Comments on: Engineers = Evil http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/31/engineers_evil/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anil C Rao http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/31/engineers_evil/comment-page-2/#comment-288668 Anil C Rao Sun, 04 Mar 2012 02:25:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4999#comment-288668 <p>If artists ruled the World can't say it would a good thing either.....every group outside Professionals in Civil Service are prone to do wierd things .....</p> If artists ruled the World can’t say it would a good thing either…..every group outside Professionals in Civil Service are prone to do wierd things …..

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By: Anil CS Rao http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/31/engineers_evil/comment-page-2/#comment-197880 Anil CS Rao Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:34:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4999#comment-197880 <p>BUT one can look at the span across the Hoogley or the Eiffel Tower as being somewhat akin to "art" - albeit "decorative"</p> BUT one can look at the span across the Hoogley or the Eiffel Tower as being somewhat akin to “art” - albeit “decorative”

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By: Anil CS Rao http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/31/engineers_evil/comment-page-2/#comment-197878 Anil CS Rao Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:03:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4999#comment-197878 <p>Tell me about it!</p> <p>I had to put up with these EVIL human beings for the past 15 years after I graduated with an EE degree</p> <p>I had to be "de-programmed" though use of illegal subtances to realize what vile people these Engineers (and Allopathic MDs) are!</p> Tell me about it!

I had to put up with these EVIL human beings for the past 15 years after I graduated with an EE degree

I had to be “de-programmed” though use of illegal subtances to realize what vile people these Engineers (and Allopathic MDs) are!

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By: Prof Calculus http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/31/engineers_evil/comment-page-2/#comment-192776 Prof Calculus Fri, 08 Feb 2008 01:28:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4999#comment-192776 <p>Relax guys It was a misguided spoof. I guess I need a crash course in creative writing from the nearest center for humanities training, art appreciation and liberal progressive though...Rats! there I go again.</p> Relax guys It was a misguided spoof. I guess I need a crash course in creative writing from the nearest center for humanities training, art appreciation and liberal progressive though…Rats! there I go again.

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By: Engineer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/31/engineers_evil/comment-page-2/#comment-192545 Engineer Wed, 06 Feb 2008 23:17:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4999#comment-192545 <blockquote>It is a well known fact that students who have a low IQ,and are generally talentless at anything other than wasting their parent\'s hard earned money take up humanities.</blockquote> <p>I am not sure about IQ but usually BA gets last preference from students in India, it is considered a timepass and namesake degree.</p> It is a well known fact that students who have a low IQ,and are generally talentless at anything other than wasting their parent\’s hard earned money take up humanities.

I am not sure about IQ but usually BA gets last preference from students in India, it is considered a timepass and namesake degree.

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By: Preeti http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/31/engineers_evil/comment-page-2/#comment-192432 Preeti Wed, 06 Feb 2008 03:36:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4999#comment-192432 <p>Professor Calculus,</p> <p>Herge would be turning in his grave were he to know that he has readers like you. You are breathtakingly cynical and breathtakingly stupid. That's a a combination guaranteed to lead to self-destruction. Its also probably why the other posters have wisely decided to ignore you. It means they don't even think its worth their while flaming you. How pathtic is that?</p> <p>You're just a sad guy who never grew up. Preeti</p> Professor Calculus,

Herge would be turning in his grave were he to know that he has readers like you. You are breathtakingly cynical and breathtakingly stupid. That’s a a combination guaranteed to lead to self-destruction. Its also probably why the other posters have wisely decided to ignore you. It means they don’t even think its worth their while flaming you. How pathtic is that?

You’re just a sad guy who never grew up. Preeti

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By: Sisyphus http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/31/engineers_evil/comment-page-2/#comment-192232 Sisyphus Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:16:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4999#comment-192232 <p>Sakshi, right on. The problem is that these people have no clue about the social position of engineering certain parts of the world or the complex reasons for why this is so. They are generalizing their parochial worldview to what they do not know and do not understand.</p> Sakshi, right on. The problem is that these people have no clue about the social position of engineering certain parts of the world or the complex reasons for why this is so. They are generalizing their parochial worldview to what they do not know and do not understand.

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By: sakshi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/31/engineers_evil/comment-page-2/#comment-192161 sakshi Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:08:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4999#comment-192161 <blockquote>in all the cases they have good data, engineers are not overrepresented in right-wing groups</blockquote> <p>That is, <i>extremist</i> right-wing groups.</p> in all the cases they have good data, engineers are not overrepresented in right-wing groups

That is, extremist right-wing groups.

