Comments on: Shhhhhhhhhhhh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/07/shhhhhhhhhhhh/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Girish http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/07/shhhhhhhhhhhh/comment-page-1/#comment-196521 Girish Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:41:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5080#comment-196521 <blockquote> Five hundred years from now, an Indian Hindu visiting America will exclaim: <i>You guys do WHAT during Diwali?!!</i> </blockquote> <p>Ahh..We dress up in Saffron colored costumes,Drink Kingfisher,dance to Punjabi remix and we do this Indian Restaurant Hop in this shuttle called <a href="http://www.cavanaughsrestaurant.com/eventErinExp.asp"> Sarin Express </a></p> Five hundred years from now, an Indian Hindu visiting America will exclaim: You guys do WHAT during Diwali?!!

Ahh..We dress up in Saffron colored costumes,Drink Kingfisher,dance to Punjabi remix and we do this Indian Restaurant Hop in this shuttle called Sarin Express

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By: Gruhasthu http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/07/shhhhhhhhhhhh/comment-page-1/#comment-196504 Gruhasthu Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:27:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5080#comment-196504 <p><i>12 · <B><A href="mailto:moornam@yahoo.com" rel=nofollow>MoorNam</A></B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005080.html#comment196489">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Five hundred years from now, an Indian Hindu visiting America will exclaim: You guys do WHAT during Diwali?!!</blockquote> <p>I sincerely hope that the flow of folks between India and America continues for a long time and prevents the scenario you outline above from ever coming true.</p> 12 · MoorNam said

Five hundred years from now, an Indian Hindu visiting America will exclaim: You guys do WHAT during Diwali?!!

I sincerely hope that the flow of folks between India and America continues for a long time and prevents the scenario you outline above from ever coming true.

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By: Gruhasthu http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/07/shhhhhhhhhhhh/comment-page-1/#comment-196503 Gruhasthu Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:22:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5080#comment-196503 <p><i>11 · <B>Curious</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005080.html#comment196420">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>So I'm curious about all those people who are so thrilled with this idea. How do you feel about Islamic religious police?</blockquote> <p>We are thrilled about 'our' religious police gagging the other guy, and would obviously hate the other guy's religious police who would want to gag us. What kind of naive question is that? You need to work more to get your head wrapped around this religious thinking thing.</p> 11 · Curious said

So I’m curious about all those people who are so thrilled with this idea. How do you feel about Islamic religious police?

We are thrilled about ‘our’ religious police gagging the other guy, and would obviously hate the other guy’s religious police who would want to gag us. What kind of naive question is that? You need to work more to get your head wrapped around this religious thinking thing.

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By: MoorNam http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/07/shhhhhhhhhhhh/comment-page-1/#comment-196489 MoorNam Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:34:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5080#comment-196489 <blockquote> <blockquote> <p><i>On this day ...Hindus here will not cook, <b>work</b>, travel or <b>indulge in sex </b>in a collective attempt to <b>purify </b></i></p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Sounds more like Buddhism to me. It's interesting to observe how different varieties of Hinduism in the diaspora "freeze" at the state they were when they reached the shores. The above mentioned ritual is a window into 1000 AD version of Hinduism in India.</p> <p>Five hundred years from now, an Indian Hindu visiting America will exclaim: <i>You guys do WHAT during Diwali?!!</i></p> <p>M. Nam</p>

On this day …Hindus here will not cook, work, travel or indulge in sex in a collective attempt to purify

Sounds more like Buddhism to me. It’s interesting to observe how different varieties of Hinduism in the diaspora “freeze” at the state they were when they reached the shores. The above mentioned ritual is a window into 1000 AD version of Hinduism in India.

Five hundred years from now, an Indian Hindu visiting America will exclaim: You guys do WHAT during Diwali?!!

M. Nam

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By: Curious http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/07/shhhhhhhhhhhh/comment-page-1/#comment-196420 Curious Sun, 09 Mar 2008 14:08:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5080#comment-196420 <p>So I'm curious about all those people who are so thrilled with this idea. How do you feel about Islamic religious police?</p> <p>Sure, it might be a long way from Pecalang to Mutaween or the like, but it's just one slippery slope, isn't it?</p> <p>Enforcing this custom, no matter how lovely it is (I don't think it is, but that's another issue) essentially is depriving people of a choice.</p> So I’m curious about all those people who are so thrilled with this idea. How do you feel about Islamic religious police?

Sure, it might be a long way from Pecalang to Mutaween or the like, but it’s just one slippery slope, isn’t it?

Enforcing this custom, no matter how lovely it is (I don’t think it is, but that’s another issue) essentially is depriving people of a choice.

