Comments on: Obama Takes on Outsourcing http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/20/obama_takes_on/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/20/obama_takes_on/comment-page-3/#comment-198877 jh Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:00:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5043#comment-198877 <p>Let me see if I am understanding this correctly about Mr. Obama................</p> <p>HIS FATHER WAS A KENYAN, MOSLEM, BLACK- WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN "FAMILY</p> <p>HIS MOTHER IS A KANSAN, AN ATHIEST, AND IS WHITE-</p> <p>WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS KANSAN, WHITE MOTHER AND HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS WHO RAISED HIM?</p> <p>HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER AND HIM WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG AND WENT BACK TO HIS FAMILY IN KENYA</p> <p>HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MOSLEM AND TOOK HIM TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS SCHOOLED IN A MOSLEM SCHOOL</p> <p>HIS MOTHER RETURNED TO HAWAII AND HE WAS RAISED BY HIS WHITE KANSAN GRANDPARENTS</p> <p>HE LATER WENT TO THE BEST HIGH DOLLAR SCHOOLS, HOW?</p> <p>HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT HE ACQUIRED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUND RAISER. HOW?</p> <p>HE "WORKED" AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO- HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POST</p> <p>NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES</p> <p>HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE</p> <p>HE IS PROUD OF HIS "AFRICAN HERITAGE" BUT IT SEEMS THAT HIS ONLY AFRICAN CONNECTION WAS THAT HIS AFRICAN FATHER GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT SPERM CARRIED A "CULTURAL" GENE.WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS WHITE CULTURE?</p> <p>HE ATTENDS A "AFROCENTRIC" CHURCH THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLDS PERCEIVED FAULTS AND THEN REPEATEDLY COVERS UP FOR THE PASTOR AND THE CHURCH</p> <p>HE CLAIMS THAT HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN, RIGHT!!!</p> <p>YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW HE COULD BE A UNITER AND BRING US TOGETHER, I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER.</p> Let me see if I am understanding this correctly about Mr. Obama…………….

HIS FATHER WAS A KENYAN, MOSLEM, BLACK- WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN “FAMILY

HIS MOTHER IS A KANSAN, AN ATHIEST, AND IS WHITE-

WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS KANSAN, WHITE MOTHER AND HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS WHO RAISED HIM?

HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER AND HIM WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG AND WENT BACK TO HIS FAMILY IN KENYA

HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONESIAN MOSLEM AND TOOK HIM TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS SCHOOLED IN A MOSLEM SCHOOL

HIS MOTHER RETURNED TO HAWAII AND HE WAS RAISED BY HIS WHITE KANSAN GRANDPARENTS

HE LATER WENT TO THE BEST HIGH DOLLAR SCHOOLS, HOW?

HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT HE ACQUIRED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUND RAISER. HOW?

HE “WORKED” AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO- HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POST

NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES

HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVEL AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE

HE IS PROUD OF HIS “AFRICAN HERITAGE” BUT IT SEEMS THAT HIS ONLY AFRICAN CONNECTION WAS THAT HIS AFRICAN FATHER GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER. I DIDN’T KNOW THAT SPERM CARRIED A “CULTURAL” GENE.WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS WHITE CULTURE?

HE ATTENDS A “AFROCENTRIC” CHURCH THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLDS PERCEIVED FAULTS AND THEN REPEATEDLY COVERS UP FOR THE PASTOR AND THE CHURCH

HE CLAIMS THAT HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE THAT HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN, RIGHT!!!

YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW HE COULD BE A UNITER AND BRING US TOGETHER, I THINK THE HOPE IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER.

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By: rob http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/20/obama_takes_on/comment-page-3/#comment-194816 rob Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:01:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5043#comment-194816 <blockquote>92 · Rahul just as I don't assume that a politician is religious just because he claims to be, I don't think that it is reasonable to assume that a man is not a raving religious loonie just because he is a politician. Jindal's writings about his coming to Catholicism and the meaning of being a Christian (as well as what he thinks of those not on this path) even when he was a student at Oxford and his later articles about exorcism and so on definitely seem to indicate that he is quite a fundamentalist believer - this is an expressed intensity of belief far more than the mere pandering of participating in gospel singing or ostentatiously going to Sunday service. And I think Huckabee is similar</blockquote> <p>Rahul, Just to be clear here--I think you are conflating two points (or, maybe I am guilty of same)--but--at any rate, I'm not arguing that Jindal is insincere in converting to Catholicism--the details you mention seem to argue that he <i>is</i> pretty sincere--what I'm calling "pandering" is going from Catholicism to his advocacy of teaching "Intelligent Design"-I don't think the latter has much to do with Catholicism (see, e.g., Italy, or New England). So, I don't think Jindal is pandering when he says he's a Catholic Christian, but I do think when he says the schools should teach Intelligent Design as an alternative to evolution (to the extent he does say that) that it's just pandering--he doesn't really believe that (I'm asserting).</p> 92 · Rahul just as I don’t assume that a politician is religious just because he claims to be, I don’t think that it is reasonable to assume that a man is not a raving religious loonie just because he is a politician. Jindal’s writings about his coming to Catholicism and the meaning of being a Christian (as well as what he thinks of those not on this path) even when he was a student at Oxford and his later articles about exorcism and so on definitely seem to indicate that he is quite a fundamentalist believer – this is an expressed intensity of belief far more than the mere pandering of participating in gospel singing or ostentatiously going to Sunday service. And I think Huckabee is similar

