Comments on: Himalayan Project’s Broken World http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/29/himalayan_proje/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Avneet http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/29/himalayan_proje/comment-page-1/#comment-169450 Avneet Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:41:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4757#comment-169450 <p>the line does say, "I read Brown's the new Black, thanks to henna and Bhangra"--it's commentary! I really don't believe he's saying it is true...especially when it's followed up by the second line, "shit i'm thinkin' lockup in a guantanmo slammer".... i agree with pickle....</p> the line does say, “I read Brown’s the new Black, thanks to henna and Bhangra”–it’s commentary! I really don’t believe he’s saying it is true…especially when it’s followed up by the second line, “shit i’m thinkin’ lockup in a guantanmo slammer”…. i agree with pickle….

]]> By: pickle http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/29/himalayan_proje/comment-page-1/#comment-169444 pickle Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:23:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4757#comment-169444 <p>Maybe the whole 'Brown's the new black' line is referring to how mainstream popular culture is commodifying desi culture by mass marketing things like henna and bhangra, much like they've done with black american culture for the better part of a century. maybe that's why he follows it up with the wake-up of being locked up in guantanimo as a more realistic view of how mainstream america views brown people. maybe.</p> Maybe the whole ‘Brown’s the new black’ line is referring to how mainstream popular culture is commodifying desi culture by mass marketing things like henna and bhangra, much like they’ve done with black american culture for the better part of a century. maybe that’s why he follows it up with the wake-up of being locked up in guantanimo as a more realistic view of how mainstream america views brown people. maybe.

]]> By: Rocky Mountain Project http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/29/himalayan_proje/comment-page-1/#comment-169442 Rocky Mountain Project Tue, 02 Oct 2007 17:04:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4757#comment-169442 <p>They're alright. Gotta say i got the same feeling that Carlita got from the 'brown's the new black' line...bhangra and henna? really?</p> They’re alright. Gotta say i got the same feeling that Carlita got from the ‘brown’s the new black’ line…bhangra and henna? really?

]]> By: Doc http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/29/himalayan_proje/comment-page-1/#comment-169425 Doc Tue, 02 Oct 2007 15:22:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4757#comment-169425 <p>Stussy writes: <i>Taking beats and chatting over them is inspired by and a branch of the tree of Hip Hop. And it's nothing like a gimmick.</i></p> <p>How is this not a gimmick? If it ain't part of your regular repertoire than it is a gimmick, or at best an accessory. This is like saying Billy Joel is rap because he kind of rapped/talked his verses in "We Didn't Start the Fire".</p> Stussy writes: Taking beats and chatting over them is inspired by and a branch of the tree of Hip Hop. And it’s nothing like a gimmick.

How is this not a gimmick? If it ain’t part of your regular repertoire than it is a gimmick, or at best an accessory. This is like saying Billy Joel is rap because he kind of rapped/talked his verses in “We Didn’t Start the Fire”.

]]> By: hotter http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/29/himalayan_proje/comment-page-1/#comment-169407 hotter Tue, 02 Oct 2007 07:10:59 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4757#comment-169407 <p>Taking the hottest dance producers of the moment (switch, diplo, etc...) and putting a whiny chick all over them is not hip-hop. M.I.A.'s album was put together by folks who don't even know her. and whining over the beat is not rapping. sorry. not hip-hop. gimmick. interscope markets it as gimmicky dance music. nobody will remember it in 5 years time. sure, it's great to dance to right now. real cute, too. might even make a kickass commercial for a Honda Civic. but she has no lasting power. she will last about as long as punjabi MC did a few years back. and there's nothing wrong with that (i actually like her album)...but to bring the argument back around, HP knows that they aren't going to be selling cars with their music. they aren't doing this to sell records. they're making some pretty cool social and personal commentary over beats. they barely break even each release, but still spend their time doing hip-hop. even if you don't like the music, you gotta appreciate that some people do it for the love of the craft.</p> Taking the hottest dance producers of the moment (switch, diplo, etc…) and putting a whiny chick all over them is not hip-hop. M.I.A.’s album was put together by folks who don’t even know her. and whining over the beat is not rapping. sorry. not hip-hop. gimmick. interscope markets it as gimmicky dance music. nobody will remember it in 5 years time. sure, it’s great to dance to right now. real cute, too. might even make a kickass commercial for a Honda Civic. but she has no lasting power. she will last about as long as punjabi MC did a few years back. and there’s nothing wrong with that (i actually like her album)…but to bring the argument back around, HP knows that they aren’t going to be selling cars with their music. they aren’t doing this to sell records. they’re making some pretty cool social and personal commentary over beats. they barely break even each release, but still spend their time doing hip-hop. even if you don’t like the music, you gotta appreciate that some people do it for the love of the craft.

