Yes. I go to China every 3 weeks and worked in Xi’an, Chengdu, Shenzhen, Suzhou. Not that this is relevant in any way to your baseless rebuttal.

Since you are so familiar with Chinese and British nationalism, have you visted Tsinghua, Fudan, Oxford and Cambridge? I have. No one in their right mind would compare the IITs and even less Roorkee with the top-ranked universities in the UK and China. Go take a look at the equipment in their labs for one.

I think you’re a troll. A pseudo-intellectual who spouts half-cooked opinions on the net. Get a life, seriously.

I agree with your general sentiment, but what you write above is unmitigated nonsense. Have you read a chinese or mexican message board recently for heaven’s sake, or talked to an average chinese national? Indians do not have a monopoly on nationalism or national pride (the chinese are probably way more nationalistic than Indians–you may say with some justification–but that is beside the point; there are papers being written on the high levels of nationalism and pride among chinese, one incidentally by a very close friend of mine who also happens to be a chinese citizen. part of his research concerns “nationalism in the net”). Hell bbc bursts with pride when a single brit makes it big in america (its actually somewhat of a joke among non-nationalist brits). criticism of the kind you offer is very good, but applies to almost all nationalities. I ‘m sorry to be somewhat rude, but unreflective generalizations without bases in facts are a pet peeve of mine.

We try to play up all things Indian (and even vaguely Indian like Sunita Williams) these days. The Indian education system stinks and gigantic queues of code coolies that line up for H1B visas is a symptom of that.

Now there’s gonna be a smart aleck on this board who will point out the illustrious IIT-ians who have made it big in the US. Gupta, Jain, Patil, rah rah rah….let’s get talking about the other 250,000 who crunch code and kiss middle management arse for a living.

Let’s get realistic people and face India’s deficiencies head-on for once. I don’t see Mexicans and Chinese people raving about their countries like we do. And, for anyone who’s been to Shanghai, Beijing, Mexico City and a million other places there knows, they are 50 years ahead of us in so many ways.

I think the latter is changing now, at least for students who want to pursue a technical career, because students are encouraged to take up summer research internships in American/European universities and labs where they are exposed to a different culture and working style, which I think is very helpful, and also because there is some hiring of US returned alums as professors, so they bring an interest in research and a more egalitarian student interaction back with them.

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[semi-rant: sorry SM Intern] Oh! The curse of that! Any published author’s contact is no longer safe from recieving ridiculous emails which got nothing to do with nothing! I always thought that students from IITs are savvy enough to know about applying internships at American/European universities based on their awareness about graduate school applications. Apparently not…

I hope IITs provide some guidance/training to their students on this before making the internship a part of the degree requirement. Otherwise, some universities might change their spam filters.