Comments on: Walking a Mile in Someone Else’s Chappals http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/11/21/walking_a_mile_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Amrita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/11/21/walking_a_mile_1/comment-page-6/#comment-179803 Amrita Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:22:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4867#comment-179803 <p>If it were language alone, I'd still think he's amazing. There will be a huge change of attitude in his wake. My young friend in Beijing confirms, "Kevin really speaks excellent mandarin...haha...bringing an ever brighter future to the Sino-Aus relationship!"</p> If it were language alone, I’d still think he’s amazing. There will be a huge change of attitude in his wake. My young friend in Beijing confirms, “Kevin really speaks excellent mandarin…haha…bringing an ever brighter future to the Sino-Aus relationship!”

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By: melbourne desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/11/21/walking_a_mile_1/comment-page-6/#comment-179776 melbourne desi Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:07:35 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4867#comment-179776 <blockquote> would venture a guess that it wouldn't be too shabby, since Swedish is pretty much descended from Middle English, with frills. </blockquote> <p>I would aver that it is quite rusty since he would have had very little opportunity to practise it post his Swedish stint. but all said and done he is someone to be admired - from being a sharecroppers son to Prime Minister is quite an achievement.</p> would venture a guess that it wouldn’t be too shabby, since Swedish is pretty much descended from Middle English, with frills.

I would aver that it is quite rusty since he would have had very little opportunity to practise it post his Swedish stint. but all said and done he is someone to be admired – from being a sharecroppers son to Prime Minister is quite an achievement.

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By: Amrita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/11/21/walking_a_mile_1/comment-page-6/#comment-179592 Amrita Tue, 27 Nov 2007 07:03:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4867#comment-179592 <p>Sorry, I should have said Swedish is a cousin of Middle English, a few times removed. And maybe KRudd speaks in the Mandarin he put into practice as a diplomat in Beijing.</p> Sorry, I should have said Swedish is a cousin of Middle English, a few times removed. And maybe KRudd speaks in the Mandarin he put into practice as a diplomat in Beijing.

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By: Amrita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/11/21/walking_a_mile_1/comment-page-6/#comment-179591 Amrita Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:56:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4867#comment-179591 <p>I have zero knowledge of Mandarin; just registering the response of the newscaster, KRudd's apparent comfort level, what the YouTube commentators say, viz., "His Mandarin is better than my family's."-- it's clearly a fairly plummy accent, maybe passed along in the teaching traditions at ANU? Never having seen a video of him speaking Swedish, I would venture a guess that it wouldn't be too shabby, since Swedish is pretty much descended from Middle English, with frills.</p> I have zero knowledge of Mandarin; just registering the response of the newscaster, KRudd’s apparent comfort level, what the YouTube commentators say, viz., “His Mandarin is better than my family’s.”– it’s clearly a fairly plummy accent, maybe passed along in the teaching traditions at ANU? Never having seen a video of him speaking Swedish, I would venture a guess that it wouldn’t be too shabby, since Swedish is pretty much descended from Middle English, with frills.

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By: melbourne desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/11/21/walking_a_mile_1/comment-page-6/#comment-179545 melbourne desi Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:09:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4867#comment-179545 <blockquote>Interesting that he was posted to Stockholm for a long while, too.</blockquote> <p>yes, I suppose that means he probably speaks broken Swedish. I take it that you have a more than passing knowledge of Mandarin.</p> Interesting that he was posted to Stockholm for a long while, too.

yes, I suppose that means he probably speaks broken Swedish. I take it that you have a more than passing knowledge of Mandarin.

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By: Amrita http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/11/21/walking_a_mile_1/comment-page-6/#comment-179507 Amrita Tue, 27 Nov 2007 00:04:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4867#comment-179507 <p>i gather from the sound of his voice and the comments under the YouTube videos that he speaks in a very polisged and correct Mandarin, as one might speak with people of a a much older generation. And he totally uses a different repertoire of intonation and gestures, so that really he gives the impression of being Chinese=-- nothing halfway. Anyway, he'll certainly change politics in his part of the world and beyond--the anti-Chris Patton. Did you see him thank Hu for the pandas? That was great! Interesting that he was posted to Stockholm for a long while, too.</p> i gather from the sound of his voice and the comments under the YouTube videos that he speaks in a very polisged and correct Mandarin, as one might speak with people of a a much older generation. And he totally uses a different repertoire of intonation and gestures, so that really he gives the impression of being Chinese=– nothing halfway. Anyway, he’ll certainly change politics in his part of the world and beyond–the anti-Chris Patton. Did you see him thank Hu for the pandas? That was great! Interesting that he was posted to Stockholm for a long while, too.

