Comments on: Torn About Bobby Jindal http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/19/torn_about_bobb/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ann http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/19/torn_about_bobb/comment-page-6/#comment-281790 Ann Fri, 04 Mar 2011 04:25:05 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4801#comment-281790 <p>These are comments from a New Delhi born Indian who immigrated to the U.S. at the age of 13. I speak and read several Indian languages and I am Christian....have been all my life. You guys seems to have a serious problem with the fact that he became a Christian. What exactly is wrong with an Indian becoming or being a Christian?</p> <p>Intelligent design and the sanctity of life are Christian values....my Christian values. To those who question intelligent design I ask, what are the chances that the universe and all that is in it, including all the intricate cells that are in your own body, just came to existence by chance? You wouldn't expect to walk onto the beach one day and find a wrist watch that just came into existence because the atmospheric conditions were just right. So how then could you possibly expect that living things so much more intricate than a watch would come into existence by chance? And what exactly caused the big bang that is theorized about so much?</p> <p>As for the sanctity of life, a fetus has a heart beat at 18 days after conception....you really think that fetus doesn't have life that is worth protecting?</p> These are comments from a New Delhi born Indian who immigrated to the U.S. at the age of 13. I speak and read several Indian languages and I am Christian….have been all my life. You guys seems to have a serious problem with the fact that he became a Christian. What exactly is wrong with an Indian becoming or being a Christian?

Intelligent design and the sanctity of life are Christian values….my Christian values. To those who question intelligent design I ask, what are the chances that the universe and all that is in it, including all the intricate cells that are in your own body, just came to existence by chance? You wouldn’t expect to walk onto the beach one day and find a wrist watch that just came into existence because the atmospheric conditions were just right. So how then could you possibly expect that living things so much more intricate than a watch would come into existence by chance? And what exactly caused the big bang that is theorized about so much?

As for the sanctity of life, a fetus has a heart beat at 18 days after conception….you really think that fetus doesn’t have life that is worth protecting?

]]> By: JCA http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/19/torn_about_bobb/comment-page-6/#comment-232440 JCA Sat, 28 Feb 2009 03:12:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4801#comment-232440 <p>So Jindal lied about the Katrina story. He wasn't in the area when he said he had the conversation with the Sheriff. Why am I not surprised?</p> So Jindal lied about the Katrina story. He wasn’t in the area when he said he had the conversation with the Sheriff. Why am I not surprised?

]]> By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/19/torn_about_bobb/comment-page-6/#comment-209574 Sameer Mon, 21 Jul 2008 14:53:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4801#comment-209574 <p>Christianity is not a Western religion. There are no indigenous Western religions left. Christianity replaced practically all of them in Europe (both by choice and by force depending on the circumstances and the times) and it later replaced almost all indigenous religions in the Americas (mostly by force via colonialism). Christianity is an Eastern religion, from the Asian continent, specifically indigenous to the Middle East. All three Abrahamic religions (Judaism and its two descendants Christianity and Islam) are Asian religions. Hinduism is also a Asian religion, however, it is indigenous to South Asia as are several other religions. Christianity and later Islam came from the Middle East to South Asia like it came from the Middle East to Europe. The main difference is that Christianity was not as successful in replacing South Asian religions as it was replacing European religions. However, Islam was more successful in replacing South Asian religions (though not to the same degree of success as Christianity replacing European peoples' religions in Europe) and perhaps as well Christianity in South Asia than it was replacing any remaining European religions and Christianity in Europe. This is just history; the migration of religions from one region to another.</p> <p>What makes a person "Indian" today in the US or other places is another discussion, with other levels of complexity.</p> Christianity is not a Western religion. There are no indigenous Western religions left. Christianity replaced practically all of them in Europe (both by choice and by force depending on the circumstances and the times) and it later replaced almost all indigenous religions in the Americas (mostly by force via colonialism). Christianity is an Eastern religion, from the Asian continent, specifically indigenous to the Middle East. All three Abrahamic religions (Judaism and its two descendants Christianity and Islam) are Asian religions. Hinduism is also a Asian religion, however, it is indigenous to South Asia as are several other religions. Christianity and later Islam came from the Middle East to South Asia like it came from the Middle East to Europe. The main difference is that Christianity was not as successful in replacing South Asian religions as it was replacing European religions. However, Islam was more successful in replacing South Asian religions (though not to the same degree of success as Christianity replacing European peoples’ religions in Europe) and perhaps as well Christianity in South Asia than it was replacing any remaining European religions and Christianity in Europe. This is just history; the migration of religions from one region to another.

What makes a person “Indian” today in the US or other places is another discussion, with other levels of complexity.

]]> By: Sunil Thomas http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/19/torn_about_bobb/comment-page-6/#comment-207245 Sunil Thomas Tue, 01 Jul 2008 06:09:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4801#comment-207245 <p>Just a thought regarding Jindal's religious articles on exorcism. If you accept that there exists a supernatural being that is good (GOD), it is then not far-fetched to accept that there may exist supernatural beings that are evil.</p> <p>As an Indian American, the belief that Indian identity is solely reflective through Hinduism is completely inaccurate and baseless. Every known religious doctrine is being practiced in India. Christians existed in India from ancient times. Apostle Thomas preached in the State of Kerala. The concept that Christianity is somehow a "Western religion" is unfounded.</p> <p>The fact that Jindal converted from Hinduism to Christianity makes him no less an "Indian".</p> Just a thought regarding Jindal’s religious articles on exorcism. If you accept that there exists a supernatural being that is good (GOD), it is then not far-fetched to accept that there may exist supernatural beings that are evil.

