Comments on: Everyone wants a little Punjabi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/03/everyone_wants_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: pnr k. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/03/everyone_wants_1/comment-page-4/#comment-289425 pnr k. Wed, 11 Apr 2012 20:52:22 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5069#comment-289425 <p>when the unrest in punjab was at its worst (caused by the hindu gov't) chubby punjabi babies were tossed in the air and murdered (shot) - this torture still continues - the only logical humane solution is a free state consisting of parts of afghanistan, kashmir and all of Punjab (Haryana, Himachal etc.) plus a passage to the sea in parts of gujrat - we were promised this by Nehru, Gandhi, Jinna etc. the only way genocide against the punjabi bhai chara will end is through the creation of a sthan that no one will ever even dare contemplate of messing around with - all that stands in the way are all the big, little and various medium rakshasas out there - may waheguru make us worthy of the creation of such a sthan - may waheguru always bless Pakistan for recognizing Anand Karaj - what is Anand Karaj? One man with one physical child-bearing wife plus three chaste wives, just like the 10th and final Master Sahib Sri Gobind Singh Sahib - all the Gurus married within ethnicity - let's emulate their greatness.</p> <ul> <li>i will miss this blog a bit - if anyone has trouble sleeping i recommend: cardio, (lots of miles) carbs and warm bovine milk (raw if possible) and just let your mind run free with happy thoughts - napping in the daytime sometimes helps one sleep at night as when one is overtired it can be impossible to sleep</li> </ul> when the unrest in punjab was at its worst (caused by the hindu gov’t) chubby punjabi babies were tossed in the air and murdered (shot) – this torture still continues – the only logical humane solution is a free state consisting of parts of afghanistan, kashmir and all of Punjab (Haryana, Himachal etc.) plus a passage to the sea in parts of gujrat – we were promised this by Nehru, Gandhi, Jinna etc. the only way genocide against the punjabi bhai chara will end is through the creation of a sthan that no one will ever even dare contemplate of messing around with – all that stands in the way are all the big, little and various medium rakshasas out there – may waheguru make us worthy of the creation of such a sthan – may waheguru always bless Pakistan for recognizing Anand Karaj – what is Anand Karaj? One man with one physical child-bearing wife plus three chaste wives, just like the 10th and final Master Sahib Sri Gobind Singh Sahib – all the Gurus married within ethnicity – let’s emulate their greatness.

  • i will miss this blog a bit – if anyone has trouble sleeping i recommend: cardio, (lots of miles) carbs and warm bovine milk (raw if possible) and just let your mind run free with happy thoughts – napping in the daytime sometimes helps one sleep at night as when one is overtired it can be impossible to sleep
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By: Wanderer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/03/everyone_wants_1/comment-page-4/#comment-264781 Wanderer Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:21:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5069#comment-264781 <p>I also know a Punjabi Sikh who looks Oriental ( meaning east of India), and has always had problems as being seen as Punjabi, because of his Chin looks...Yet he speaks, breathes and eats Punjabi.. People judge books by their covers and are obessed with religious alligences</p> I also know a Punjabi Sikh who looks Oriental ( meaning east of India), and has always had problems as being seen as Punjabi, because of his Chin looks…Yet he speaks, breathes and eats Punjabi.. People judge books by their covers and are obessed with religious alligences

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By: Gustavo http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/03/everyone_wants_1/comment-page-4/#comment-264734 Gustavo Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:27:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5069#comment-264734 <p>My aunt adopted a Sheedi/habshi (Afro-Pakistani) orphan in Karachi, when she noticed him wander in the female section of the mosque, she inquired about his parents. She later found out he was living in a boarding house that provides shelter to minority children in Pakistan.</p> <p>The boy amazed her as he quoted poems by Rumi in Farsi.</p> <p>The boy also speaks some Pashto, is fluent in Sindhi and Urdu, proficient in Baloch and Makrian (a language spoken in and around Karachi).</p> <p>My aunt never wed, but she brought her son home to the States. In the local South Asian Muslim community, people did not know how to perceive the child. He was clearly South Asian culturally, but his appearance would mistaken him for being African American in Western attire.</p> My aunt adopted a Sheedi/habshi (Afro-Pakistani) orphan in Karachi, when she noticed him wander in the female section of the mosque, she inquired about his parents. She later found out he was living in a boarding house that provides shelter to minority children in Pakistan.

