Comments on: Join in and sing: “Sri Lanka Matha…” http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/04/join_in_and_sin_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Gabriel Konki http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/04/join_in_and_sin_1/comment-page-1/#comment-285340 Gabriel Konki Tue, 05 Jul 2011 18:55:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5006#comment-285340 <p>http://www.ft.lk/2011/01/28/gypsies-network-against-dwindling-numbers/</p> http://www.ft.lk/2011/01/28/gypsies-network-against-dwindling-numbers/

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By: kushal http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/04/join_in_and_sin_1/comment-page-1/#comment-281412 kushal Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:19:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5006#comment-281412 <p>Are there telugu people in sri lanka,in which areas they are concentrated.......because i found a wiki link stating telugus in sri lanka but they deletd it...???so plzzz can u tell are there telugus in sri lanka...</p> Are there telugu people in sri lanka,in which areas they are concentrated…….because i found a wiki link stating telugus in sri lanka but they deletd it…???so plzzz can u tell are there telugus in sri lanka…

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By: Chandana P. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/04/join_in_and_sin_1/comment-page-1/#comment-267288 Chandana P. Wed, 13 Jan 2010 09:58:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5006#comment-267288 <p>Some people are still seems to think that this country is independent after turning it in to a republic in 1970s.But that's not exactly the truth. Sri Lanka was independent until 1815, even though we had problems with Tamils & later with Portuguese, Dutch & Brits time to time. But after 1815, the governing system turned up side down replacing English Monarchy instead of Sinhalese Monarchy till 1948, by this time the governing system turned upside down once again because, Sri Lankan (then Ceylon) “Rajyasabha” was changed in to parliamentary system, electing leaders by peoples’ vote, in 1945, The Lanka Jathika Sangamaya, the parent of UNP was established. Till then leaders were not chosen by the peoples vote. But being independent by the Brits does not mean we’re still fully independent, because, we still are a part or a member of the British Commonwealth. Until we end our connection with the commonwealth, we are dependent to the Brits in one way or another, because, the head or the ruler or the leader of the Commonwealth is the British crown, king or queen of England of Britain. So…, do you still think that we’re fully independent…..? If we cannot elect a better president for this country, my guess is Sinhalese Monarchy should be restore for us, as we had in the past. Then who could be our king?</p> Some people are still seems to think that this country is independent after turning it in to a republic in 1970s.But that’s not exactly the truth. Sri Lanka was independent until 1815, even though we had problems with Tamils & later with Portuguese, Dutch & Brits time to time. But after 1815, the governing system turned up side down replacing English Monarchy instead of Sinhalese Monarchy till 1948, by this time the governing system turned upside down once again because, Sri Lankan (then Ceylon) “Rajyasabha” was changed in to parliamentary system, electing leaders by peoples’ vote, in 1945, The Lanka Jathika Sangamaya, the parent of UNP was established. Till then leaders were not chosen by the peoples vote. But being independent by the Brits does not mean we’re still fully independent, because, we still are a part or a member of the British Commonwealth. Until we end our connection with the commonwealth, we are dependent to the Brits in one way or another, because, the head or the ruler or the leader of the Commonwealth is the British crown, king or queen of England of Britain. So…, do you still think that we’re fully independent…..? If we cannot elect a better president for this country, my guess is Sinhalese Monarchy should be restore for us, as we had in the past. Then who could be our king?

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By: sanjeevakumar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/04/join_in_and_sin_1/comment-page-1/#comment-259454 sanjeevakumar Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:55:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5006#comment-259454 <p>Hi.. Good AfternooN.,,Andhra Pradesh. Visit:www.skycreation.in U have AnyWork,AnyService,AnyThing., Sadaa Mee Seeva Loo.,, SKYCREATION</p> Hi.. Good AfternooN.,,Andhra Pradesh. Visit:www.skycreation.in U have AnyWork,AnyService,AnyThing., Sadaa Mee Seeva Loo.,, SKYCREATION

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By: A N N A http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/04/join_in_and_sin_1/comment-page-1/#comment-192976 A N N A Sun, 10 Feb 2008 22:36:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5006#comment-192976 <p><i>43 · <b>Alphabet_rao</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005006.html#comment192940">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>What do you call ge nama in Malayalam? Do you call it "house name"?</blockquote> <p>Yes. :)</p> 43 · Alphabet_rao said

What do you call ge nama in Malayalam? Do you call it “house name”?

