Comments on: Not Liveblogging: “Aliens in America” http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/01/not_livebloggin/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Fuerza Dulce http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/01/not_livebloggin/comment-page-2/#comment-181046 Fuerza Dulce Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:43:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4760#comment-181046 <p>Ok so if you go to cbs.com you can watch full episodes of shows. I just watched this episode of the Big Bang Theory called "The Grasshopper Experiment" where the Indian guy gets set up on a blind date by his parents. He doesn't know how to talk to women, but he finds out that if he drinks Grasshoppers, he can. It's cute.</p> Ok so if you go to cbs.com you can watch full episodes of shows. I just watched this episode of the Big Bang Theory called “The Grasshopper Experiment” where the Indian guy gets set up on a blind date by his parents. He doesn’t know how to talk to women, but he finds out that if he drinks Grasshoppers, he can. It’s cute.

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By: user@thematrix http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/01/not_livebloggin/comment-page-2/#comment-170200 user@thematrix Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:03:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4760#comment-170200 <blockquote>I don't know about Pakistan, but in India, though being very respectful to elders, middle class teenage sons seldom help out around the house. There are usually servants or sisters for that. What kind of helping out was Raja doing?</blockquote> <p>exactly what i was thinking : ).</p> I don’t know about Pakistan, but in India, though being very respectful to elders, middle class teenage sons seldom help out around the house. There are usually servants or sisters for that. What kind of helping out was Raja doing?

exactly what i was thinking : ).

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By: Kate http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/01/not_livebloggin/comment-page-2/#comment-170194 Kate Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:44:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4760#comment-170194 <p>Tara, I see what you mean about servants, but in the absence of them the Asian people that I live around and with generally clear their parent's plates from the table as a sign of respect. That's all. Nala, (and all) in case you want to catch up on the premier episode they already have it launched online, you can watch it on the<a href="http://cwtv.com/cw-video/aliens-in-america"> CW network.</a> Now it sounds like I work for them! Actually, I am like you in cutting back tv, but what I like is streamed tv that I can watch at my convenience. It looks like the whole season will be streamed.</p> Tara, I see what you mean about servants, but in the absence of them the Asian people that I live around and with generally clear their parent’s plates from the table as a sign of respect. That’s all. Nala, (and all) in case you want to catch up on the premier episode they already have it launched online, you can watch it on the CW network. Now it sounds like I work for them! Actually, I am like you in cutting back tv, but what I like is streamed tv that I can watch at my convenience. It looks like the whole season will be streamed.

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By: Maurice Reeves http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/01/not_livebloggin/comment-page-2/#comment-170036 Maurice Reeves Fri, 05 Oct 2007 04:13:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4760#comment-170036 <p>Just a couple notes about the show:</p> <p>The boy who plays Raja is Adhir Kaylan. He's not ABD, he's South-African born.</p> <p>And hopefully there will be more authenticity because the main writer is: Sameer Asad Gardezi. He's written other stories about racial tensions: <a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88953803">http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88953803</a></p> <p>The song played when Raja saw his exchange sister is from Pussycat Dolls.</p> <p>I enjoyed the show, but I'm still skeptical. I've seen too many shows go south after episode one.</p> Just a couple notes about the show:

The boy who plays Raja is Adhir Kaylan. He’s not ABD, he’s South-African born.

And hopefully there will be more authenticity because the main writer is: Sameer Asad Gardezi. He’s written other stories about racial tensions: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=88953803

The song played when Raja saw his exchange sister is from Pussycat Dolls.

I enjoyed the show, but I’m still skeptical. I’ve seen too many shows go south after episode one.