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By: sakshi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/31/engineers_evil/comment-page-2/#comment-192159 sakshi Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:58:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4999#comment-192159 <blockquote>An example: My dad is certainly mod left (economically centrist, socially mod left), and he is extensively opposed to California (and the country's) pattern of prioritizing prison expansion and incarceration over social spending and higher education spending. However, he's a structural engineer, and until the last 10 years, his firm was heavily involved in building prisons around the country during the economic recession because it was the only work they could find. While he's changed his mind since then, at the time he didn't see this as connected to or related to his political concerns.</blockquote> <p>A nice way of looking at this would be to say that he is willing to go along with the national consensus even when it disagrees with his personal opinions. At worst this can be seen as personal opportunism or hypocrisy. But nothing about this suggests an inordinate faith in one's beliefs.</p> <p>Incidentally, I am down with a fever, so was bored enough to read through part of the report, and in all the cases they have good data, engineers are not overrepresented in right-wing groups: they admit that engineers were not overrepresented among Nazis, or neo-Nazis. They seem to be underrepresented (4 out of 10,703) among Italian fascist (so we know all these terroristy engineers are Islamic but not Islamofascists ;) ) . The case they seem to be making, on really iffy data, that there is something special about <i>Islamic</i> extremism that appeals to engineers like nothing has done before. I hope IEEE sues them for libel ;) .</p> An example: My dad is certainly mod left (economically centrist, socially mod left), and he is extensively opposed to California (and the country’s) pattern of prioritizing prison expansion and incarceration over social spending and higher education spending. However, he’s a structural engineer, and until the last 10 years, his firm was heavily involved in building prisons around the country during the economic recession because it was the only work they could find. While he’s changed his mind since then, at the time he didn’t see this as connected to or related to his political concerns.

A nice way of looking at this would be to say that he is willing to go along with the national consensus even when it disagrees with his personal opinions. At worst this can be seen as personal opportunism or hypocrisy. But nothing about this suggests an inordinate faith in one’s beliefs.

Incidentally, I am down with a fever, so was bored enough to read through part of the report, and in all the cases they have good data, engineers are not overrepresented in right-wing groups: they admit that engineers were not overrepresented among Nazis, or neo-Nazis. They seem to be underrepresented (4 out of 10,703) among Italian fascist (so we know all these terroristy engineers are Islamic but not Islamofascists ;) ) . The case they seem to be making, on really iffy data, that there is something special about Islamic extremism that appeals to engineers like nothing has done before. I hope IEEE sues them for libel ;) .

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By: Camille http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/31/engineers_evil/comment-page-2/#comment-192146 Camille Sun, 03 Feb 2008 15:28:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4999#comment-192146 <p>sakshi, there is a difference between political outlook re: Dem/Republican and political outlook re: things like, the role of the state, the role of defense, etc., right? I've met tons of engineers with strong political affiliations (most self-identified moderate to mod-left with a healthy chunk of conservatives), but we differ on things like the role of the state, the role of the university, opinions on the political economy of science funding, etc.</p> <p>An example: My dad is certainly mod left (economically centrist, socially mod left), and he is extensively opposed to California (and the country's) pattern of prioritizing prison expansion and incarceration over social spending and higher education spending. However, he's a structural engineer, and until the last 10 years, his firm was heavily involved in building prisons around the country during the economic recession because it was the only work they could find. While he's changed his mind since then, at the time he didn't see this as connected to or related to his political concerns.</p> <p>That said, I think that application is true in many other fields, as well, I just find it happening more often in engineering where so much of people's research money comes from defense, etc., that it seems more normalized.</p> sakshi, there is a difference between political outlook re: Dem/Republican and political outlook re: things like, the role of the state, the role of defense, etc., right? I’ve met tons of engineers with strong political affiliations (most self-identified moderate to mod-left with a healthy chunk of conservatives), but we differ on things like the role of the state, the role of the university, opinions on the political economy of science funding, etc.

An example: My dad is certainly mod left (economically centrist, socially mod left), and he is extensively opposed to California (and the country’s) pattern of prioritizing prison expansion and incarceration over social spending and higher education spending. However, he’s a structural engineer, and until the last 10 years, his firm was heavily involved in building prisons around the country during the economic recession because it was the only work they could find. While he’s changed his mind since then, at the time he didn’t see this as connected to or related to his political concerns.

That said, I think that application is true in many other fields, as well, I just find it happening more often in engineering where so much of people’s research money comes from defense, etc., that it seems more normalized.

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