As an Indian American, the belief that Indian identity is solely reflective through Hinduism is completely inaccurate and baseless. Every known religious doctrine is being practiced in India. Christians existed in India from ancient times. Apostle Thomas preached in the State of Kerala. The concept that Christianity is somehow a “Western religion” is unfounded.

The fact that Jindal converted from Hinduism to Christianity makes him no less an “Indian”.

]]> By: unbelief.net http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/19/torn_about_bobb/comment-page-6/#comment-206202 unbelief.net Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:35:20 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4801#comment-206202 <p>Sameer, in your impassioned plea for inclusiveness, you forgot to mention atheists.</p> Sameer, in your impassioned plea for inclusiveness, you forgot to mention atheists.

]]> By: Sameer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/19/torn_about_bobb/comment-page-6/#comment-206200 Sameer Sun, 15 Jun 2008 22:29:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4801#comment-206200 <p>Only he knows the sincerity of his conversion. Regardless, the reality today in America is Piyush Jindal the devout, practicing, temple attending Hindu would never be considered by McCain as a VP candidate, nor perhaps even by Barack Obama. If a well to do white man named Robert Johnson converted from Catholism or Protestantism to Hinduism and started calling himself "Piyush" he'd have no chance either in either political party. There is religious bigotry in America that is as strong or stronger than racism. We've never even had a person of the Jewish faith be either VP or President, and they have been in America for centuries and are much more assimilated. The furthest we've wavered was electing a Catholic as President, JFK, and that too was only once. I wonder if JFK had converted from Catholism to Protestantism (never mind Hinduism) as a teenager, would the Catholic community be just as proud of him, taking comfort in that at least he once was Catholic? I'm sure there still would be some pride. People of color are more accepted in American political life, even by other people of color, if they are Christian, especially for higher offices. So too are white people more accepted if they Christian than any other religion. It is just the way things are right now. We are yet to get to the point where a Jew, Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist (even if all were white men) are as viable presidential candidates as a Christian.</p> Only he knows the sincerity of his conversion. Regardless, the reality today in America is Piyush Jindal the devout, practicing, temple attending Hindu would never be considered by McCain as a VP candidate, nor perhaps even by Barack Obama. If a well to do white man named Robert Johnson converted from Catholism or Protestantism to Hinduism and started calling himself “Piyush” he’d have no chance either in either political party. There is religious bigotry in America that is as strong or stronger than racism. We’ve never even had a person of the Jewish faith be either VP or President, and they have been in America for centuries and are much more assimilated. The furthest we’ve wavered was electing a Catholic as President, JFK, and that too was only once. I wonder if JFK had converted from Catholism to Protestantism (never mind Hinduism) as a teenager, would the Catholic community be just as proud of him, taking comfort in that at least he once was Catholic? I’m sure there still would be some pride. People of color are more accepted in American political life, even by other people of color, if they are Christian, especially for higher offices. So too are white people more accepted if they Christian than any other religion. It is just the way things are right now. We are yet to get to the point where a Jew, Muslim, Hindu, or Buddhist (even if all were white men) are as viable presidential candidates as a Christian.

]]> By: Bush http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/19/torn_about_bobb/comment-page-6/#comment-194008 Bush Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:25:46 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4801#comment-194008 <p>I'm new here and require edification. Understanding that God loves all, home is home and that temporary visits are desirable, if one is Indian, why does one leave India? If I go to India, shall I abscond with an Indian moniker, Raj Smith perhaps, and will I then be Indian? Would I be an American-Indian? Further what would be the point, to simply challenge nature? I can't fathom the incongruity. Thank you.</p> I’m new here and require edification. Understanding that God loves all, home is home and that temporary visits are desirable, if one is Indian, why does one leave India? If I go to India, shall I abscond with an Indian moniker, Raj Smith perhaps, and will I then be Indian? Would I be an American-Indian? Further what would be the point, to simply challenge nature? I can’t fathom the incongruity. Thank you.

]]> By: rob http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/19/torn_about_bobb/comment-page-6/#comment-182954 rob Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:30:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4801#comment-182954 <blockquote>271 · niran How the hell he is going to change Lousiana????</blockquote> <p>Ummm--perhaps by focussing on being governor, and not trying to moonlight as, e.g., an LSU cop. Really--you're shameless.</p> 271 · niran How the hell he is going to change Lousiana????

Ummm–perhaps by focussing on being governor, and not trying to moonlight as, e.g., an LSU cop. Really–you’re shameless.

]]> By: niran http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/19/torn_about_bobb/comment-page-6/#comment-182947 niran Sun, 16 Dec 2007 21:54:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4801#comment-182947 <p>Two Phd students where killed in LSU,right behind Jindals office,may be some one wants to prove that,he cant even try protect his own people.How the hell he is going to change Lousiana????</p> Two Phd students where killed in LSU,right behind Jindals office,may be some one wants to prove that,he cant even try protect his own people.How the hell he is going to change Lousiana????

]]> By: Huey http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/19/torn_about_bobb/comment-page-6/#comment-177129 Huey Sun, 11 Nov 2007 04:53:30 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4801#comment-177129 <p>From my research, I found out that the "other" non-white governor in Louisiana that preceded Jindal was P.B.S. Pinchback, a former ex-slave, who became governor of Louisiana in 1872.</p> From my research, I found out that the “other” non-white governor in Louisiana that preceded Jindal was P.B.S. Pinchback, a former ex-slave, who became governor of Louisiana in 1872.

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