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By: nala http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/01/not_livebloggin/comment-page-2/#comment-170015 nala Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:00:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4760#comment-170015 <blockquote>Also, damn, I missed this premiere. I'm trying to cut down on TV, and only have time for the Wednesday night whammy of ANTM + gossip girl (I was disappointed as well, and speaking of gross misrepresentations, how this show presents class issues in NYC is SO laughable), and Ugly Betty.</blockquote> <p>I forgot to add that you don't have to worry ANNA, cuz my tastes are definitely more lowbrow than yours :P</p> Also, damn, I missed this premiere. I’m trying to cut down on TV, and only have time for the Wednesday night whammy of ANTM + gossip girl (I was disappointed as well, and speaking of gross misrepresentations, how this show presents class issues in NYC is SO laughable), and Ugly Betty.

I forgot to add that you don’t have to worry ANNA, cuz my tastes are definitely more lowbrow than yours :P

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By: nala http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/01/not_livebloggin/comment-page-2/#comment-170014 nala Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:59:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4760#comment-170014 <p>Maitri:</p> <blockquote>a young South Asian man in America wears a salwar-kameez to school everyday (which most don't especially if they are brand new here) or anoter stereotype which makes us roll our eyes, it is a gross misrepresentation.</blockquote> <p>why does it make you roll his eyes that he's wearing traditional clothing to school? As Kate eloquently said a few comments upthread, he is an exchange student and the purpose of that is to showcase his culture, aand someone else mentioned upthread that he is shown having Western clothing but he wants to wear traditional clothing because he is proud of his culture. I'm having a hard time understanding why anyone would roll their eyes at that or think that it is a 'gross misrepresentation.' I don't even see how it can be considered a stereotype, considering that South Asian media representation is next to nil.</p> <p>I'm sorry if I come off like I'm attacking you, but I just get SO aggravated by the insinuation that if a desi actually exemplifies something perceived as brown by American media but which isn't thought of in terms of any sort of ethnic identity in the homeland, then it's automatically an unflattering stereotype because they aren't stripped of any and all ethnic markers. In my eyes, it basically smacks of fob-phobia. I'm not pro-exoticism either, but I don't think this attitude is any good either.</p> <p>Also, damn, I missed this premiere. I'm trying to cut down on TV, and only have time for the Wednesday night whammy of ANTM + gossip girl (I was disappointed as well, and speaking of gross misrepresentations, how this show presents class issues in NYC is SO laughable), and Ugly Betty.</p> Maitri:

a young South Asian man in America wears a salwar-kameez to school everyday (which most don’t especially if they are brand new here) or anoter stereotype which makes us roll our eyes, it is a gross misrepresentation.

why does it make you roll his eyes that he’s wearing traditional clothing to school? As Kate eloquently said a few comments upthread, he is an exchange student and the purpose of that is to showcase his culture, aand someone else mentioned upthread that he is shown having Western clothing but he wants to wear traditional clothing because he is proud of his culture. I’m having a hard time understanding why anyone would roll their eyes at that or think that it is a ‘gross misrepresentation.’ I don’t even see how it can be considered a stereotype, considering that South Asian media representation is next to nil.

I’m sorry if I come off like I’m attacking you, but I just get SO aggravated by the insinuation that if a desi actually exemplifies something perceived as brown by American media but which isn’t thought of in terms of any sort of ethnic identity in the homeland, then it’s automatically an unflattering stereotype because they aren’t stripped of any and all ethnic markers. In my eyes, it basically smacks of fob-phobia. I’m not pro-exoticism either, but I don’t think this attitude is any good either.

Also, damn, I missed this premiere. I’m trying to cut down on TV, and only have time for the Wednesday night whammy of ANTM + gossip girl (I was disappointed as well, and speaking of gross misrepresentations, how this show presents class issues in NYC is SO laughable), and Ugly Betty.