]]> By: Stussy http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/29/himalayan_proje/comment-page-1/#comment-169365 Stussy Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:56:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4757#comment-169365 <blockquote>also M.I.A. is not hip-hop...it's dance music that feeds as much from club music and dancehall as it does from rap music. and it's a gimmick.</blockquote> <p>Taking beats and chatting over them is inspired by and a branch of the tree of Hip Hop. And it's nothing like a gimmick.</p> also M.I.A. is not hip-hop…it’s dance music that feeds as much from club music and dancehall as it does from rap music. and it’s a gimmick.

Taking beats and chatting over them is inspired by and a branch of the tree of Hip Hop. And it’s nothing like a gimmick.

]]> By: Doc http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/29/himalayan_proje/comment-page-1/#comment-169312 Doc Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:26:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4757#comment-169312 <p>Delerium writes: <i>"To be able to take a form and use one's influences to create someting new; That has always been the case with art of any kind. MIA does it very well and HP feel weak/lame in comparison."</i></p> <p>This is precisely what HP has done: Taken the blueprint of hip-hop, respectfully studied it without exploitation, and added their own personal narratives to it.</p> Delerium writes: “To be able to take a form and use one’s influences to create someting new; That has always been the case with art of any kind. MIA does it very well and HP feel weak/lame in comparison.”

This is precisely what HP has done: Taken the blueprint of hip-hop, respectfully studied it without exploitation, and added their own personal narratives to it.

]]> By: hotter http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/29/himalayan_proje/comment-page-1/#comment-169288 hotter Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:44:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4757#comment-169288 <p>crap...rainman already made one of my points in a much less aggressive manner. i hate rainman! he always ruins everything! plus he's not even desi! boo, rainman!</p> crap…rainman already made one of my points in a much less aggressive manner. i hate rainman! he always ruins everything! plus he’s not even desi! boo, rainman!

]]> By: hotter http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/29/himalayan_proje/comment-page-1/#comment-169287 hotter Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:37:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4757#comment-169287 <p>one of the members of HP isn't desi...but aparrently nobody on here cares. it's mighty ignorant to completley disregard half of the group because he's not desi. shame on you. also M.I.A. is not hip-hop...it's dance music that feeds as much from club music and dancehall as it does from rap music. and it's a gimmick. HP is hip-hop.</p> one of the members of HP isn’t desi…but aparrently nobody on here cares. it’s mighty ignorant to completley disregard half of the group because he’s not desi. shame on you. also M.I.A. is not hip-hop…it’s dance music that feeds as much from club music and dancehall as it does from rap music. and it’s a gimmick. HP is hip-hop.

]]> By: Mr Rainman http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/29/himalayan_proje/comment-page-1/#comment-169284 Mr Rainman Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:24:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4757#comment-169284 <p>Hi, Ray FROM Himalayan Project speaking... for the record, I'm not South Asian, only Chee is... Love all the discussion, I wouldn't say it's the reason why I make music, but it's probably my favorite byproduct... And yeah, we do sound too much like Eminem for my tastes ;)</p> Hi, Ray FROM Himalayan Project speaking… for the record, I’m not South Asian, only Chee is… Love all the discussion, I wouldn’t say it’s the reason why I make music, but it’s probably my favorite byproduct… And yeah, we do sound too much like Eminem for my tastes ;)

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