Comments on: Another DBD PhD Student Murdered http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/21/another_dbd_phd_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: PS http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/21/another_dbd_phd_1/comment-page-8/#comment-198763 PS Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:55:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4978#comment-198763 <p>This makes me so happy. I'm a tarheel alum and my sis is there now and she was very effected by Eve carson's death. She knew her somewhat as they were both bio majors and my sis thought she was such a lovely girl. But we both couldn't help but think that the news of the indian student's death at Duke got nada attention or the Indian grad students at La state univ.</p> <p>We did go thru in our minds, "Well Eve was student body president...a more prominent position than a typical student, so perhaps that's why she got more coverage". But I can't help but think there was some bias, that may have also effected the police's efforts in capturing the killer. Perhaps if they had put more effort and if more attention had been given the Indian Duke student, than Eve's untimely death could have been avoided too.</p> This makes me so happy. I’m a tarheel alum and my sis is there now and she was very effected by Eve carson’s death. She knew her somewhat as they were both bio majors and my sis thought she was such a lovely girl. But we both couldn’t help but think that the news of the indian student’s death at Duke got nada attention or the Indian grad students at La state univ.

We did go thru in our minds, “Well Eve was student body president…a more prominent position than a typical student, so perhaps that’s why she got more coverage”. But I can’t help but think there was some bias, that may have also effected the police’s efforts in capturing the killer. Perhaps if they had put more effort and if more attention had been given the Indian Duke student, than Eve’s untimely death could have been avoided too.

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/21/another_dbd_phd_1/comment-page-8/#comment-198762 Rahul Tue, 08 Apr 2008 01:47:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4978#comment-198762 <p>Duke honors Mahato <a href="http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/apr/07aziz.htm">with a fellowship</a>.</p> Duke honors Mahato with a fellowship.

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By: Mary Mary Not Contrary http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/21/another_dbd_phd_1/comment-page-8/#comment-196817 Mary Mary Not Contrary Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:38:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4978#comment-196817 <p>Two tragic stories intersect: <a href="http://www.newsobserver.com/2811/story/998319.html">UNC student body president Eve Carson's co-murderer also charged as part of Abhijit Mahato's murder</a>.</p> Two tragic stories intersect: UNC student body president Eve Carson’s co-murderer also charged as part of Abhijit Mahato’s murder.

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By: cbz http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/21/another_dbd_phd_1/comment-page-8/#comment-191452 cbz Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:56:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4978#comment-191452 <p>I just wanted to chime in here and say that this was not a hate crime, but a random stupid act. Stephen Oates lived right next door to me and is not a hood rat or ghetto trash or anything like that at all. As a matter of fact, he lives in probably one of the nicest houses on the block-- he's just a stupid kid that got going into stuff that got way out of his control. He and William Smith and William's younger brother broke into my house in the spring and stole a PS2, an Xbox and several other things and thanks to the city of Durham, only spent 2 months behind bars even though they were both on parole and had a warrant against them for a break-in at Stephen's mom's house after she kicked him out. I can't express how sorry I am that this brilliant mind is no longer here because of a bad seed from my neighborhood.</p> I just wanted to chime in here and say that this was not a hate crime, but a random stupid act. Stephen Oates lived right next door to me and is not a hood rat or ghetto trash or anything like that at all. As a matter of fact, he lives in probably one of the nicest houses on the block– he’s just a stupid kid that got going into stuff that got way out of his control. He and William Smith and William’s younger brother broke into my house in the spring and stole a PS2, an Xbox and several other things and thanks to the city of Durham, only spent 2 months behind bars even though they were both on parole and had a warrant against them for a break-in at Stephen’s mom’s house after she kicked him out. I can’t express how sorry I am that this brilliant mind is no longer here because of a bad seed from my neighborhood.

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By: SM Intern http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/21/another_dbd_phd_1/comment-page-8/#comment-191179 SM Intern Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:20:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4978#comment-191179 <blockquote>Are Reality Check's/Prema's comments going to be deleted?</blockquote> <p>Yes, but you should know that your commenting on the thread helped bring it to our attention. If stuff like that stays up, often it's because we don't know about it.</p> Are Reality Check’s/Prema’s comments going to be deleted?

Yes, but you should know that your commenting on the thread helped bring it to our attention. If stuff like that stays up, often it’s because we don’t know about it.

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By: nala http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/21/another_dbd_phd_1/comment-page-8/#comment-191178 nala Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:14:43 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4978#comment-191178 <blockquote> SM's also a lot more dangerous than a naked drunken walk through South Jamaica on Halloween night with all the verbal shanking going on. Funniest sentence evah! JJ, I will make sure the shiv in your back is never mine.</blockquote> <p>I have to agree - great metaphor, JJ. :) And oops on the ABD thing. Though I'm a 1.5 too and I guess that if you've been raised for the most part on the U.S. sometimes you pretty much are an ABD.</p> <p>Are Reality Check's/Prema's comments going to be deleted?</p> SM’s also a lot more dangerous than a naked drunken walk through South Jamaica on Halloween night with all the verbal shanking going on. Funniest sentence evah! JJ, I will make sure the shiv in your back is never mine.

I have to agree – great metaphor, JJ. :) And oops on the ABD thing. Though I’m a 1.5 too and I guess that if you’ve been raised for the most part on the U.S. sometimes you pretty much are an ABD.

Are Reality Check’s/Prema’s comments going to be deleted?

