Comments on: Cricket: Ponting tells on Singh, is now that annoying kid we all hate for being lame. http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/08/cricket_ponting/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: flygirl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/08/cricket_ponting/comment-page-12/#comment-193121 flygirl Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:42:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4948#comment-193121 <p>[and now we must do the dance of joy]</p> [and now we must do the dance of joy]

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By: bytewords http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/08/cricket_ponting/comment-page-12/#comment-192964 bytewords Sun, 10 Feb 2008 18:27:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4948#comment-192964 <p>they still fought tooth and nail, but... they lost :))))</p> they still fought tooth and nail, but… they lost :) )))

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By: flygirl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/08/cricket_ponting/comment-page-12/#comment-192947 flygirl Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:19:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4948#comment-192947 <p>People...Australia all out for under 200..I don't think that's happened since the 1980s..</p> People…Australia all out for under 200..I don’t think that’s happened since the 1980s..

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By: flygirl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/08/cricket_ponting/comment-page-12/#comment-192808 flygirl Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:56:28 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4948#comment-192808 <p>Yeah...49th over is kind of a bit late for the wicket onslaught, lads.</p> Yeah…49th over is kind of a bit late for the wicket onslaught, lads.

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By: flygirl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/08/cricket_ponting/comment-page-12/#comment-192807 flygirl Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:54:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4948#comment-192807 <p>bytewords me old mate, just realised the match is on (oh, the shame!)</p> bytewords me old mate, just realised the match is on (oh, the shame!)

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By: bytewords http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/08/cricket_ponting/comment-page-12/#comment-192798 bytewords Fri, 08 Feb 2008 05:22:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4948#comment-192798 <p>flygirl, hayden is out.</p> flygirl, hayden is out.

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By: flygirl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/08/cricket_ponting/comment-page-11/#comment-191818 flygirl Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:22:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4948#comment-191818 <p>Sulabh, perhaps you are more attuned to the nature and strategies of brinkmanship, which is something I'm not a fan of :-D. You may be right that it expedited the process. While I was happy for appeals and a degree of fuss to be made - let's face it, the Aussies need their comeuppance, as I've said before - I prefer to answer detractors on the field. It still doesn't take away the fact that India could not hold its second innings in the second Test. I'm not keen on the idea of a BCCI bully in addition to the ICC and ACB, since bullies really only take care of themselves. Maybe the BCCI could also focus on producing the best cricket team in the world, which you would expect India to be capable of creating with its population, talent pool and money.</p> <p>Having bitched and whined, I have to say this Test series has been enthralling - from the first innings of Test 2 when it looked like Australia had a challenger at last, and India looked like it actually would pull it together (at last! at last!) into a great performance. I feel rather bereft now that it's over, it's more fun than a one-dayer triangular series which always gets me through a summer. Almost.</p> <p>I agree that the Aussie media and a large section of Aussie society lives in a make-believe world when it comes to their sports stars (the Iraq analogy is ever so slightly excessive?). Delusional, perhaps, is the best word for it. I think the Kiwi judge did a good job and I am happy to see that the process brought about a better outcome. The next step (in addition to disciplining Singh who clearly need to be reined in) is to tackle sledging more formally and fully.</p> <p>You're quoting the Hun - sorry, Herald-Sun? ;-) I wouldn't put it past Ranatunga. When he came in 95-96 there was the same level of acrimony. He has honorary doctorates in getting under Aussie skin for sure! But with all of the acrimony he did'nt' pull out - and remember that our top bowlers right to play the game itself was under constant attack - so I think it's Ranatunga being himself, as usual.</p> <p>Oh, and the fourth test: shame it was a draw, but that's Adelaide, I guess. It's always high scoring batter's pitch and England lost there last year after scoring 551.</p> Sulabh, perhaps you are more attuned to the nature and strategies of brinkmanship, which is something I’m not a fan of :-D . You may be right that it expedited the process. While I was happy for appeals and a degree of fuss to be made – let’s face it, the Aussies need their comeuppance, as I’ve said before – I prefer to answer detractors on the field. It still doesn’t take away the fact that India could not hold its second innings in the second Test. I’m not keen on the idea of a BCCI bully in addition to the ICC and ACB, since bullies really only take care of themselves. Maybe the BCCI could also focus on producing the best cricket team in the world, which you would expect India to be capable of creating with its population, talent pool and money.

Having bitched and whined, I have to say this Test series has been enthralling – from the first innings of Test 2 when it looked like Australia had a challenger at last, and India looked like it actually would pull it together (at last! at last!) into a great performance. I feel rather bereft now that it’s over, it’s more fun than a one-dayer triangular series which always gets me through a summer. Almost.

I agree that the Aussie media and a large section of Aussie society lives in a make-believe world when it comes to their sports stars (the Iraq analogy is ever so slightly excessive?). Delusional, perhaps, is the best word for it. I think the Kiwi judge did a good job and I am happy to see that the process brought about a better outcome. The next step (in addition to disciplining Singh who clearly need to be reined in) is to tackle sledging more formally and fully.