The boy amazed her as he quoted poems by Rumi in Farsi.

The boy also speaks some Pashto, is fluent in Sindhi and Urdu, proficient in Baloch and Makrian (a language spoken in and around Karachi).

My aunt never wed, but she brought her son home to the States. In the local South Asian Muslim community, people did not know how to perceive the child. He was clearly South Asian culturally, but his appearance would mistaken him for being African American in Western attire.

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By: Gustavo http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/03/everyone_wants_1/comment-page-4/#comment-264728 Gustavo Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:14:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5069#comment-264728 <p>Many high-caste Muslims in India and Pakistan pride themselves about their alleged Persian, Turkish, Central Asian, or Arab origins.</p> <p>The Muslim Brahmins of the subcontinents are those who claim lineage to the Prophet.</p> <p>But in the Arab world, where family lineages are meticulously kept and preserved, few Arabs claim to be of Banu Hashim (the tribe of the Prophet Muhammad).</p> <p>Skin color in my family varies widely, so you never know if your child will be fair skinned or dark skinned, it's the luck of the straw.</p> <p>But I find darker skinned South Asians have more attractive noses, I'm not big on prominent noses which tend to be common among lighter skinned South Asians. Thank God I have a decent size nose with an okay profile.</p> Many high-caste Muslims in India and Pakistan pride themselves about their alleged Persian, Turkish, Central Asian, or Arab origins.

The Muslim Brahmins of the subcontinents are those who claim lineage to the Prophet.

But in the Arab world, where family lineages are meticulously kept and preserved, few Arabs claim to be of Banu Hashim (the tribe of the Prophet Muhammad).

Skin color in my family varies widely, so you never know if your child will be fair skinned or dark skinned, it’s the luck of the straw.

But I find darker skinned South Asians have more attractive noses, I’m not big on prominent noses which tend to be common among lighter skinned South Asians. Thank God I have a decent size nose with an okay profile.

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By: Wanderer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/03/everyone_wants_1/comment-page-4/#comment-264723 Wanderer Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:45:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5069#comment-264723 <p>Gustavo ji it just shows how colourful and complicated life is....and how sad that dark people are looked down upon</p> Gustavo ji it just shows how colourful and complicated life is….and how sad that dark people are looked down upon

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By: Gustavo http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/03/everyone_wants_1/comment-page-4/#comment-264690 Gustavo Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:14:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5069#comment-264690 <p>I know plenty of Pakistani Punjabis who consider themselves of having foreign origins.</p> <p>My family is from Afghanistan, but due to civil war and strife, many have been displaced to Pakistan.</p> <p>My family speaks Farsi/Dari, "Persian" is our home language, therefore, growing up I was taught I was ethnic Persian. However, when you actually examine my family tree, we are a hodgepodge of various ethnic backgrounds that reside in Afghanistan, Iran, and Pakistan.</p> <p>Not all Persians live in Iran. I know a number of Persians in India, Pakistan, Iraq, the Gulf Arab kingdoms, Turkey, Syria, etc.</p> I know plenty of Pakistani Punjabis who consider themselves of having foreign origins.

My family is from Afghanistan, but due to civil war and strife, many have been displaced to Pakistan.

My family speaks Farsi/Dari, “Persian” is our home language, therefore, growing up I was taught I was ethnic Persian. However, when you actually examine my family tree, we are a hodgepodge of various ethnic backgrounds that reside in Afghanistan, Iran, and Pakistan.

Not all Persians live in Iran. I know a number of Persians in India, Pakistan, Iraq, the Gulf Arab kingdoms, Turkey, Syria, etc.