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By: melbourne desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/11/21/walking_a_mile_1/comment-page-6/#comment-179484 melbourne desi Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:32:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4867#comment-179484 <blockquote>Melbourne Desi, I was serious. I mean, look at this...and this...and of course this. you'd think he had a Chinese grandmother who took care to teach him stuff, not a SIL.</blockquote> <p>He learnt Mandarin when he was a foreign diplomat. Every Australian diplomat is expected to learn a foreign language. Rudd chose Mandarin and was posted for a few years to Beijing. At that time it was probably a foolhardy move especially given contempt for Asians in Australia. In retrospect a very wise move. The previous Foreign Minister - Downer was also a diplomat and he spoke French. Downer kept mocking Rudd for speaking Mandarin -that sent more Asian voters into the Rudd camp. If Rudd had even a drop of Chinese blood in him it would have been used in the election.</p> Melbourne Desi, I was serious. I mean, look at this…and this…and of course this. you’d think he had a Chinese grandmother who took care to teach him stuff, not a SIL.

He learnt Mandarin when he was a foreign diplomat. Every Australian diplomat is expected to learn a foreign language. Rudd chose Mandarin and was posted for a few years to Beijing. At that time it was probably a foolhardy move especially given contempt for Asians in Australia. In retrospect a very wise move. The previous Foreign Minister – Downer was also a diplomat and he spoke French. Downer kept mocking Rudd for speaking Mandarin -that sent more Asian voters into the Rudd camp. If Rudd had even a drop of Chinese blood in him it would have been used in the election.

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By: sarah http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/11/21/walking_a_mile_1/comment-page-6/#comment-179479 sarah Mon, 26 Nov 2007 23:10:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4867#comment-179479 <blockquote>I'm so sick of saying this but it's not either/or, people. You can celebrate thanksgiving, be mindful of what the original intent of it was and eat with loved ones, all at the same time.</blockquote> <p>Anna @ 265, thanks for your comments. I think you're right on here. I actually <a href="http://therealpotato.wordpress.com/2007/11/21/thanksgiving-a-few-thoughts-before-the-feast/">posted some thoughts about this very question</a> on my blog on Thanksgiving-- I think it's important, especially for those of us who descend from the colonizers of this country, to wrestle with this question. At the same time, it's the most important culinary day of the year in the US, and the only one whose traditional foods celebrate American foodways, which I love; and as you mentioned, we all get so little time off to see our families, we've got to make the most of that.</p> I’m so sick of saying this but it’s not either/or, people. You can celebrate thanksgiving, be mindful of what the original intent of it was and eat with loved ones, all at the same time.

Anna @ 265, thanks for your comments. I think you’re right on here. I actually posted some thoughts about this very question on my blog on Thanksgiving– I think it’s important, especially for those of us who descend from the colonizers of this country, to wrestle with this question. At the same time, it’s the most important culinary day of the year in the US, and the only one whose traditional foods celebrate American foodways, which I love; and as you mentioned, we all get so little time off to see our families, we’ve got to make the most of that.

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By: nala http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/11/21/walking_a_mile_1/comment-page-6/#comment-179460 nala Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:23:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4867#comment-179460 <blockquote>I know of Hindu guys who do it to get laid. I assume that was not your goal.</blockquote> <p>Haha, actually it kind of was. I went last year when the guy I was going out with was an evangelical Christian (didn't work). My boyfriend now is Christian (the St. Thomas kind), but in a way that's more compatible with me (and, um, I didn't need it to work).</p> I know of Hindu guys who do it to get laid. I assume that was not your goal.

Haha, actually it kind of was. I went last year when the guy I was going out with was an evangelical Christian (didn’t work). My boyfriend now is Christian (the St. Thomas kind), but in a way that’s more compatible with me (and, um, I didn’t need it to work).

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By: pravin http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/11/21/walking_a_mile_1/comment-page-6/#comment-179459 pravin Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:17:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4867#comment-179459 <blockquote>I attended church services nearly every week for a couple of months last year... I still go once in a while. & I'm Hindu</blockquote> <p>I know of Hindu guys who do it to get laid. I assume that was not your goal.</p> I attended church services nearly every week for a couple of months last year… I still go once in a while. & I’m Hindu

I know of Hindu guys who do it to get laid. I assume that was not your goal.

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