As Orwell said, the war is not meant to be won, it’s meant to be continuous.

, but seem to be left without a response when actually shown an instance where you spewed your hate filled spitballs with absolutely no reason

DL, if you must know, it was this statement of yours that I considered first blood. Not to mention this. Instead of whine about it, I bit back.

I’d respond to the rest of your tome, but I do indeed try and respect the mods attempt to keep threads on track and topic.

Thank you.

I am not a fascist, nor am I the PC-police, nor am I a slave owner, so please come up with a more creative (and accurate) description for what you’re trying to say or just do one better and refrain from calling me names

No name calling intended although it is an interesting thought – to be your slave that is

Any updates on this story?

hey, hmf vs. manju is nothing if not continuous.

the problem is that such incidents are highly contextualized, and there is often a high degree of subjectivity since in other contexts, this would be protected speech. more problematic, for example, is the pace university koran flushing incident, which straddles the line between jena and serrano’s piss christ.

and as much as i’d like to witness the spectacle of cuban american suing hollywood movie stars for wearing che guevara t-shirts, hate speech in the abstract must be protected. hate crime legislation has many sympathisers on the right, as even sean hannity and bill o reilly want severe punishment for the noose hangers, in part because they want to also ban americn flag burning and restrict govt grants for anti-christian art.

already there is a nys assemblyman who wants to introduce a law that criminalizes noose-hanging. this leaves the libertarian right and the old fashioned aclu types alone to fight for a classic liberal interpretation of the free speech doctrine. ban cross burning and noose hanging in the abstract, and you can rest assured next comes flying a hammer and sickle or burning an American flag.

I also understand that you’re joking about my comment at the end re: good manners, and this is not directed solely to you, but comparing me to a slave owner because I value an e-space that promotes continuous dialogue as opposed to one that devolves into HMF vs. Manju nonsense is really inappropriate. I am not a fascist, nor am I the PC-police, nor am I a slave owner, so please come up with a more creative (and accurate) description for what you’re trying to say or just do one better and refrain from calling me names.

Mary, the analogy was warranted.

hmf, this is my last response to you on this discussion.

if a guy actually makes some statements against your usual misogynist frothing, it is because he wants to get in women’s pants, and women of course are incapable of contributing effectively to the discussion since you and you alone have had the unique vantage to explore both male and female behaviors and are specially qualified to posit laughable theories that sound like they have been extracted from reading the equivalents of self-help books written by pick-up artists like mystery and the game. and if none of these work, adopt the age-old strategy of ad hominem against the commenter. it seems an easy way to just dismiss arguments that don’t agree with your contorted world views without actually engaging with the points in them.

i am sure your analysis of human interactions that constantly focuses on the follies of whites and women has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that you are a male person of color (and for all that, i even agree with a lot of your opinions about racism in the us). but seeing this would require more self awareness than you seem capable of. surely, even you must have wondered why every discussion you get into on any matter of substance ends up in abuse and vituperation, while this doesn’t happen for other commenters. you seem to confuse being wrong, obnoxious and unpopular with actually being correct and courageous. or maybe this is just your coping mechanism. as with every other problem in the world, you always blame the other person rather than seeing it as a consequence of your bushian defensive and insecure attitude of “you are either with me or against me”, but seem to be left without a response when actually shown an instance where you spewed your hate filled spitballs with absolutely no reason. as usual, you adopted your usual “debating” strategy of cherry picking sentences so you didn’t have to address anything uncomfortable.

sm intern, you might want to consider why hmf’s quoting misogynist lyrics with a sham apology was considered acceptable, but a response with similar lyrics was not. even by the limited definition of civility being “low” profanity, you must have noticed his nastiness to commenter after commenter in multiple posts. hey, you decided to get into the messy business of censorship after all!

Shouldn’t I be praying to David Duke for that? Or Clueless?