Rahul, Just to be clear here–I think you are conflating two points (or, maybe I am guilty of same)–but–at any rate, I’m not arguing that Jindal is insincere in converting to Catholicism–the details you mention seem to argue that he is pretty sincere–what I’m calling “pandering” is going from Catholicism to his advocacy of teaching “Intelligent Design”-I don’t think the latter has much to do with Catholicism (see, e.g., Italy, or New England). So, I don’t think Jindal is pandering when he says he’s a Catholic Christian, but I do think when he says the schools should teach Intelligent Design as an alternative to evolution (to the extent he does say that) that it’s just pandering–he doesn’t really believe that (I’m asserting).

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By: khoofia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/20/obama_takes_on/comment-page-3/#comment-194732 khoofia Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:09:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5043#comment-194732 <blockquote>I personally I am against tax breaks for all large corporations anyway... tax breaks should be given to the entities that make best use of that capital.. and large corporations are full of ineffecient old school management</blockquote> <p>ow. ow. ow. i feel little red ants crawling and biting through my skin, over my eyes, nostrils.</p> <p>it's ok to support your guy, dude - but I am very skeptical about your comment. if you are bothered about executive compensation, I would agree that there are some examples [e.g. home depot] that stand out. but ... inefficient, old school mgmt...!! Well, could you please explain what you mean. I hate to sidetrack but may be you have a strong case in your support of Sen. obama. pray elaborate.</p> I personally I am against tax breaks for all large corporations anyway… tax breaks should be given to the entities that make best use of that capital.. and large corporations are full of ineffecient old school management

ow. ow. ow. i feel little red ants crawling and biting through my skin, over my eyes, nostrils.

it’s ok to support your guy, dude – but I am very skeptical about your comment. if you are bothered about executive compensation, I would agree that there are some examples [e.g. home depot] that stand out. but … inefficient, old school mgmt…!! Well, could you please explain what you mean. I hate to sidetrack but may be you have a strong case in your support of Sen. obama. pray elaborate.

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By: Peeyush http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/20/obama_takes_on/comment-page-3/#comment-194729 Peeyush Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:52:08 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5043#comment-194729 <p>Am I the only idiot who thinks Obama is not against outsourcing. He is against tax break for outsourcers.</p> <p>I personally I am against tax breaks for all large corporations anyway... tax breaks should be given to the entities that make best use of that capital.. and large corporations are full of ineffecient old school management.</p> Am I the only idiot who thinks Obama is not against outsourcing. He is against tax break for outsourcers.

I personally I am against tax breaks for all large corporations anyway… tax breaks should be given to the entities that make best use of that capital.. and large corporations are full of ineffecient old school management.

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By: kari http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/20/obama_takes_on/comment-page-3/#comment-194693 kari Fri, 22 Feb 2008 08:41:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5043#comment-194693 <p><i>7 · <b>Not so FOB_DBD_MTA</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005043.html#comment194384">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>How does a corporate tax break going to help the middle class or the poor Americans? Such a plan might lead to playing with numbers. For instance a company could cut the wages and benefits to balance out the losses or decrease in profit incurred due to keeping an extra person on the pay roll in the US to get the number of employees in the US to be just above the required mark. </blockquote> <p>right now corporations get taxbreaks for sending jobs overseas. obama wants to stimulate the market from the bottom-up by encouraging corps to stay within borders and create jobs for the working class again.</p> 7 · Not so FOB_DBD_MTA said

How does a corporate tax break going to help the middle class or the poor Americans? Such a plan might lead to playing with numbers. For instance a company could cut the wages and benefits to balance out the losses or decrease in profit incurred due to keeping an extra person on the pay roll in the US to get the number of employees in the US to be just above the required mark.

right now corporations get taxbreaks for sending jobs overseas. obama wants to stimulate the market from the bottom-up by encouraging corps to stay within borders and create jobs for the working class again.

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By: Manju http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/20/obama_takes_on/comment-page-3/#comment-194684 Manju Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:44:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5043#comment-194684 <p><i>101 · <B>Rahul</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005043.html#comment194679">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>Yeah, I've heard that and it's a poor reason to not vote Democrat 45 years on.</blockquote> <p>well, opposing Castro is their civil rights movement...hell its their abolitionist movement.</p> 101 · Rahul said

Yeah, I’ve heard that and it’s a poor reason to not vote Democrat 45 years on.

well, opposing Castro is their civil rights movement…hell its their abolitionist movement.

