Comments on: Life imitates bolly (updated w/ film) http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/21/life_imitates_b/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: jyotsana http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/21/life_imitates_b/comment-page-1/#comment-167918 jyotsana Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:22:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4739#comment-167918 <blockquote>love the movie. what do you all think of aag coming out? the remake of this movie. it's not getting any good reviews.</blockquote> <p>Friends Arnab at Greatbong.net has already ripped into it. Read it in parts, or else you will split your sides laughing.</p> love the movie. what do you all think of aag coming out? the remake of this movie. it’s not getting any good reviews.

Friends Arnab at Greatbong.net has already ripped into it. Read it in parts, or else you will split your sides laughing.

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By: Kala Patthar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/21/life_imitates_b/comment-page-1/#comment-167822 Kala Patthar Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:37:32 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4739#comment-167822 <blockquote>Are we laughing about the death? We're discussing the movie. </blockquote> <p>Then what else was your intention with this post .. ???</p> <blockquote>OK, head butting somebody until they have a heart attack lacks the potent symbolism of killing them by “trampling him with spike-soled shoes”</blockquote> <p>So, you are saying now that this was just a morbid comparision ..and you did not want to tickle anyone's funny bone ..??</p> Are we laughing about the death? We’re discussing the movie.

Then what else was your intention with this post .. ???

OK, head butting somebody until they have a heart attack lacks the potent symbolism of killing them by “trampling him with spike-soled shoes”

So, you are saying now that this was just a morbid comparision ..and you did not want to tickle anyone’s funny bone ..??

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By: A_myth http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/21/life_imitates_b/comment-page-1/#comment-167773 A_myth Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:17:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4739#comment-167773 <p>Heres another <a href="http://www.thakurkainteqam.com/">alternate ending :)</a></p> Heres another alternate ending :)

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By: pingpong http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/21/life_imitates_b/comment-page-1/#comment-167767 pingpong Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:35:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4739#comment-167767 <blockquote>I think Sholay is just famous for being famous. As big a Bollywood fan as I am, I don't get Sholay.</blockquote> <p>I must agree with <b>Floridian@30</b> on this one - I watched it the first time when I was 8, and it seemed like yet another masala movie - perfectly entertaining, but not much more. It was years later that I read about how it set some standards - the first foul-mouthed Bollywood villain (as opposed to the previous smooth-talking suave James Bond-style villains, in Zanjeer for instance), how the Sippys had to battle with Indira Gandhi during Emergency to get the film approved, and how they combined Seven Samurai and a bunch of spaghetti Westerns into something totally Indian. Ultimately, even though I'm not emotionally attached to the movie, I hold it to be a landmark in the same spirit that Straw Dogs was a landmark for Hollywood, and that it should ideally be watched by all film buffs to see how adaptation and localization should be done. I would not however recommend it as an Introduction to Indian Movies movie for non-desi non-film-buffs - for one thing, it's liable to give the impression that a good Indian movie always needs to stand on the shoulders of others; for another, it is not representative of most Indian movies (in any language) made in the last 5 years in terms of content.</p> I think Sholay is just famous for being famous. As big a Bollywood fan as I am, I don’t get Sholay.

I must agree with Floridian@30 on this one – I watched it the first time when I was 8, and it seemed like yet another masala movie – perfectly entertaining, but not much more. It was years later that I read about how it set some standards – the first foul-mouthed Bollywood villain (as opposed to the previous smooth-talking suave James Bond-style villains, in Zanjeer for instance), how the Sippys had to battle with Indira Gandhi during Emergency to get the film approved, and how they combined Seven Samurai and a bunch of spaghetti Westerns into something totally Indian. Ultimately, even though I’m not emotionally attached to the movie, I hold it to be a landmark in the same spirit that Straw Dogs was a landmark for Hollywood, and that it should ideally be watched by all film buffs to see how adaptation and localization should be done. I would not however recommend it as an Introduction to Indian Movies movie for non-desi non-film-buffs – for one thing, it’s liable to give the impression that a good Indian movie always needs to stand on the shoulders of others; for another, it is not representative of most Indian movies (in any language) made in the last 5 years in terms of content.