You’re quoting the Hun – sorry, Herald-Sun? ;-) I wouldn’t put it past Ranatunga. When he came in 95-96 there was the same level of acrimony. He has honorary doctorates in getting under Aussie skin for sure! But with all of the acrimony he did’nt’ pull out – and remember that our top bowlers right to play the game itself was under constant attack – so I think it’s Ranatunga being himself, as usual.

Oh, and the fourth test: shame it was a draw, but that’s Adelaide, I guess. It’s always high scoring batter’s pitch and England lost there last year after scoring 551.

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By: Sulabh http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/08/cricket_ponting/comment-page-11/#comment-191815 Sulabh Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:24:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4948#comment-191815 <blockquote> <blockquote> <p>JJ, am Lankan and have always opposed the pull-out which always seemed like a cop-out to me.</p> </blockquote> </blockquote> <p>Beg to disagree fg, I don't think it was a cop-out, IMO it had an opposite effect – it raised the stakes for everyone including BCCI. I think it was pretty bold move. Indian’s had no option other than to sit quietly and wait for appeal process to get over. The pullout bluff not only got everybody’s attention it just might have expedited the process.</p> <p>It seems that Aussie media and Aussies live in a completely different make believe world. At some level it reminds me of the days before Iraq war when “conservative” Americans were convinced of the presence of WMDs in Iraq.</p> <p>There was no deal and there was no buyout – the judge rendered a verdict based on the evidence that he was presented. Moreover if Aussies are such proud people then why did the players agreed to downgrade the charge. I have no sympathy for Aussies - ( not much for Harbhajan either for that matter)</p> <p>I am thinking that in future such issues will be handled in a better way - especially by ICC and its officers. This is good news for all the Asian Bloc teams.</p> <p>Flygirl – “herald sun” reported that even Ranatunga said that his team would not have played (pulled out of tri-nation ODI) if this appeal was not handled properly – is it true? Or this is Ranatunga being Ranatunga ;)? (BTW: he also said sledging should be banned ;). He must have a Phd in the art of getting under Aussie skin.</p>

JJ, am Lankan and have always opposed the pull-out which always seemed like a cop-out to me.

Beg to disagree fg, I don’t think it was a cop-out, IMO it had an opposite effect – it raised the stakes for everyone including BCCI. I think it was pretty bold move. Indian’s had no option other than to sit quietly and wait for appeal process to get over. The pullout bluff not only got everybody’s attention it just might have expedited the process.

It seems that Aussie media and Aussies live in a completely different make believe world. At some level it reminds me of the days before Iraq war when “conservative” Americans were convinced of the presence of WMDs in Iraq.

There was no deal and there was no buyout – the judge rendered a verdict based on the evidence that he was presented. Moreover if Aussies are such proud people then why did the players agreed to downgrade the charge. I have no sympathy for Aussies – ( not much for Harbhajan either for that matter)

I am thinking that in future such issues will be handled in a better way – especially by ICC and its officers. This is good news for all the Asian Bloc teams.

Flygirl – “herald sun” reported that even Ranatunga said that his team would not have played (pulled out of tri-nation ODI) if this appeal was not handled properly – is it true? Or this is Ranatunga being Ranatunga ;) ? (BTW: he also said sledging should be banned ;) . He must have a Phd in the art of getting under Aussie skin.

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By: Jangali Jaanwar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/08/cricket_ponting/comment-page-11/#comment-191814 Jangali Jaanwar Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:17:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4948#comment-191814 <p><i>547 · <b>flygirl</b> <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004948.html#comment191812">said</a></i></p> <p><</p> <p>blockquote JJ, am Lankan and have always opposed the pull-out which always seemed like a cop-out to me. So not sure if my opinion matters :-) </blockquote></p> <p>Thanks Sulabh and flygirl. I was trying to get a feel for what it must be like in your neck of the woods right now. I've enjoyed lurking while the assorted cricket crew post comments in the late evening (EST) while the match is on. And Flygirl, of course it matters, good luck to Lanka against Australia. See you when South Africa plays India.</p> 547 · flygirl said

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blockquote JJ, am Lankan and have always opposed the pull-out which always seemed like a cop-out to me. So not sure if my opinion matters :-)

Thanks Sulabh and flygirl. I was trying to get a feel for what it must be like in your neck of the woods right now. I’ve enjoyed lurking while the assorted cricket crew post comments in the late evening (EST) while the match is on. And Flygirl, of course it matters, good luck to Lanka against Australia. See you when South Africa plays India.

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By: flygirl http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2008/01/08/cricket_ponting/comment-page-11/#comment-191812 flygirl Thu, 31 Jan 2008 00:05:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4948#comment-191812 <p>We all still here? Lanka has <i>arrived</i>, people. Don't have much use for 20/20 matches, though.</p> <p>JJ, am Lankan and have always opposed the pull-out which always seemed like a cop-out to me. So not sure if my opinion matters :-)</p> We all still here? Lanka has arrived, people. Don’t have much use for 20/20 matches, though.

JJ, am Lankan and have always opposed the pull-out which always seemed like a cop-out to me. So not sure if my opinion matters :-)

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