Comments on: All love is brown love http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/18/all_love_is_bro/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Claudia Patel http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/18/all_love_is_bro/comment-page-1/#comment-194800 Claudia Patel Sat, 23 Feb 2008 04:06:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5036#comment-194800 <p>SM Intern = ANNA. Has anyone else noticed she's the only moderator who deliberately fights with commentators? Probably for the same reason that she signs off as ANNA and not Anna - never-ending ego issues.</p> SM Intern = ANNA. Has anyone else noticed she’s the only moderator who deliberately fights with commentators? Probably for the same reason that she signs off as ANNA and not Anna – never-ending ego issues.

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By: Arranged marriages in the west http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/18/all_love_is_bro/comment-page-1/#comment-194639 Arranged marriages in the west Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:58:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5036#comment-194639 <p>I have some experience with arranged marraige.</p> <p>It was a practice prevelant in ISKCON during the 1970s and 1980s with tragic (and often dangerous results). Then later when I went to India I was exposed to the phenomena there.</p> <p>People argue that it works in India but not in ISKCON because of cultural reasons. That is partly true, but then their concept of what "works" could be questioned as well.</p> <p>In ISKCON marriages were often arranged by temple authorities and gurus who would match people up according to their capacites to collect donations and funds for the organization.</p> <p>The founder of ISKCON, Swami Prabhupada, arranged some disciples marriages in the beginning, but seeing their divorce rate, stopped. I think only one or two couples he arranged are still married today. The rest, as well as those arranged by temple authorities and later gurus are 99% no longer as well.</p> <p>Suffice it to say that ISKCON does not specialize in the arranged marriage biz anymore.</p> I have some experience with arranged marraige.

It was a practice prevelant in ISKCON during the 1970s and 1980s with tragic (and often dangerous results). Then later when I went to India I was exposed to the phenomena there.

People argue that it works in India but not in ISKCON because of cultural reasons. That is partly true, but then their concept of what “works” could be questioned as well.

In ISKCON marriages were often arranged by temple authorities and gurus who would match people up according to their capacites to collect donations and funds for the organization.

The founder of ISKCON, Swami Prabhupada, arranged some disciples marriages in the beginning, but seeing their divorce rate, stopped. I think only one or two couples he arranged are still married today. The rest, as well as those arranged by temple authorities and later gurus are 99% no longer as well.

Suffice it to say that ISKCON does not specialize in the arranged marriage biz anymore.

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By: Passerby http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/18/all_love_is_bro/comment-page-1/#comment-194587 Passerby Thu, 21 Feb 2008 16:26:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5036#comment-194587 <p>Interesting thread... Relevant story from Int'l Herald Tribune that may be of interest</p> <p>http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/19/asia/divorce.php http://www.iht.com/slideshows/2008/02/19/asia/DIVORCE.php</p> Interesting thread… Relevant story from Int’l Herald Tribune that may be of interest

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/19/asia/divorce.php http://www.iht.com/slideshows/2008/02/19/asia/DIVORCE.php

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/18/all_love_is_bro/comment-page-1/#comment-194271 Rahul Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:42:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5036#comment-194271 <blockquote>and often <b>boring</b> nonprofit business</blockquote> <p>Is <i>that</i> what the kids are calling it these days?</p> and often boring nonprofit business

