Comments on: Don’t count your chickens http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/30/dont_count_your/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: ak http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/30/dont_count_your/comment-page-3/#comment-175689 ak Sat, 03 Nov 2007 00:07:40 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4828#comment-175689 <blockquote>Regardless, I find this a little obscene.</blockquote> <p>have you seen their new house in bombay? several months back, one of the city papers (mumbai mirror, i think) did a write-up on it - some 60 floors (converted into 30 double-level stories, and 5 or 6 just for parking) a helipad, a panic <i>floor</i> - all with a $1b price tag. while i marvel at it, i do not begrudge them the luxury - but it didn't even look good....</p> Regardless, I find this a little obscene.

have you seen their new house in bombay? several months back, one of the city papers (mumbai mirror, i think) did a write-up on it – some 60 floors (converted into 30 double-level stories, and 5 or 6 just for parking) a helipad, a panic floor – all with a $1b price tag. while i marvel at it, i do not begrudge them the luxury – but it didn’t even look good….

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By: Amit http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/30/dont_count_your/comment-page-3/#comment-175656 Amit Fri, 02 Nov 2007 21:05:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4828#comment-175656 <p>dark brown, what you're talking about is a different scenario from a disaster scenario that I'm talking about. I don't know about you, but if my neighbor's house burned down, my offer for help - whether for them to stay at my house for a few days till they figured things out, or food, or clothes etc. is just what I'd do. If you'd consider such an act degrading or done out of "pity," then that's your prerogative and your way of looking at things. I think of it as being considerate and kind, and accepting someone else's kindness is not, in my books, something to get worked up about. YMMV. <em>shrug</em></p> dark brown, what you’re talking about is a different scenario from a disaster scenario that I’m talking about. I don’t know about you, but if my neighbor’s house burned down, my offer for help – whether for them to stay at my house for a few days till they figured things out, or food, or clothes etc. is just what I’d do. If you’d consider such an act degrading or done out of “pity,” then that’s your prerogative and your way of looking at things. I think of it as being considerate and kind, and accepting someone else’s kindness is not, in my books, something to get worked up about. YMMV. shrug

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By: dark brown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/30/dont_count_your/comment-page-3/#comment-175649 dark brown Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:49:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4828#comment-175649 <blockquote>Sure loans are helpful, and can be another option along with any immediate help in the form of material/cash from fellow citizens/human beings.</blockquote> <p>How can you call giving for free as help, it should be called degrading a fellow human being. Lets say some upperclass person pities/sympathises with your middleclass(iam just assuming here) existance and offers to donote you some material/cash, how would you feel? if you had any selfrespect you would get offended.</p> Sure loans are helpful, and can be another option along with any immediate help in the form of material/cash from fellow citizens/human beings.

How can you call giving for free as help, it should be called degrading a fellow human being. Lets say some upperclass person pities/sympathises with your middleclass(iam just assuming here) existance and offers to donote you some material/cash, how would you feel? if you had any selfrespect you would get offended.

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By: khoofia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/30/dont_count_your/comment-page-3/#comment-175617 khoofia Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:26:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4828#comment-175617 <p>thanks for the clarification GDude.</p> thanks for the clarification GDude.

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By: brown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/30/dont_count_your/comment-page-3/#comment-175616 brown Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:16:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4828#comment-175616 <p>Gujudude,</p> <p>The mumbai mirror says it is a 319 airbus.</p> Gujudude,

The mumbai mirror says it is a 319 airbus.

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By: GujuDude http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/30/dont_count_your/comment-page-3/#comment-175614 GujuDude Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:05:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4828#comment-175614 <blockquote>I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt here but this really baffles me. A plane that size needs runways that are beyond the reach of smaller airports (desi or amreeki). </blockquote> <p>I didn't see what model of an Airbus Corporate Jet they purchased. They come in several configurations from their more popular A320/319 to currently rumored their massive A380 (priced at 300 million). 60 million is about what an A320 runs, without discounts. The A320/319 CJ is a popular business jet model (like the Boeing 737 Business Jet). A320s and Boeing 737s don't need large runways like a widebody aircraft, so your assumption on a plane that size needs runways that are beyond the reach of smaller airports is not true. Fleets of most domestic carriers (India and the USA) are made up of these aircraft. Wikipedia lists Daimler and Reliance as users of the Airbus CJ.</p> <p>Also, if he's buying it for his wife a luxury item, I'm assuming she's not really looking to fly into a small village in India (though the aircraft should be able to get to most airports in the subcontinent).</p> I’m trying to give the benefit of the doubt here but this really baffles me. A plane that size needs runways that are beyond the reach of smaller airports (desi or amreeki).