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By: Tara Watabe http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/01/not_livebloggin/comment-page-2/#comment-170000 Tara Watabe Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:33:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4760#comment-170000 <blockquote>I join Anna in being very positive on the show in general, my one worry while watching was that Raja's scenes of being helpful around the house, which Asian families would perceive to be normal behavior, might be interpreted as some sort of subservience by an American audience, but I still think that is minor. I think there is a line even in there that says that the dad has never seen a teenager be so helpful before.</blockquote> <p>I don't know about Pakistan, but in India, though being very respectful to elders, middle class teenage sons seldom help out around the house. There are usually servants or sisters for that. What kind of helping out was Raja doing?</p> I join Anna in being very positive on the show in general, my one worry while watching was that Raja’s scenes of being helpful around the house, which Asian families would perceive to be normal behavior, might be interpreted as some sort of subservience by an American audience, but I still think that is minor. I think there is a line even in there that says that the dad has never seen a teenager be so helpful before.

I don’t know about Pakistan, but in India, though being very respectful to elders, middle class teenage sons seldom help out around the house. There are usually servants or sisters for that. What kind of helping out was Raja doing?

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By: Kate http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/01/not_livebloggin/comment-page-2/#comment-169999 Kate Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:25:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4760#comment-169999 <p>I figured out that that song is by an obscure band called Thunderclap Newman from 1969, it is called "Something in the Air" and when you hear all <a href="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/gary.hart/lyricst/thunderclap.html">the lyrics</a> together it is kind of subversive, but the little sound clip they used is pure sweetness</p> I figured out that that song is by an obscure band called Thunderclap Newman from 1969, it is called “Something in the Air” and when you hear all the lyrics together it is kind of subversive, but the little sound clip they used is pure sweetness

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By: Kate http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/01/not_livebloggin/comment-page-2/#comment-169837 Kate Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:26:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4760#comment-169837 <p>I can't resist commenting that everyone's objection to Raja's clothes for school seems based on the idea of the character being first generation here, whereas in the plot line the idea is that he is an exchange student, and part of the idea is to introduce <i>his </i>country and culture to Americans (kind of like the show does?) I thought it kind of cool that the writer (the main one is<a href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2304758/"> desi,</a> by the way) makes it clear that Raja owns western clothes as well but "stubbornly" insists on wearing his Pakistani suit for his first day, vastly under-estimating the etiquette of his host school and fellow students and teacher.</p> <p>I join Anna in being very positive on the show in general, my one worry while watching was that Raja's scenes of being helpful around the house, which Asian families would perceive to be normal behavior, might be interpreted as some sort of subservience by an American audience, but I still think that is minor. I think there is a line even in there that says that the dad has never seen a teenager be so helpful before.</p> <p>Finally, I LOVED the way they used the music for the show and promo ("What's so funny 'bout peace love and understanding" as covered by Junoon) and what's the name of the one they played at the end, from the '60's- another anthemic peace tune that never got "dated".</p> I can’t resist commenting that everyone’s objection to Raja’s clothes for school seems based on the idea of the character being first generation here, whereas in the plot line the idea is that he is an exchange student, and part of the idea is to introduce his country and culture to Americans (kind of like the show does?) I thought it kind of cool that the writer (the main one is desi, by the way) makes it clear that Raja owns western clothes as well but “stubbornly” insists on wearing his Pakistani suit for his first day, vastly under-estimating the etiquette of his host school and fellow students and teacher.

I join Anna in being very positive on the show in general, my one worry while watching was that Raja’s scenes of being helpful around the house, which Asian families would perceive to be normal behavior, might be interpreted as some sort of subservience by an American audience, but I still think that is minor. I think there is a line even in there that says that the dad has never seen a teenager be so helpful before.

Finally, I LOVED the way they used the music for the show and promo (“What’s so funny ’bout peace love and understanding” as covered by Junoon) and what’s the name of the one they played at the end, from the ’60′s- another anthemic peace tune that never got “dated”.

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By: glass houses http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/10/01/not_livebloggin/comment-page-2/#comment-169681 glass houses Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:11:52 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4760#comment-169681 <p>Cool show...(not as cool a debut as 'Caveman' best new show hands down)..but it won't be able to beat 'Chuck'</p> Cool show…(not as cool a debut as ‘Caveman’ best new show hands down)..but it won’t be able to beat ‘Chuck’

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