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By: Gustavo http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/03/everyone_wants_1/comment-page-4/#comment-264689 Gustavo Sat, 28 Nov 2009 17:07:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5069#comment-264689 <blockquote>Terrible but reality. I didn't realise that Punjabis were considered 'better' in India. In Pakistan I think Pukhtoons are considered more valuable b/c they are very light skinned.</blockquote> <p>My nephew is a chubby Afghan/Pushtun boy. He's so cute but I was shocked by his fair complexion. His father is dark but my sister is fair. My mother has porcelain white skin.</p> <p>But not all Pushtuns are light skinned. Some of us have intermarried with Desis in Pakistan.</p> <p>Pakistanis I know consider Indians "black." In general, Pakistan seems to have lighter skinned peeps from the Sindh to the Kashmir.</p> <p>But color variation occurs within families.</p> <p>For example, I'm not "brown" but "white" with most people assuming I'm white and something else. People never guess South Asian.</p> Terrible but reality. I didn’t realise that Punjabis were considered ‘better’ in India. In Pakistan I think Pukhtoons are considered more valuable b/c they are very light skinned.

My nephew is a chubby Afghan/Pushtun boy. He’s so cute but I was shocked by his fair complexion. His father is dark but my sister is fair. My mother has porcelain white skin.

But not all Pushtuns are light skinned. Some of us have intermarried with Desis in Pakistan.

Pakistanis I know consider Indians “black.” In general, Pakistan seems to have lighter skinned peeps from the Sindh to the Kashmir.

But color variation occurs within families.

For example, I’m not “brown” but “white” with most people assuming I’m white and something else. People never guess South Asian.

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By: Wanderer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/03/everyone_wants_1/comment-page-4/#comment-264680 Wanderer Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:56:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5069#comment-264680 <p>I love Punjab its culture and literature...but I agree with the posting blogger..this is wrong and disgusting...children are not a fashion statement..</p> <p>On a separate note..when will some one blog something positive and thought provoking about Punjabi?? It has been months...please please please...there are more writers than just Ajeet Cour</p> I love Punjab its culture and literature…but I agree with the posting blogger..this is wrong and disgusting…children are not a fashion statement..

On a separate note..when will some one blog something positive and thought provoking about Punjabi?? It has been months…please please please…there are more writers than just Ajeet Cour

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By: Dhoni http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/03/everyone_wants_1/comment-page-4/#comment-212627 Dhoni Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:54:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5069#comment-212627 <blockquote>In India Dark = Ugly in most cases. No two ways about it </blockquote> <p>And that is why Indians, being overwhelmingly dark-skinned, are the world champions in racial self-loathing. The historical reasons for this paradigm shift from Shyama Sundara to Fair & Lovely should be studied, and the servile stupidity of the current desi obsession with light skin color needs to be ridiculed as often as necessary.</p> <blockquote> the sooner that the Western World realizes it, the easier it is for everyone.</blockquote> <p>What the heck do you mean by that? The racist West <b>deliberately</b>played the critical role in making desis loathe their own skins.</p> In India Dark = Ugly in most cases. No two ways about it

And that is why Indians, being overwhelmingly dark-skinned, are the world champions in racial self-loathing. The historical reasons for this paradigm shift from Shyama Sundara to Fair & Lovely should be studied, and the servile stupidity of the current desi obsession with light skin color needs to be ridiculed as often as necessary.

the sooner that the Western World realizes it, the easier it is for everyone.

What the heck do you mean by that? The racist West deliberatelyplayed the critical role in making desis loathe their own skins.

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By: Dhoni http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/03/03/everyone_wants_1/comment-page-4/#comment-212626 Dhoni Sat, 16 Aug 2008 07:35:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5069#comment-212626 <blockquote>wouldn't it be closer to the truth to understand this as a uniquely Indian parent's idea of what a perfect baby should look like -- ie baby Krishna (light-skinned & chubby, and ideally with some buttermilk around the mouth)</blockquote> <p>Actually, while baby Krishna may have been chubby he was certainly not light-skinned. He was shyama sundara, a beautiful black baby who grew up to be a handsome young man. You knew that didnt you?</p> wouldn’t it be closer to the truth to understand this as a uniquely Indian parent’s idea of what a perfect baby should look like — ie baby Krishna (light-skinned & chubby, and ideally with some buttermilk around the mouth)

Actually, while baby Krishna may have been chubby he was certainly not light-skinned. He was shyama sundara, a beautiful black baby who grew up to be a handsome young man. You knew that didnt you?

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