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By: Vikram http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/21/another_dbd_phd_1/comment-page-8/#comment-191105 Vikram Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:10:41 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4978#comment-191105 <blockquote> Reread my comment, and see if you can refute that, not your paraphrase of it which calls Jews silly, exhorts them to be gassed, and ignores my question about gang violence. </blockquote> <p>You questioned whether guns could have protected Jews from Hitler, calling it a "silly claim". The Jews in Warsaw were from that point of view indulging in a "silly" exercise then weren't they ? I didn't make any exhortation, merely pointed out what would have quickly happened if they had been convinced their rebellion was silly, since they were resorting to a poorly armed, doomed fight against a heavily armed enemy. Apparently the sacrcasm in my statement was missed.</p> <p>Ok... using the logic of criminal gangs use of guns(who are anyway banned by law from gun ownership) as a reason ban legal access to guns for defensive purposes is like banning cars because illegal high speed street racers kill themselves and bystanders with their extreme actions. Do you think the 100 million or so car owners who mostly use their vehicles for commuting/business should have all their driving privileges/cars taken away because of what those street drifters do ?</p> <p>What was the personal insult in my earlier response ?</p> Reread my comment, and see if you can refute that, not your paraphrase of it which calls Jews silly, exhorts them to be gassed, and ignores my question about gang violence.

You questioned whether guns could have protected Jews from Hitler, calling it a “silly claim”. The Jews in Warsaw were from that point of view indulging in a “silly” exercise then weren’t they ? I didn’t make any exhortation, merely pointed out what would have quickly happened if they had been convinced their rebellion was silly, since they were resorting to a poorly armed, doomed fight against a heavily armed enemy. Apparently the sacrcasm in my statement was missed.

Ok… using the logic of criminal gangs use of guns(who are anyway banned by law from gun ownership) as a reason ban legal access to guns for defensive purposes is like banning cars because illegal high speed street racers kill themselves and bystanders with their extreme actions. Do you think the 100 million or so car owners who mostly use their vehicles for commuting/business should have all their driving privileges/cars taken away because of what those street drifters do ?

What was the personal insult in my earlier response ?

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/21/another_dbd_phd_1/comment-page-8/#comment-191094 Rahul Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:26:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4978#comment-191094 <blockquote>Yes, too bad you weren't around to tell those "silly" Jews in Warsaw in '43 to lay down their weapons since their meagre arsenal would only delay their inevitable fate at the hands of the far superior German forces. Better to line up meekly for their dose of Zyklon-B. Sorry I don't have a youtube link.</blockquote> <p>Reread my comment, and see if you can refute that, not your paraphrase of it which calls Jews silly, exhorts them to be gassed, and ignores my question about gang violence.</p> <p>I do accept your apology, though, but I am not going to get into a further discussion with you, since you seem to be more interested in personal insults than actually making your case.</p> Yes, too bad you weren’t around to tell those “silly” Jews in Warsaw in ’43 to lay down their weapons since their meagre arsenal would only delay their inevitable fate at the hands of the far superior German forces. Better to line up meekly for their dose of Zyklon-B. Sorry I don’t have a youtube link.

Reread my comment, and see if you can refute that, not your paraphrase of it which calls Jews silly, exhorts them to be gassed, and ignores my question about gang violence.

I do accept your apology, though, but I am not going to get into a further discussion with you, since you seem to be more interested in personal insults than actually making your case.

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By: Bridget Jones http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/21/another_dbd_phd_1/comment-page-8/#comment-191076 Bridget Jones Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:32:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4978#comment-191076 <blockquote>183 · Roger said For the Indian government to issue a 'warning' is ridiculous</blockquote> <p><i>184 · <B>Jangali Jaanwar</B> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004978.html#comment190741">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>183 · Roger said For the Indian government to issue a 'warning' is ridiculous</blockquote> <p>In future when the difference between living in US and India becomes less and less, current demands of higher standards from the world in terms of travel warnings for US citizens, health check-up reports etc for visitors to US, will be replicated by India in the areas of safety of living, human rights ( religious freedom, racism ), quality of life in US etc. This will be an inevitable effect of equalization of standard of living. Very long you may very well see "Amnesty International of India" poking into US. You can see it very well happening wrt to global warming where the US has poor record.</p> 183 · Roger said For the Indian government to issue a ‘warning’ is ridiculous

184 · Jangali Jaanwar said

183 · Roger said For the Indian government to issue a ‘warning’ is ridiculous

In future when the difference between living in US and India becomes less and less, current demands of higher standards from the world in terms of travel warnings for US citizens, health check-up reports etc for visitors to US, will be replicated by India in the areas of safety of living, human rights ( religious freedom, racism ), quality of life in US etc. This will be an inevitable effect of equalization of standard of living. Very long you may very well see “Amnesty International of India” poking into US. You can see it very well happening wrt to global warming where the US has poor record.

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By: amaun http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/21/another_dbd_phd_1/comment-page-7/#comment-191065 amaun Thu, 24 Jan 2008 17:10:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4978#comment-191065 <p>I am glad this discussion took place. I mean that. The DBDs I hung out with did the best we could for a semester. Remember, this was the late 80s. No Indian student assoc at this place, International student org existed but wasn't staffed to handle the issues we had, and no RA/TA money. We did provide feedback to the Intl Student Org the reason for transferring out. Knowing what I know now about law enforcement we would have done things differently.</p> I am glad this discussion took place. I mean that. The DBDs I hung out with did the best we could for a semester. Remember, this was the late 80s. No Indian student assoc at this place, International student org existed but wasn’t staffed to handle the issues we had, and no RA/TA money. We did provide feedback to the Intl Student Org the reason for transferring out. Knowing what I know now about law enforcement we would have done things differently.

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