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By: louiecypher http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/21/life_imitates_b/comment-page-1/#comment-167702 louiecypher Sat, 22 Sep 2007 04:00:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4739#comment-167702 <p>Thakur comes up like a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weeble">Weeble</a> after he gets knocked down...awesome</p> Thakur comes up like a Weeble after he gets knocked down…awesome

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By: Floridian http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/21/life_imitates_b/comment-page-1/#comment-167692 Floridian Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:46:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4739#comment-167692 <p>Okay, I am getting on the bandwagon here. Try this link of comedian Raju Srivastava's Sholay routine.</p> <p>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoSEG4p4q0o</p> <p>"Kitne Aadmi They" is the ultimate cut-to-the-chase management question that they should be teaching in B-school. In fact, I recall my own management style was quite like Gabbar's when I was younger.</p> Okay, I am getting on the bandwagon here. Try this link of comedian Raju Srivastava’s Sholay routine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoSEG4p4q0o

“Kitne Aadmi They” is the ultimate cut-to-the-chase management question that they should be teaching in B-school. In fact, I recall my own management style was quite like Gabbar’s when I was younger.

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By: anangbhai http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/21/life_imitates_b/comment-page-1/#comment-167683 anangbhai Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:04:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4739#comment-167683 <p>Complete self promotion but I found this <a href="http://www.anangbhai.com/old-school-bollywood-mashup/">really dirty sholay related clip</a> a while ago.</p> <p>I don't know about the Searchers the massacre reference seemed to be very faint. I have <a href="http://www.anangbhai.com/mcbainsingh-massacre/">the scene</a> from OUATIW for comparison.</p> Complete self promotion but I found this really dirty sholay related clip a while ago.

I don’t know about the Searchers the massacre reference seemed to be very faint. I have the scene from OUATIW for comparison.

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/21/life_imitates_b/comment-page-1/#comment-167645 Kush Tandon Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:00:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4739#comment-167645 <p>From Wiki artcile for Sholay: The massacre of a family near the middle of the film is similar to a scene from Leone's Once Upon a Time in the West as well as a scene from John Ford's The Searchers.</p> From Wiki artcile for Sholay: The massacre of a family near the middle of the film is similar to a scene from Leone’s Once Upon a Time in the West as well as a scene from John Ford’s The Searchers.

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By: Kush Tandon http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/21/life_imitates_b/comment-page-1/#comment-167638 Kush Tandon Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:45:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4739#comment-167638 <p><i>I was somewhat disappointed to find out later that R.D Burman ripped off the "Mehbooba Mehbooba" tune. Though to me the film has never been equalled in terms of sheer spectacle by any other Bollywood film.</i></p> <p>Yes, the song has the same tune which is common knowledge. The great power of Mehbooba Mehbooba is Helen's dance (there never been a dance like that), and the context within the movie - the whole show.</p> <p>There are sequences that are carbon copy of some of the westerns - like Tarantino's Kill Bill movies - so what - for example, the scene where Jaya B is removing the dried clothes, and gets shot - is inspired by a western - google, you will find quite a few similarities - they are even similarities to Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid - the way Jay and Vijay rush out shooting in one of the scenes - yet, it is one of the <b>greatest spectacle</b> ever made.</p> <p>Comparing to movie made by a novel, like Godfather, is unfair. They are different.</p> <p>You bring Sholay anywhere in the world in a theater - 80% of the audience will repeating the dialogues in a sing-song/ karoki way - this is from a movie, that initially had a slow start, some of the national newspapers in India in first week or so had declared it a flop - one national newspaper had said it nothing indian in it - by 2-3rd week, it had become a classic by word of mouth.</p> I was somewhat disappointed to find out later that R.D Burman ripped off the “Mehbooba Mehbooba” tune. Though to me the film has never been equalled in terms of sheer spectacle by any other Bollywood film.

Yes, the song has the same tune which is common knowledge. The great power of Mehbooba Mehbooba is Helen’s dance (there never been a dance like that), and the context within the movie – the whole show.

There are sequences that are carbon copy of some of the westerns – like Tarantino’s Kill Bill movies – so what – for example, the scene where Jaya B is removing the dried clothes, and gets shot – is inspired by a western – google, you will find quite a few similarities – they are even similarities to Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid – the way Jay and Vijay rush out shooting in one of the scenes – yet, it is one of the greatest spectacle ever made.

Comparing to movie made by a novel, like Godfather, is unfair. They are different.

You bring Sholay anywhere in the world in a theater – 80% of the audience will repeating the dialogues in a sing-song/ karoki way – this is from a movie, that initially had a slow start, some of the national newspapers in India in first week or so had declared it a flop – one national newspaper had said it nothing indian in it – by 2-3rd week, it had become a classic by word of mouth.

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By: rudie_c http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/09/21/life_imitates_b/comment-page-1/#comment-167636 rudie_c Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:44:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4739#comment-167636 <p>R.D Burman!! not ARrahman. my bad.</p> <p>still a great song, helen made it what it is though!</p> R.D Burman!! not ARrahman. my bad.

still a great song, helen made it what it is though!

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