Is that not the real problem? Look at us, we are all using English, par aap noon desi samajday hun

Is not the problem the status given to English and Hindi to unite all regions?

I did not want a list of words with the similar meaning. What I meant was in India we don’t have a vernacular word for’liberty’ in the English,legal sense of ‘habeas corpus’.For us,Government is ‘hukumat’ or ‘raj’,both suggesting absolutism. Our idea of politics is’chanakyaneeti’.We bow and scrape before any and every tin-pot authority.Liberty under Law has never been a part of our consciousness.Our cities and towns have no local self-government worth speaking of.

We became a nation in awe of power and sought political pull in order to survive.A nation that worships power has no use of liberty .we lost our morality and became slaves.

“who are you to judge “dhoti-clad vernacular politicians”? right or wrong, they have something to say that interests whoever elects them. statements like the above say more about you.”

Same way,I’ve the right to express my views too,bytewords

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There has been many an occasion in history where multiple languages were used simultaneously by a society for different purposes. An obvious example is some European ruling classes using French while common people spoke in native tongues.

Ottoman empire used three different languages simultaneously. Members of the military, civil and religious elite conducted their business in Ottoman Turkish. Arabic was the primary language of religion, while Persian was the language of art/literature/diplomacy.

In the Indian scenario, I can see English taking the role of ‘language of commerce’, while Telugu/Tamil/Hindi/Punjabi/Bengali… taking on the status of ‘languages of art/literature’. Language of administration will probably continue to be a mixture of Hindi/Telugu/Tamil/Punjabi/Bengali… and English.

Couple of Telugu words for you: Swechha = Liberty Swaathanthryam = Freedom

Couple of other Telugu phrases that could be useful:

Baanisa Manasthathvam = slave mentality Aathma Dvesham = self hate

i am not sure what you mean by vernacular—modern day indian languages were vernacular a millenium ago. today they are as “vernacular” as english is. no need for your condescension there, especially since you seem to know virtually nothing, not even simple words from these languages.

and who are you to judge “dhoti-clad vernacular politicians”? right or wrong, they have something to say that interests whoever elects them. statements like the above say more about you.

liberty in kannada: anirbandhate and bidugade; (political liberty) swaatantra; bidugade is also used as the judicial variant.

The Dhoti-Clad vernacular politicians often accuse us,who read,write,speak,sing and even dream in english ,of “APING THE WEST”.

Can they find a vernacular word for ‘liberty’?

As this thread is about Desi Languages, don’t you think we aren’t helping? Afterall even we are using English as a medium here. So chances do state languages have? See this link, even Punjabi is under threat

http://www.apnaorg.com/articles/nila/