I didn’t see what model of an Airbus Corporate Jet they purchased. They come in several configurations from their more popular A320/319 to currently rumored their massive A380 (priced at 300 million). 60 million is about what an A320 runs, without discounts. The A320/319 CJ is a popular business jet model (like the Boeing 737 Business Jet). A320s and Boeing 737s don’t need large runways like a widebody aircraft, so your assumption on a plane that size needs runways that are beyond the reach of smaller airports is not true. Fleets of most domestic carriers (India and the USA) are made up of these aircraft. Wikipedia lists Daimler and Reliance as users of the Airbus CJ.

Also, if he’s buying it for his wife a luxury item, I’m assuming she’s not really looking to fly into a small village in India (though the aircraft should be able to get to most airports in the subcontinent).

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By: khoofia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/30/dont_count_your/comment-page-3/#comment-175606 khoofia Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:47:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4828#comment-175606 <p>Ennis - you're not kidding there. I'm trying to give the benefit of the doubt here but this really baffles me. A plane that size needs runways that are beyond the reach of smaller airports (desi or amreeki). It may be that buddy's trying to curry favor with EU for something big, or he felt smaller planes would be riskier, or then again this could just be a vanity project. Regardless, I find this a little obscene.</p> Ennis – you’re not kidding there. I’m trying to give the benefit of the doubt here but this really baffles me. A plane that size needs runways that are beyond the reach of smaller airports (desi or amreeki). It may be that buddy’s trying to curry favor with EU for something big, or he felt smaller planes would be riskier, or then again this could just be a vanity project. Regardless, I find this a little obscene.

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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/30/dont_count_your/comment-page-3/#comment-175605 Ennis Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:25:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4828#comment-175605 <p>Thanks Khoofia. It says:</p> <blockquote>Mr. Ambani, who owns the country's biggest private company, Reliance Industries Ltd, gifted the $60 million Airbus plane to wife Neeta on her 44th birthday on Thursday, the Mumbai Mirror newspaper said. The jet is custom-fitted with an office and a cabin with game consoles, music systems, satellite television and wireless communication, the report said. It also has a master bedroom, a bathroom with a range of showers and a bar with mood lighting. [<a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071102.wjumbogift1102/BNStory/International/home">Link</a>] </blockquote> <p>Wow. When you said jet, I didn't think you meant a $60 million airbus. He's not a stingy person when it comes to spending on his family.</p> Thanks Khoofia. It says:

Mr. Ambani, who owns the country’s biggest private company, Reliance Industries Ltd, gifted the $60 million Airbus plane to wife Neeta on her 44th birthday on Thursday, the Mumbai Mirror newspaper said. The jet is custom-fitted with an office and a cabin with game consoles, music systems, satellite television and wireless communication, the report said. It also has a master bedroom, a bathroom with a range of showers and a bar with mood lighting. [Link]

Wow. When you said jet, I didn’t think you meant a $60 million airbus. He’s not a stingy person when it comes to spending on his family.

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By: khoofia http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/30/dont_count_your/comment-page-3/#comment-175603 khoofia Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:09:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4828#comment-175603 <p><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20071102.wjumbogift1102/BNStory/International/home">More fuel</a> for you. Mukesh A. buys a jet for wifey. Dude's totally enjoying boomtimes.</p> More fuel for you. Mukesh A. buys a jet for wifey. Dude’s totally enjoying boomtimes.

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By: melbourne desi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/30/dont_count_your/comment-page-3/#comment-175598 melbourne desi Fri, 02 Nov 2007 06:52:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4828#comment-175598 <blockquote>Pappu: I will take it easy when folks stop making sweeping genelizations about this or that group of people, without any supporting evidence</blockquote> <p>YoDad takes issue when Gujju's are slammed and rightly so. However there was not a word from YoDad when genocide in Gujarat was mentioned. Does silence mean assent to the pogroms run by Gujaratis. Am I missing something ?</p> Pappu: I will take it easy when folks stop making sweeping genelizations about this or that group of people, without any supporting evidence

YoDad takes issue when Gujju’s are slammed and rightly so. However there was not a word from YoDad when genocide in Gujarat was mentioned. Does silence mean assent to the pogroms run by Gujaratis. Am I missing something ?

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