Comments on: Been Caught Stealing http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/09/police_beat_chi/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Dean http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/09/police_beat_chi/comment-page-1/#comment-191254 Dean Fri, 25 Jan 2008 21:48:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4952#comment-191254 <p>Ruby Dhalla’s comments are being taken out of context. She wasn’t aware of the allegations that the kids were beaten when she said that she “hopes they learned a lesson”. She actually asked the people at the conference to forgive the children for what they did and further asked the authorities to show leniency and guarantee the safety of the children. I think she’s being unfairly smeared.</p> Ruby Dhalla’s comments are being taken out of context. She wasn’t aware of the allegations that the kids were beaten when she said that she “hopes they learned a lesson”. She actually asked the people at the conference to forgive the children for what they did and further asked the authorities to show leniency and guarantee the safety of the children. I think she’s being unfairly smeared.

]]> By: raj http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/09/police_beat_chi/comment-page-1/#comment-188883 raj Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:13:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4952#comment-188883 <p>unfortunately Ruby is Mp of the marea i live in.. the story here isnt the police<code>s reaction, i grew up in punjab, the beating is pretty normal punjab police procedure, routine but wrong nonetheless.. Now on to the real issue, ruby</code>s reaction, the MP from Canada where human rights are supposed to be respected... to paraphrase what ruby said "i hope they learned their lesson" which she backtracked on once the story broke. saying "i wanna visit them to show my care and compassion" took the words right out of her publicist's mouth im sure.</p> <p>ps: Ruby`s ambition was to get into bollywood, made some lameass movie too i think in toronto. just by fluke got this MP thing(got nomination for libral party, ran in an area where libral party was pretty much guranteed to win)</p> <p>make of it what u will.......</p> unfortunately Ruby is Mp of the marea i live in.. the story here isnt the polices reaction, i grew up in punjab, the beating is pretty normal punjab police procedure, routine but wrong nonetheless.. Now on to the real issue, rubys reaction, the MP from Canada where human rights are supposed to be respected… to paraphrase what ruby said “i hope they learned their lesson” which she backtracked on once the story broke. saying “i wanna visit them to show my care and compassion” took the words right out of her publicist’s mouth im sure.

ps: Ruby`s ambition was to get into bollywood, made some lameass movie too i think in toronto. just by fluke got this MP thing(got nomination for libral party, ran in an area where libral party was pretty much guranteed to win)

make of it what u will…….

]]> By: Mankanwal http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/09/police_beat_chi/comment-page-1/#comment-188481 Mankanwal Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:20:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4952#comment-188481 <p><i>37 · <b><a href="mailto:suki1328@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">Clueless</a></b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004952.html#comment188087">said</a></i></p> <blockquote>I was joking about the punjabi bashing on this website. Any of the regular people know that I'm the biggest basher of anything punjabi here. </blockquote> <p>sorry, i didn't realize</p> 37 · Clueless said

I was joking about the punjabi bashing on this website. Any of the regular people know that I’m the biggest basher of anything punjabi here.

sorry, i didn’t realize

]]> By: D2 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/09/police_beat_chi/comment-page-1/#comment-188479 D2 Sun, 13 Jan 2008 00:03:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4952#comment-188479 <p>When commenting about this issue to the Canadian media, she said that she was not aware that these children were beaten until much later. So her saying "I hope they learn from their mistake" right after isn't a "good they were beaten" but rather a "thank God they were caught and can be educated into not stealing anymore". I've seen her on The Rick Mercer show last year and she seemed like an alright person. :-/</p> When commenting about this issue to the Canadian media, she said that she was not aware that these children were beaten until much later. So her saying “I hope they learn from their mistake” right after isn’t a “good they were beaten” but rather a “thank God they were caught and can be educated into not stealing anymore”. I’ve seen her on The Rick Mercer show last year and she seemed like an alright person. :-/

]]> By: retorts http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/09/police_beat_chi/comment-page-1/#comment-188457 retorts Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:22:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4952#comment-188457 <p><a href="http://www.thestar.com/News/World/article/293389">update</a></p> <p><</p> <p>blockquote>The heart-rending tale of the stolen purse and the street urchins beaten black and blue – spiced up by a supposedly hard-hearted Indo-Canadian MP – has vanished from the pages of the Indian media as fast as it hurtled into the headlines.</p> <p>In the aftermath, Indian police are now denying any beating took place; visiting MP Ruby Dhalla denies she showed insensitivity toward the plight of the waifs; and questions are being asked about whether the Indian media pounced on an easy target – non-resident Indians visiting from Canada.</p> <p><</p> <p>blockquote></p> update

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blockquote>The heart-rending tale of the stolen purse and the street urchins beaten black and blue – spiced up by a supposedly hard-hearted Indo-Canadian MP – has vanished from the pages of the Indian media as fast as it hurtled into the headlines.

In the aftermath, Indian police are now denying any beating took place; visiting MP Ruby Dhalla denies she showed insensitivity toward the plight of the waifs; and questions are being asked about whether the Indian media pounced on an easy target – non-resident Indians visiting from Canada.