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

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By: manvantara http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/18/all_love_is_bro/comment-page-1/#comment-194266 manvantara Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:25:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5036#comment-194266 <p>Some items I noticed, on this article:</p> <p><i>"It’s more like a partnership formed to run a very small, mundane, and often boring nonprofit business.” Plus, she says, couples with kids don’t spend that much time together anyway. [Link]</i></p> <p>"often boring"?!This, from someone who is not married? That doesn't seem to carry much weight!</p> <p>She says, elsewhere, that <i>"Our culture has this view that you should just know if someone’s right for you..... ....And so often you’ll hear in fiction or film or TV, or even at people’s weddings, these accounts of “We knew from the very first date, or after two weeks, that we would end up together.”</i></p> <p>--this sounds like an arranged marriage to me, where you are expected to "just know", on the first meeting, if someone is right for you.</p> <p><i>I was so focused on true love that I hadn’t appreciated the purely practical benefits of having a husband. Not only does he contribute financially, help with the dishes, and share in the child care, but as his wife, if you want some companionship or physical intimacy, you don’t have to shave your legs, blow-dry your hair, find a puke-free outfit, apply lipstick, drive to a restaurant and sit through a tedious two-hour meal for the mere possibility of some heavy petting while the babysitter meter is ticking away. You don’t have to follow up with flirtatious e-mails or engage in time-consuming courtship rituals. You don’t even have to make conversation if you don’t feel like it.</i></p> <p>She seems to be focused not on "true love" as she claims, but whether he man is "hot", whether he is passionate...her focus is primarily on sex.</p> <p>One does not speak of the "practical benefits of having a husband" as if a husband is like...say a refrigerator! Or was she trying to be funny and am I missing the humor?!</p> Some items I noticed, on this article:

“It’s more like a partnership formed to run a very small, mundane, and often boring nonprofit business.” Plus, she says, couples with kids don’t spend that much time together anyway. [Link]

“often boring”?!This, from someone who is not married? That doesn’t seem to carry much weight!

She says, elsewhere, that “Our culture has this view that you should just know if someone’s right for you….. ….And so often you’ll hear in fiction or film or TV, or even at people’s weddings, these accounts of “We knew from the very first date, or after two weeks, that we would end up together.”

–this sounds like an arranged marriage to me, where you are expected to “just know”, on the first meeting, if someone is right for you.

I was so focused on true love that I hadn’t appreciated the purely practical benefits of having a husband. Not only does he contribute financially, help with the dishes, and share in the child care, but as his wife, if you want some companionship or physical intimacy, you don’t have to shave your legs, blow-dry your hair, find a puke-free outfit, apply lipstick, drive to a restaurant and sit through a tedious two-hour meal for the mere possibility of some heavy petting while the babysitter meter is ticking away. You don’t have to follow up with flirtatious e-mails or engage in time-consuming courtship rituals. You don’t even have to make conversation if you don’t feel like it.

She seems to be focused not on “true love” as she claims, but whether he man is “hot”, whether he is passionate…her focus is primarily on sex.

One does not speak of the “practical benefits of having a husband” as if a husband is like…say a refrigerator! Or was she trying to be funny and am I missing the humor?!

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By: Malibu Stacy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/18/all_love_is_bro/comment-page-1/#comment-194245 Malibu Stacy Tue, 19 Feb 2008 20:19:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5036#comment-194245 <p>As a DBA I can write about the situation in India reg arranged marriages. I have many cousins in India who are unmarried and getting on in age, their parents at this point have given up on arranged marriage and just want suitable boys. Some of these uncles and aunts used to be super strict but are facing reality and are more open to matches they wouldn't have considered before. Also horoscopes are not matched as strictly anymore as long as no major problem(Manglik!!)is found.</p> As a DBA I can write about the situation in India reg arranged marriages. I have many cousins in India who are unmarried and getting on in age, their parents at this point have given up on arranged marriage and just want suitable boys. Some of these uncles and aunts used to be super strict but are facing reality and are more open to matches they wouldn’t have considered before. Also horoscopes are not matched as strictly anymore as long as no major problem(Manglik!!)is found.

