Comments on: Kiss my … turban, HRC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/26/kiss_my_turban/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/26/kiss_my_turban/comment-page-4/#comment-197470 Rahul Thu, 20 Mar 2008 13:50:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5057#comment-197470 <blockquote>However, any claim that Hillary has been a target of misogyny is pretty much groundless. Why? Because to someone who will "never vote for a woman" would most likely, "never vote for a black man" either. That's for misogyny effecting actual votes</blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2175496/">NOT TRUE</a>. By a wide margin.</p> However, any claim that Hillary has been a target of misogyny is pretty much groundless. Why? Because to someone who will “never vote for a woman” would most likely, “never vote for a black man” either. That’s for misogyny effecting actual votes

NOT TRUE. By a wide margin.

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By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/26/kiss_my_turban/comment-page-4/#comment-196198 HMF Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:12:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5057#comment-196198 <p><i>I'm beginning to think, that some desi girl you were seeing left you for some average looking white guy, and you never get over it.</i></p> <p>Gee, you're 'beginning' to think. Most have jumped on that assumption bandwagon eons ago.</p> <p>Maybe it's the 'millionth' post addressing white privilege, because its a phenomenon that so few admit to (normally it's whites that deny it, but as is clearly evident, many non-whites are up to their necks in denial as well) Of course if you just get over whatever assumptions you feel like making and actually look at the evidence, Obama's Canada fiasco is <b>small potatoes</b> compared to what the Clinton's have done, including Hillary's being the second <a href = "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J1I_EJrCHU'">largest</a> receiver of health care contributions, yet she parades as the "true voice" for universal healthcare, of course what it really is, is universal purchasing of the health insurance industry's product.</p> <p>Time and time again, we've seen that black and brown folks have been held to much higher standards of morality and propriety, just look at the criminal justice system, and it's the same thing panning out, in the electoral competition. I did in my post however, point out that this phenom is being exacerbated strongly by Obama's own statements on "being a deviation from Washington", etc.. etc...</p> <p>Now SD, the relative correctness of your assumption is fairly irrelevant, but if you don't think white privilege operates in female-->male assessments of worth and essence of being, (and it operates in the other direction as well, but I'm going with the direction you mentioned) then you're pretty naive on that front as well.</p> I’m beginning to think, that some desi girl you were seeing left you for some average looking white guy, and you never get over it.

Gee, you’re ‘beginning’ to think. Most have jumped on that assumption bandwagon eons ago.

Maybe it’s the ‘millionth’ post addressing white privilege, because its a phenomenon that so few admit to (normally it’s whites that deny it, but as is clearly evident, many non-whites are up to their necks in denial as well) Of course if you just get over whatever assumptions you feel like making and actually look at the evidence, Obama’s Canada fiasco is small potatoes compared to what the Clinton’s have done, including Hillary’s being the second largest receiver of health care contributions, yet she parades as the “true voice” for universal healthcare, of course what it really is, is universal purchasing of the health insurance industry’s product.

Time and time again, we’ve seen that black and brown folks have been held to much higher standards of morality and propriety, just look at the criminal justice system, and it’s the same thing panning out, in the electoral competition. I did in my post however, point out that this phenom is being exacerbated strongly by Obama’s own statements on “being a deviation from Washington”, etc.. etc…

Now SD, the relative correctness of your assumption is fairly irrelevant, but if you don’t think white privilege operates in female–>male assessments of worth and essence of being, (and it operates in the other direction as well, but I’m going with the direction you mentioned) then you’re pretty naive on that front as well.

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By: Suki Dillon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/26/kiss_my_turban/comment-page-4/#comment-196193 Suki Dillon Thu, 06 Mar 2008 08:44:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5057#comment-196193 <p><i>Another clear indication of white privilege </i></p> <p>This has to be the millionth post by HMF which somehow he brings up the issue of white privilege. Every little issue its the same thing over and over.</p> <p>I'm beginning to think, that some desi girl you were seeing left you for some average looking white guy, and you never get over it.</p> Another clear indication of white privilege

This has to be the millionth post by HMF which somehow he brings up the issue of white privilege. Every little issue its the same thing over and over.

I’m beginning to think, that some desi girl you were seeing left you for some average looking white guy, and you never get over it.

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By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/26/kiss_my_turban/comment-page-4/#comment-196004 HMF Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:23:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5057#comment-196004 <p><i>That's way too simplistic--I'm not exactly up on that demographic, but I could easily come up with some counter-examples (which I don't care to go into, b/c they're so obvious). </i></p> <p>Of course there's counterexamples, which is why I said, "most likely" I'll give you one, certain black males might not have a problem with voting for Obama, but may "never vote for a woman" regardless of who she was.</p> <p>But say that every black male thought this way, (which is completely untrue) that means 50% of 12% of the population, 6%, would go against her by "misogyny", hardly enough to have an effect.</p> <p>I'd say, in the realm of electoral politics, if someone is willing to judge purely on gender, they'd be fairly likely to judge on race as well.</p> That’s way too simplistic–I’m not exactly up on that demographic, but I could easily come up with some counter-examples (which I don’t care to go into, b/c they’re so obvious).

Of course there’s counterexamples, which is why I said, “most likely” I’ll give you one, certain black males might not have a problem with voting for Obama, but may “never vote for a woman” regardless of who she was.

But say that every black male thought this way, (which is completely untrue) that means 50% of 12% of the population, 6%, would go against her by “misogyny”, hardly enough to have an effect.

I’d say, in the realm of electoral politics, if someone is willing to judge purely on gender, they’d be fairly likely to judge on race as well.