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By: rob http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/20/obama_takes_on/comment-page-3/#comment-194680 rob Fri, 22 Feb 2008 05:03:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5043#comment-194680 <blockquote>101 · Rahul I loved the first comment on this post: Cool, now the right-wing bloggers searching for pro-Castro posts won’t come up empty-handed...</blockquote> <p>LOL--I guessed you would get a kick out of that! ;-) The rest of the comments are pretty interesting too, though.</p> 101 · Rahul I loved the first comment on this post: Cool, now the right-wing bloggers searching for pro-Castro posts won’t come up empty-handed…

LOL–I guessed you would get a kick out of that! ;-) The rest of the comments are pretty interesting too, though.

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/20/obama_takes_on/comment-page-3/#comment-194679 Rahul Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:57:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5043#comment-194679 <blockquote>Rahul: All of the Cuban-Americans that I have met (without exception) told me they would never forget "The Bay of Pigs". They blame J.F.Kennedy, and rightly so. This is the reason they said they would never vote Democrat to this day.</blockquote> <p>Yeah, I've heard that and it's a poor reason to not vote Democrat 45 years on.</p> <blockquote>This may change as their generation dies out and their grandchildren become of voting age.</blockquote> <p>Oh, they can stoke their flames of resentment with the memory of Elian.</p> <blockquote>"Clinton said she would refuse to sit down with incoming President Raul Castro until he implements political and economic reforms. Obama said he would meet "without preconditions,""</blockquote> <p>I think the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21text-demdebate.html?pagewanted=all">actual debate transcript</a> says that there's really not much difference between the two on Cuba. But whom are we kidding? Cuba really has very little international strategic importance, and there is no domestic percentage to be had from actually changing the status quo. And these are both smart politicians - I'd be willing to bet that neither of them is likely to do anything substantive on Cuba unless something dramatic happens.</p> <blockquote>Rahul, I had in mind, for example, this, but I'll admit I haven't canvassed things comprehensively (and admittedly Bertram is a Brit).</blockquote> <p>I loved the first comment on this post: <i>Cool, now the right-wing bloggers searching for pro-Castro posts won’t come up empty-handed.</i>. But who knows? <a href="http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN2825114320070829?feedType=RSS&feedName=politicsNews&rpc=22&sp=true">Maybe you are on to something</a>?</p> Rahul: All of the Cuban-Americans that I have met (without exception) told me they would never forget “The Bay of Pigs”. They blame J.F.Kennedy, and rightly so. This is the reason they said they would never vote Democrat to this day.

Yeah, I’ve heard that and it’s a poor reason to not vote Democrat 45 years on.

This may change as their generation dies out and their grandchildren become of voting age.

Oh, they can stoke their flames of resentment with the memory of Elian.

“Clinton said she would refuse to sit down with incoming President Raul Castro until he implements political and economic reforms. Obama said he would meet “without preconditions,”"

I think the actual debate transcript says that there’s really not much difference between the two on Cuba. But whom are we kidding? Cuba really has very little international strategic importance, and there is no domestic percentage to be had from actually changing the status quo. And these are both smart politicians – I’d be willing to bet that neither of them is likely to do anything substantive on Cuba unless something dramatic happens.

Rahul, I had in mind, for example, this, but I’ll admit I haven’t canvassed things comprehensively (and admittedly Bertram is a Brit).

I loved the first comment on this post: Cool, now the right-wing bloggers searching for pro-Castro posts won’t come up empty-handed.. But who knows? Maybe you are on to something?

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By: rob http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/20/obama_takes_on/comment-page-2/#comment-194677 rob Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:37:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5043#comment-194677 <blockquote>93 · Rahul Rob, I meant to ask you earlier, could you amplify on this statements? </blockquote> <p>Rahul, I had in mind, for example, <a href="http://crookedtimber.org/2008/02/19/castro-retires/">this</a>, but I'll admit I haven't canvassed things comprehensively (and admittedly Bertram is a Brit).</p> 93 · Rahul Rob, I meant to ask you earlier, could you amplify on this statements?

Rahul, I had in mind, for example, this, but I’ll admit I haven’t canvassed things comprehensively (and admittedly Bertram is a Brit).

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By: najeeb (for Obama) http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/20/obama_takes_on/comment-page-2/#comment-194676 najeeb (for Obama) Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:28:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5043#comment-194676 <p>For those who think both Hillary and Obama are the same on cuban issue: See this from todya's debate:</p> <p>"Clinton said she would refuse to sit down with incoming President Raul Castro until he implements political and economic reforms. Obama said he would meet "without preconditions,""</p> For those who think both Hillary and Obama are the same on cuban issue: See this from todya’s debate:

“Clinton said she would refuse to sit down with incoming President Raul Castro until he implements political and economic reforms. Obama said he would meet “without preconditions,”"

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