Yes. :)

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By: Akshay http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/04/join_in_and_sin_1/comment-page-1/#comment-192949 Akshay Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:07:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5006#comment-192949 <blockquote>That makes sense. The nayaka rajas of Madur<i>a</i>i are thought to be Telugus. It is possible, a branch of them were in Sri Lanka. This is not widely known in Andhra.</blockquote> <p>Was supposed to have gone out to play my guitar after my last comment. Couldn't resist; instead, I <a href="http://lakdiva.org/suntimes/070304/KandyTimes/514_kt1.html">googled</a>:- :-)</p> <blockquote>As King Sri Veera Parakrama Narendra Simha who succeeded Vimaradharmasuriya II [...] on his death bed he nominated his <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madurai_Nayaks">Vaduga Nayakkar</a> brother-in-laws of South Indian origin to succeed him [...] This led to the first South Indian Vaduga Nayakkar to ascend the Throne of Kandy under the Sinhalese name Sri Vijaya Rajasimha in 1739 AC, violating all ancient traditions of kingship. [...] The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayaks_of_Kandy">Vaduga Nayakkars</a> embraced Buddhism, learnt the Sinhalese language and made every effort to naturalise themselves, but cunningly avoided marrying into the local Radala families, the aristocracy. They went on to rule the Kandyan Kingdom for another seventy six years until the last of them, Sri Wickrama Rajasimha was dethroned in 1815 AC with the assistance of the British. (<i>wiki links mine</i>)</blockquote> <p>All this, of course, is a rather satisfying historical circle. For, between all those centuries of Shaivite and later Advaitic bhakti, the ancient kingdom of Andhras was in fact a vast <i>Buddhist</i> kingdom, second in size and power only to the Mauryas up north. This googling session also explains to me something I've always wondered: on why Sri Lanka is <i>Theravada</i> Buddhist, and not <i>Mahayana</i> like ancient India was, and modern China is.</p> That makes sense. The nayaka rajas of Madurai are thought to be Telugus. It is possible, a branch of them were in Sri Lanka. This is not widely known in Andhra.

Was supposed to have gone out to play my guitar after my last comment. Couldn’t resist; instead, I googled:- :-)

As King Sri Veera Parakrama Narendra Simha who succeeded Vimaradharmasuriya II [...] on his death bed he nominated his Vaduga Nayakkar brother-in-laws of South Indian origin to succeed him [...] This led to the first South Indian Vaduga Nayakkar to ascend the Throne of Kandy under the Sinhalese name Sri Vijaya Rajasimha in 1739 AC, violating all ancient traditions of kingship. [...] The Vaduga Nayakkars embraced Buddhism, learnt the Sinhalese language and made every effort to naturalise themselves, but cunningly avoided marrying into the local Radala families, the aristocracy. They went on to rule the Kandyan Kingdom for another seventy six years until the last of them, Sri Wickrama Rajasimha was dethroned in 1815 AC with the assistance of the British. (wiki links mine)

All this, of course, is a rather satisfying historical circle. For, between all those centuries of Shaivite and later Advaitic bhakti, the ancient kingdom of Andhras was in fact a vast Buddhist kingdom, second in size and power only to the Mauryas up north. This googling session also explains to me something I’ve always wondered: on why Sri Lanka is Theravada Buddhist, and not Mahayana like ancient India was, and modern China is.

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By: Akshay http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/04/join_in_and_sin_1/comment-page-1/#comment-192946 Akshay Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:10:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5006#comment-192946 <p><i>Telugu writers have mentioned that Ravana Brahma, the king of Lanka, is of Telugu origin. He was a great scholar. Some of the Telugu grammar rules (sutras) were attributed to him.</i> Lanka from Ramayana is <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/64691/Ramas-Bridge-or-Adams-Bridge#1836087">not the same as</a> <em>Sri</em> Lanka.</p> <p>Additionally, Telugu grammar came into being mostly after the 10th-12th centuries; significantly after the events in the Ramayana (if it indeed happened), or even, after the Satavahanas built their capital, Andhrapuri (There's an Andhra Jyothi article from 2005 that talked about Andhrapuri; I have the link , http://www.andhrajyothy.com/editshow.asp?qry=/2005/nove/21vividha2 , but it seems to be dead).</p> <p>Which is to say, Ravana could be <i>Andhra</i> (as in, belonging to the Vedic tribe, the Andhras; I really don't know much eitherways), but it is unlikely that he could have contributed to modern <i>Telugu</i> as such. He is, nevertheless, an <a href="http://www.stutimandal.com/gif_bhush/shiv_stuti_ravan.htm">accomplished poet</a> in Sanskrit.</p> Telugu writers have mentioned that Ravana Brahma, the king of Lanka, is of Telugu origin. He was a great scholar. Some of the Telugu grammar rules (sutras) were attributed to him. Lanka from Ramayana is not the same as Sri Lanka.