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By: bess http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/18/all_love_is_bro/comment-page-1/#comment-194227 bess Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:32:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5036#comment-194227 <p>Every parent meddles to some extent. One day my mother says to me, "I gave your phone number to a young man who came into my shop today." What?!!..."Oh, wait 'til you see him, he's so cute and so musical!"</p> <p>The guy was walking around downtown playing a piccolo! I've got nothing against musical types but I desperately hate the piccolo.</p> <p>I don't come from a culture that arranges marriages (thankfully, you see my mother's prime pick!) but the more I learn about arranged marriage the more I think it makes sense. The parents do all the work, you get to meet several potentials (a chance to see if the chemistry is right), you get all the details about the potential mate: education, health history, astrology!, family history and as I understand it, you get the final say. And, most importantly, the families are there to help the couple through any rough patches that always come up in a marriage. Every member of the family plays a role in the success of your marriage. That's some sound stuff.</p> Every parent meddles to some extent. One day my mother says to me, “I gave your phone number to a young man who came into my shop today.” What?!!…”Oh, wait ’til you see him, he’s so cute and so musical!”

The guy was walking around downtown playing a piccolo! I’ve got nothing against musical types but I desperately hate the piccolo.

I don’t come from a culture that arranges marriages (thankfully, you see my mother’s prime pick!) but the more I learn about arranged marriage the more I think it makes sense. The parents do all the work, you get to meet several potentials (a chance to see if the chemistry is right), you get all the details about the potential mate: education, health history, astrology!, family history and as I understand it, you get the final say. And, most importantly, the families are there to help the couple through any rough patches that always come up in a marriage. Every member of the family plays a role in the success of your marriage. That’s some sound stuff.

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By: Yo Dad http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/18/all_love_is_bro/comment-page-1/#comment-194226 Yo Dad Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:02:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5036#comment-194226 <p>Uncle Ennis: Hard Feelings ? Of course not....... There are uncles and there are "uncles"....</p> Uncle Ennis: Hard Feelings ? Of course not……. There are uncles and there are “uncles”….

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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/18/all_love_is_bro/comment-page-1/#comment-194222 Ennis Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:20:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5036#comment-194222 <blockquote>Ennis: Let me assure you that I am not one of those "Uncle" who would put any sort of "Burden of Meddlesome" on anyone, much less Abhi</blockquote> <p>Sorry, I used you as an example. It was just too good to pass up ... no hard feelings? [I was uncled at age 14 by some 5 year olds; the burden of the beard]</p> Ennis: Let me assure you that I am not one of those “Uncle” who would put any sort of “Burden of Meddlesome” on anyone, much less Abhi

Sorry, I used you as an example. It was just too good to pass up … no hard feelings? [I was uncled at age 14 by some 5 year olds; the burden of the beard]

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By: Camille http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/18/all_love_is_bro/comment-page-1/#comment-194219 Camille Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:49:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5036#comment-194219 <blockquote>Indian Parents and Marriage I guess one clear difference I see between Indian parents and Western parents when it comes to pestering their 30-something children to "marry and get settled down", is in the approach and decision making freedom. Western parents (or more often aunts) might try to set you up with someone on a date and ask you to call them, talk to them and spend time with them. Indian parents, first match horoscopes, then decide that the "family is good", they are respected and respectable people etc, all the aunts/uncles get familiarized with each other and then as some afterthought, ask the prospective bride and groom to be (note that they are already considered groom/bride) to talk to each other. So this places undue pressure and yet some dads keep repeating the statement, "just because you talk does not mean you are committing, don't be afraid and blah blah blah".</blockquote> <p>I think this depends on your parents :)</p> Indian Parents and Marriage I guess one clear difference I see between Indian parents and Western parents when it comes to pestering their 30-something children to “marry and get settled down”, is in the approach and decision making freedom. Western parents (or more often aunts) might try to set you up with someone on a date and ask you to call them, talk to them and spend time with them. Indian parents, first match horoscopes, then decide that the “family is good”, they are respected and respectable people etc, all the aunts/uncles get familiarized with each other and then as some afterthought, ask the prospective bride and groom to be (note that they are already considered groom/bride) to talk to each other. So this places undue pressure and yet some dads keep repeating the statement, “just because you talk does not mean you are committing, don’t be afraid and blah blah blah”.

I think this depends on your parents :)

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