

the Indian government also is struggling with the fact that many Tibetans here, especially youths, have grown increasingly militant in favor of independence for their homeland. The Dalai Lama, however, endorses greater autonomy for Tibet under Chinese suzerainty

How scary it is for India to have so many disgruntled youth , especially the ones who feel they don’t belong to India. What happens if the Dalai lama’s influence wanes & theres still no deal ?

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By: brown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/19/has_the_tiger_b/comment-page-2/#comment-197574 brown Fri, 21 Mar 2008 11:37:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5099#comment-197574 <p>india is a chickensh*t country. read jug suraiya's article from the link below:</p> <p>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/From_Taslima_to_Tibet_India_proves_chicken/articleshow/2885952.cms</p> india is a chickensh*t country. read jug suraiya’s article from the link below:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/From_Taslima_to_Tibet_India_proves_chicken/articleshow/2885952.cms

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By: thetrickman http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/19/has_the_tiger_b/comment-page-2/#comment-197567 thetrickman Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:07:02 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5099#comment-197567 <p>The Indian Government doesn't care about Tibet.</p> The Indian Government doesn’t care about Tibet.

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By: morgan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/19/has_the_tiger_b/comment-page-2/#comment-197554 morgan Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:18:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5099#comment-197554 <p>As an Anglo-Indian, born, bred and educated through the system of the RAJ..I understand the imperialistic attitude of China, lets follow Britians lead and abuse every one and everything as nobody will say or do anything to stop us, if by chance they do it will only be of Lip service..nothing that cannot be handled.</p> <p>When will we learn, look at what the Nazi's did..nobody said or did anything till it was too late. Countries invaded, cultures destroyed, genocide practised, All it takes is for one to stand up and be recognized..at this point in time it's Tibets turn..she will be decimated and her people scattered..but she will prevail. we should all hold our heads down in disgust at what we have let China get away with. Yes all countries have their skeletons in the closets, but none so blatant as China.</p> <p>I am 10 years old and wonder what the world will be like..When China does become a superpower..</p> As an Anglo-Indian, born, bred and educated through the system of the RAJ..I understand the imperialistic attitude of China, lets follow Britians lead and abuse every one and everything as nobody will say or do anything to stop us, if by chance they do it will only be of Lip service..nothing that cannot be handled.

When will we learn, look at what the Nazi’s did..nobody said or did anything till it was too late. Countries invaded, cultures destroyed, genocide practised, All it takes is for one to stand up and be recognized..at this point in time it’s Tibets turn..she will be decimated and her people scattered..but she will prevail. we should all hold our heads down in disgust at what we have let China get away with. Yes all countries have their skeletons in the closets, but none so blatant as China.

I am 10 years old and wonder what the world will be like..When China does become a superpower..

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By: non-sequitur http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/19/has_the_tiger_b/comment-page-2/#comment-197548 non-sequitur Thu, 20 Mar 2008 23:45:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5099#comment-197548 <p>I doubt this is in anyway spineless behavior by GoI but rather an incredibly clever ploy to rack up medals in the Olympics, now that our lone hope (hockey) is sadly <a href="http://www.sportstaronnet.com/stories/20080322500600400.htm">out of the picture</a>. Richard Gere, that beacon of political strategery and insight, <a href="http://uk.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUKN1444309320080317"> is sabre rattling a way for this to materialize</a>. I say that we Indian patriots support this genius and fan the flames of this boycott cry.</p> I doubt this is in anyway spineless behavior by GoI but rather an incredibly clever ploy to rack up medals in the Olympics, now that our lone hope (hockey) is sadly out of the picture. Richard Gere, that beacon of political strategery and insight, is sabre rattling a way for this to materialize. I say that we Indian patriots support this genius and fan the flames of this boycott cry.

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By: lion http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/19/has_the_tiger_b/comment-page-2/#comment-197537 lion Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:01:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5099#comment-197537 <p><i>56 · <b>Vyasa</b><i> Sumit Ganguly is seriously delusional (typical of his kind). India is not a great power by any measure. It certainly is no match for China. India behaves in a "subservient fashion" towards China because it was taught a humiliating lesson by the chinese PLA the last time its clueless leaders (Nehru et al) tried to show some spine.</p> <p>India needs to first "stand up and defend certain inalienable rights" of the majority of its own citizens who live in conditions that any tibetan or chinese would find deplorable and dehumanizing, before it lectures other nations on human rights.</p> <p>As for the equivalency between India's stranglehold over Kashmir to China's over Tibet, a better comparison is India's rule over the tibeto-burmese northeastern states. Its sheer hypocrisy to condemn China over Tibet but give India a pass over its own occupation of the northeastern states. </blockquote></i></p> <p>India is in the process of becoming a great power. All things considered it's development track as a nation is following a normal pattern after independence. The next 20 years of it's progress will focus on infrastructure particularly in areas of governmental efficiency and transportation. As for it's geo-political standing in the world, slowly it's gaining a weight of importance.</p> <p>India and China probably will have major conflicts in 2040-60.</p> 56 · Vyasa Sumit Ganguly is seriously delusional (typical of his kind). India is not a great power by any measure. It certainly is no match for China. India behaves in a “subservient fashion” towards China because it was taught a humiliating lesson by the chinese PLA the last time its clueless leaders (Nehru et al) tried to show some spine.

India needs to first “stand up and defend certain inalienable rights” of the majority of its own citizens who live in conditions that any tibetan or chinese would find deplorable and dehumanizing, before it lectures other nations on human rights.

As for the equivalency between India’s stranglehold over Kashmir to China’s over Tibet, a better comparison is India’s rule over the tibeto-burmese northeastern states. Its sheer hypocrisy to condemn China over Tibet but give India a pass over its own occupation of the northeastern states.

India is in the process of becoming a great power. All things considered it’s development track as a nation is following a normal pattern after independence. The next 20 years of it’s progress will focus on infrastructure particularly in areas of governmental efficiency and transportation. As for it’s geo-political standing in the world, slowly it’s gaining a weight of importance.

India and China probably will have major conflicts in 2040-60.

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By: Boodlight http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/19/has_the_tiger_b/comment-page-2/#comment-197529 Boodlight Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:12:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5099#comment-197529 <p><i>58 · <B>Vyasa</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005099.html#comment197525">said</a></i></p> <p><</p> <p>blockquote>no. they died, or we killed them. Who is this "we" Razib? Since when did you become a white european? Its amusing to see a colored immigrant like you identify with the whites who did those things to the natives americans :)</p> <p>This is a good topic of discussion. What is the relationship of the Indian immigrant who swears fealty to the nation founded by the original settlers? Can he reject the sins of the original settlers yet share in the fruits of their toil?</p> 58 · Vyasa said

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blockquote>no. they died, or we killed them. Who is this “we” Razib? Since when did you become a white european? Its amusing to see a colored immigrant like you identify with the whites who did those things to the natives americans :)

This is a good topic of discussion. What is the relationship of the Indian immigrant who swears fealty to the nation founded by the original settlers? Can he reject the sins of the original settlers yet share in the fruits of their toil?

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By: Jing http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/19/has_the_tiger_b/comment-page-2/#comment-197527 Jing Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:07:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5099#comment-197527 <p>I'm not Prem. Carry on.</p> I’m not Prem. Carry on.

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