Additionally, Telugu grammar came into being mostly after the 10th-12th centuries; significantly after the events in the Ramayana (if it indeed happened), or even, after the Satavahanas built their capital, Andhrapuri (There’s an Andhra Jyothi article from 2005 that talked about Andhrapuri; I have the link , http://www.andhrajyothy.com/editshow.asp?qry=/2005/nove/21vividha2 , but it seems to be dead).

Which is to say, Ravana could be Andhra (as in, belonging to the Vedic tribe, the Andhras; I really don’t know much eitherways), but it is unlikely that he could have contributed to modern Telugu as such. He is, nevertheless, an accomplished poet in Sanskrit.

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By: Alphabet_rao http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/04/join_in_and_sin_1/comment-page-1/#comment-192940 Alphabet_rao Sun, 10 Feb 2008 06:42:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5006#comment-192940 <h1>41</h1> <blockquote>Sinhalese names such as Dissanayake, Ramanayake, Somanayake, Rajanayake reveal a Telugu connection with ther "nayak' suffixes</blockquote> <p>That makes sense. The nayaka rajas of Maduri are thought to be Telugus. It is possible, a branch of them were in Sri Lanka. This is not widely known in Andhra.</p> <p><b>ANNA</b> Said:</p> <blockquote>Malayalees do that, too.</blockquote> <p>What do you call <i>ge nama </i>in Malayalam? Do you call it "house name"?</p> 41
Sinhalese names such as Dissanayake, Ramanayake, Somanayake, Rajanayake reveal a Telugu connection with ther “nayak’ suffixes

That makes sense. The nayaka rajas of Maduri are thought to be Telugus. It is possible, a branch of them were in Sri Lanka. This is not widely known in Andhra.

ANNA Said:

Malayalees do that, too.

What do you call ge nama in Malayalam? Do you call it “house name”?

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By: A N N A http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/04/join_in_and_sin_1/comment-page-1/#comment-192938 A N N A Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:44:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5006#comment-192938 <p><i>39 · <b>Kushil</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/005006.html#comment192868">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>The ge nama always appears before a person's given name/s.</blockquote> <blockquote>The same system exists in Andhra Pradesh. ge nama is called inti paeru (literally, house name)in Telugu...Take the example of a Telugu person's name...Nandamuri Taraka Rama Rao</blockquote> <p>Malayalees do that, too. That's why I have an Uncle named Kulamasseril Isaac John. Theoretically. (i.e. don't look that up, I ain't dumb enough to reveal a <b>ge nama</b> on the intarweb.)</p> 39 · Kushil said

The ge nama always appears before a person’s given name/s.
The same system exists in Andhra Pradesh. ge nama is called inti paeru (literally, house name)in Telugu…Take the example of a Telugu person’s name…Nandamuri Taraka Rama Rao

Malayalees do that, too. That’s why I have an Uncle named Kulamasseril Isaac John. Theoretically. (i.e. don’t look that up, I ain’t dumb enough to reveal a ge nama on the intarweb.)

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By: Kushil http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/02/04/join_in_and_sin_1/comment-page-1/#comment-192933 Kushil Sun, 10 Feb 2008 04:08:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=5006#comment-192933 <p>Alphabet Rao, that certainly is very interesting and likely more than a coincidence. Seems like exactly the same system is used by both the Sinhalese and the Telugu people. Perhaps you didn't know, but the last king of Sri Lanka had Telugu origins and in many cases he was responsible for bestowing royal titles to people in his kingdom. Infact there was a lot of connections between the Kandyan Kingdom and the Telugu people including immigration; the connection between Sri Lanka and Andhra is not speculation :) Sinhalese names such as Dissanayake, Ramanayake, Somanayake, Rajanayake reveal a Telugu connection with ther "nayak' suffixes. Infact the current chief minister of Andhra Pradesh is called Rajasekhar, which is a common surname in Sri Lanka among the Sinhalese but spelt Rajasekara. Other variants are Jayasekara, Ramasekara, Somasekara, Rajasekara etc.</p> Alphabet Rao, that certainly is very interesting and likely more than a coincidence. Seems like exactly the same system is used by both the Sinhalese and the Telugu people. Perhaps you didn’t know, but the last king of Sri Lanka had Telugu origins and in many cases he was responsible for bestowing royal titles to people in his kingdom. Infact there was a lot of connections between the Kandyan Kingdom and the Telugu people including immigration; the connection between Sri Lanka and Andhra is not speculation :) Sinhalese names such as Dissanayake, Ramanayake, Somanayake, Rajanayake reveal a Telugu connection with ther “nayak’ suffixes. Infact the current chief minister of Andhra Pradesh is called Rajasekhar, which is a common surname in Sri Lanka among the Sinhalese but spelt Rajasekara. Other variants are Jayasekara, Ramasekara, Somasekara, Rajasekara etc.

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