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]]> By: Amitabh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/09/police_beat_chi/comment-page-1/#comment-188226 Amitabh Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:22:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4952#comment-188226 <h1>40, it should be ZINDAGI <b>AISI</b> HAI.</h1> 40, it should be ZINDAGI AISI HAI.]]> By: Zindagi aisa hai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/09/police_beat_chi/comment-page-1/#comment-188172 Zindagi aisa hai Fri, 11 Jan 2008 19:00:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4952#comment-188172 <blockquote>Does anybody know that caste of the 2 young kids who were beaten by the police. Why do I feel they were of lower caste, and the cops who beat them more then likely Jatt's.</blockquote> <blockquote>Although your statement on the face of it seems inflammatory, I would agree there is a caste basis to a lot of violence in India. In India people only beat those they deem socially lower (or equal) to themselves. Undoubtedly these were "lower caste" kids. In addition to being poor and voiceless. Which is why the police felt so safe to beat them with impunity.</blockquote> <p>Maybe, maybe not.</p> <p>More than caste, these days it's class. If these kids looked poor and scruffy, then could be brahmins of the highest order and they would still get beaten. There is sometimes no way of knowing somebody's caste, even surnames do not provide that info in many cases.</p> <p>The police in India have a superiority complex sometimes and feel they are at liberty to beat almost anyone.</p> <p>Money is and influence is generally the deciding factor. Police in India appear to be really intimadated by wealthy persons, or well dressed persons driving nice cars. They wouldn't dare do this to them, but they would pull them over for no reason in hopes of getting paid off.</p> Does anybody know that caste of the 2 young kids who were beaten by the police. Why do I feel they were of lower caste, and the cops who beat them more then likely Jatt’s.
Although your statement on the face of it seems inflammatory, I would agree there is a caste basis to a lot of violence in India. In India people only beat those they deem socially lower (or equal) to themselves. Undoubtedly these were “lower caste” kids. In addition to being poor and voiceless. Which is why the police felt so safe to beat them with impunity.

Maybe, maybe not.

More than caste, these days it’s class. If these kids looked poor and scruffy, then could be brahmins of the highest order and they would still get beaten. There is sometimes no way of knowing somebody’s caste, even surnames do not provide that info in many cases.

The police in India have a superiority complex sometimes and feel they are at liberty to beat almost anyone.

Money is and influence is generally the deciding factor. Police in India appear to be really intimadated by wealthy persons, or well dressed persons driving nice cars. They wouldn’t dare do this to them, but they would pull them over for no reason in hopes of getting paid off.

]]> By: Amitabh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/09/police_beat_chi/comment-page-1/#comment-188094 Amitabh Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:24:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4952#comment-188094 <blockquote>Does anybody know that caste of the 2 young kids who were beaten by the police. Why do I feel they were of lower caste, and the cops who beat them more then likely Jatt's.</blockquote> <p>Although your statement on the face of it seems inflammatory, I would agree there is a caste basis to a lot of violence in India. In India people only beat those they deem socially lower (or equal) to themselves. Undoubtedly these were "lower caste" kids. In addition to being poor and voiceless. Which is why the police felt so safe to beat them with impunity.</p> Does anybody know that caste of the 2 young kids who were beaten by the police. Why do I feel they were of lower caste, and the cops who beat them more then likely Jatt’s.

Although your statement on the face of it seems inflammatory, I would agree there is a caste basis to a lot of violence in India. In India people only beat those they deem socially lower (or equal) to themselves. Undoubtedly these were “lower caste” kids. In addition to being poor and voiceless. Which is why the police felt so safe to beat them with impunity.

]]> By: Clueless http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/09/police_beat_chi/comment-page-1/#comment-188090 Clueless Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:12:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4952#comment-188090 <p>Does anybody know that caste of the 2 young kids who were beaten by the police. Why do I feel they were of lower caste, and the cops who beat them more then likely Jatt's.</p> <p>With Ms.Dhalla being a strong punjabi women. Did she during her visit to the Punjab bring up the issues of the female/male birth ratio of the Punjab or also the 15,000 punjabi women[most of them of sikh background] who married western punjabi men, but were abandoned by there husbands who took the money and run.</p> <p>Does anybody know if Ms.Dhalla talked about these issues.</p> Does anybody know that caste of the 2 young kids who were beaten by the police. Why do I feel they were of lower caste, and the cops who beat them more then likely Jatt’s.

With Ms.Dhalla being a strong punjabi women. Did she during her visit to the Punjab bring up the issues of the female/male birth ratio of the Punjab or also the 15,000 punjabi women[most of them of sikh background] who married western punjabi men, but were abandoned by there husbands who took the money and run.

Does anybody know if Ms.Dhalla talked about these issues.

]]> By: Clueless http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/09/police_beat_chi/comment-page-1/#comment-188087 Clueless Fri, 11 Jan 2008 07:07:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4952#comment-188087 <p>I was joking about the punjabi bashing on this website. Any of the regular people know that I'm the biggest basher of anything punjabi here.</p> I was joking about the punjabi bashing on this website. Any of the regular people know that I’m the biggest basher of anything punjabi here.

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