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By: rob http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/26/kiss_my_turban/comment-page-4/#comment-195974 rob Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:39:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5057#comment-195974 <blockquote>191 · HMF Because to someone who will "never vote for a woman" would most likely, "never vote for a black man" either.</blockquote> <p>That's way too simplistic--I'm not exactly up on that demographic, but I could easily come up with some counter-examples (which I don't care to go into, b/c they're so obvious).</p> 191 · HMF Because to someone who will “never vote for a woman” would most likely, “never vote for a black man” either.

That’s way too simplistic–I’m not exactly up on that demographic, but I could easily come up with some counter-examples (which I don’t care to go into, b/c they’re so obvious).

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By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/26/kiss_my_turban/comment-page-4/#comment-195973 HMF Wed, 05 Mar 2008 06:32:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5057#comment-195973 <p>Another clear indication of white privilege in tonight's primary(ies). The Resco and Canadian embassy meeting clearly had an effect on Obama's perfomance, not to mention the picture in this very post. Obama should be held accountable for the first two, however, as a black person running, it means he will be implicitly held to higher standards of propriety and morality (part of which is his doing in the first place, as he's running on the , 'I'm not washington as usual' ticket),</p> <p>However, any claim that Hillary has been a target of misogyny is pretty much groundless. Why? Because to someone who will "never vote for a woman" would most likely, "never vote for a black man" either. That's for misogyny effecting actual votes, as for a misogynistic tint to media coverage. Again, falls short, because in Nov/Dec and even Jan, she was miss. media darling, it was only when Billary showed its ugly head that the press coverage turned south for her.</p> Another clear indication of white privilege in tonight’s primary(ies). The Resco and Canadian embassy meeting clearly had an effect on Obama’s perfomance, not to mention the picture in this very post. Obama should be held accountable for the first two, however, as a black person running, it means he will be implicitly held to higher standards of propriety and morality (part of which is his doing in the first place, as he’s running on the , ‘I’m not washington as usual’ ticket),

However, any claim that Hillary has been a target of misogyny is pretty much groundless. Why? Because to someone who will “never vote for a woman” would most likely, “never vote for a black man” either. That’s for misogyny effecting actual votes, as for a misogynistic tint to media coverage. Again, falls short, because in Nov/Dec and even Jan, she was miss. media darling, it was only when Billary showed its ugly head that the press coverage turned south for her.

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By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/26/kiss_my_turban/comment-page-4/#comment-195960 HMF Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:57:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5057#comment-195960 <p><i>hmmm, that's what you say when you think someone's lying but you want to appear generous while maintaining the possiblility that they did it,</i></p> <p>True, it's also telling the people who are indeed considering voting against Obama because of some preconceived notion that he is muslim or has muslim ties (like the paper making gentlemen interviewed in that 60 mins segment) that, that is a viable reason to vote against him, because there is some minute possibility that it's true.</p> hmmm, that’s what you say when you think someone’s lying but you want to appear generous while maintaining the possiblility that they did it,

True, it’s also telling the people who are indeed considering voting against Obama because of some preconceived notion that he is muslim or has muslim ties (like the paper making gentlemen interviewed in that 60 mins segment) that, that is a viable reason to vote against him, because there is some minute possibility that it’s true.

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By: gm http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/26/kiss_my_turban/comment-page-4/#comment-195924 gm Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:19:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5057#comment-195924 <p><i>186 · <B>Rahul</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005057.html#comment195499">said</a></i></p> <blockquote><BLOCKQUOTE>That would make sense if Coulter possessed any humanity.</BLOCKQUOTE> Just because she <A href="http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/nyc/69503141.html" rel=nofollow>doesn't do well with blacks and moguls</A>? </blockquote> <p>Is this a true story or a fictional account with grotesque symbols? Just wondering if anyone knew. The ending was very nauseating yet funny.</p> 186 · Rahul said

That would make sense if Coulter possessed any humanity.
Just because she doesn’t do well with blacks and moguls?

Is this a true story or a fictional account with grotesque symbols? Just wondering if anyone knew. The ending was very nauseating yet funny.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/26/kiss_my_turban/comment-page-4/#comment-195690 Manju Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:29:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5057#comment-195690 <p>so i was watching clinton (and obama) on 60 minutes 2night and Clinton was asked if she thought obama was a Muslim and she replies:</p> <p>"i take him on the basis of what he says." "there's nothing to base that on, as far as I know"</p> <p>hmmm, that's what you say when you think someone's lying but you want to appear generous while maintaining the possiblility that they did it, like obama's response in the debate as to whether he thought the Clinton camp sent out that photo ("i take her at her word"). sounded funny. you can check out the video (ohio segment) on 60min website, around 11:40 in. there's a ray gun story that pretty cool too.</p> so i was watching clinton (and obama) on 60 minutes 2night and Clinton was asked if she thought obama was a Muslim and she replies:

“i take him on the basis of what he says.” “there’s nothing to base that on, as far as I know”

hmmm, that’s what you say when you think someone’s lying but you want to appear generous while maintaining the possiblility that they did it, like obama’s response in the debate as to whether he thought the Clinton camp sent out that photo (“i take her at her word”). sounded funny. you can check out the video (ohio segment) on 60min website, around 11:40 in. there’s a ray gun story that pretty cool too.

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By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/26/kiss_my_turban/comment-page-4/#comment-195524 HMF Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:00:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5057#comment-195524 <p>No, because she has applied anti-truth lotion all over her <a href = "http://slannder.homestead.com/Index.html">body</a>.</p> No, because she has applied anti-truth lotion all over her body.

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