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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/07/shhhhhhhhhhhh/comment-page-1/#comment-196412 Ennis Sun, 09 Mar 2008 02:11:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5080#comment-196412 <blockquote>Wow, this sounds scarily draconian! Don't see why one person's meditation should require another person's gagging.</blockquote> <p>Because there is gigantic <a href="http://www.indoindians.com/writer/bali.htm">struggle between the forces of good and evil</a> that happens at that point, and silence is required. It's not just about meditation, any noise damages the communal ritual.</p> <p>There is a lot of noise and celebrations in the days before to draw evil spirits out. However, during Nyepi:</p> <blockquote>On this day of the new moon but darkest of all nights Hindus here will not cook, work, travel or indulge in sex in a collective attempt to purify the entire island. There will be no flights into Bali or out on this day and none will pick up the telephone. Shops will remain closed and all streets deserted. No light will be switched on even after the sun has set, as the island involves itself in mass meditation to restore balance between the forces of evil and good. [<a href="http://www.indoindians.com/writer/bali.htm">Link</a>]</blockquote> Wow, this sounds scarily draconian! Don’t see why one person’s meditation should require another person’s gagging.

Because there is gigantic struggle between the forces of good and evil that happens at that point, and silence is required. It’s not just about meditation, any noise damages the communal ritual.

There is a lot of noise and celebrations in the days before to draw evil spirits out. However, during Nyepi:

On this day of the new moon but darkest of all nights Hindus here will not cook, work, travel or indulge in sex in a collective attempt to purify the entire island. There will be no flights into Bali or out on this day and none will pick up the telephone. Shops will remain closed and all streets deserted. No light will be switched on even after the sun has set, as the island involves itself in mass meditation to restore balance between the forces of evil and good. [Link]
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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/07/shhhhhhhhhhhh/comment-page-1/#comment-196411 Rahul Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:54:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5080#comment-196411 <blockquote>The quiet is enforced by a traditional militia called the Pecalang... Even tourists are not exempt; although free to do as they wish inside their hotels, no one is allowed onto the beaches or streets... and as such, anything that might interfere with that purpose is restricted</blockquote> <p>Wow, this sounds scarily draconian! Don't see why one person's meditation should require another person's gagging.</p> The quiet is enforced by a traditional militia called the Pecalang… Even tourists are not exempt; although free to do as they wish inside their hotels, no one is allowed onto the beaches or streets… and as such, anything that might interfere with that purpose is restricted

Wow, this sounds scarily draconian! Don’t see why one person’s meditation should require another person’s gagging.

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By: krishna http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/07/shhhhhhhhhhhh/comment-page-1/#comment-196410 krishna Sun, 09 Mar 2008 01:42:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5080#comment-196410 <p>HI Ennis, Thanks for letting us know about this wonderful festival. I think this festival should be extended to the rest of the world "The day the earth stood still?" growing up in the city I have almost never experienced a silent, non-polluting world. just imagine the environmental benefits.</p> HI Ennis, Thanks for letting us know about this wonderful festival. I think this festival should be extended to the rest of the world “The day the earth stood still?” growing up in the city I have almost never experienced a silent, non-polluting world. just imagine the environmental benefits.

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By: NYC Akshay http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/07/shhhhhhhhhhhh/comment-page-1/#comment-196407 NYC Akshay Sat, 08 Mar 2008 22:24:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5080#comment-196407 <p><i>2 · <b><a href="mailto:jainrockstar@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow">jainrockstar</a></b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005080.html#comment196382">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>that is amazing. I love that idea! </blockquote> <p>I think it's a cool idea, too, but I'm a bit ambivalent when it comes to the Pecalang. I'm sure they do help make sure the holiday doesn't lose popularity. Still, enforcing it that way seems like it wouldn't always be the best thing.</p> 2 · jainrockstar said

that is amazing. I love that idea!

I think it’s a cool idea, too, but I’m a bit ambivalent when it comes to the Pecalang. I’m sure they do help make sure the holiday doesn’t lose popularity. Still, enforcing it that way seems like it wouldn’t always be the best thing.

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By: esdawet http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/07/shhhhhhhhhhhh/comment-page-1/#comment-196394 esdawet Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:00:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5080#comment-196394 <p>^^^^ It's an Indonesian Hindu thing only...there's nothing comparable in India that I know of...but its not just for Balinese Hindus, Javanese Hindus also celebrate it. Although admittedly, Balinese make up the vast majority of Hindus in this country.</p> ^^^^ It’s an Indonesian Hindu thing only…there’s nothing comparable in India that I know of…but its not just for Balinese Hindus, Javanese Hindus also celebrate it. Although admittedly, Balinese make up the vast majority of Hindus in this country.

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