Comments on: Countdown to SF: T-Minus 3 Days http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/23/countdown_to_sf/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/23/countdown_to_sf/comment-page-4/#comment-161779 HMF Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:40:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4680#comment-161779 <p>I can answer all of these points in email if you want. i generally want to respect the wishes of the mods about staying on topic.</p> I can answer all of these points in email if you want. i generally want to respect the wishes of the mods about staying on topic.

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By: Satya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/23/countdown_to_sf/comment-page-4/#comment-161777 Satya Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:40:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4680#comment-161777 <p>Sorry, SM intern. Don't know how this mushroomed...I keep breaking that New Year's resolution of refraining from tangents.</p> Sorry, SM intern. Don’t know how this mushroomed…I keep breaking that New Year’s resolution of refraining from tangents.

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By: SM Intern http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/23/countdown_to_sf/comment-page-4/#comment-161776 SM Intern Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:39:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4680#comment-161776 <p>All right, I guess no one cares to discuss the actual topic-- time to close.</p> All right, I guess no one cares to discuss the actual topic– time to close.

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By: Satya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/23/countdown_to_sf/comment-page-4/#comment-161774 Satya Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:36:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4680#comment-161774 <blockquote>I was just pointing out a logical flaw in continuing to do certain actions that were primarily for the attraction of men, after that goal has been satisfied.</blockquote> <p>Attempting to fit logic to the recondite, endlessly cthonic realm of sexuality is futile. There is nothing logical about the terrain of sexuality. Absolutely nothing.</p> <blockquote>I made the comment about being approached while in the line for a bathroom, and only suggested that because its such a short time window, there might be something particular about Satya that says to a guy "hey come to talk to me"</blockquote> <p>As it's been mentioned before, a woman simply being by herself sends the "message" that she's fair game. And as I mentioned before, I'm quite shy and positively lacking in feminine wiles, so I don't think that I'm responsible for men hitting on me despite the fact that I'm with someone else.</p> <blockquote> When a woman does dress provocatively, they are indeed sending out the message, "I am sexy", not "I need sex" but "I am someone who it's beneficial to have sex with" does this authorize gropes and grinds and lift up by thighs? NO, again I'll say it: NO IT DOES NOT. However, you cannot come back with the 'deer in the headlights' look with "what what?" when you see and hear signs that a guy is 'thinking' about it.? When that is the clear goal. Get me?</blockquote> <p>Perhaps, but this begs the question: why is it that so many women tend to be approached NOT when they're dressed provocatively but when they're donning their least sexy duds, walking the dog, etc.? And I'm curious--you don't feel that physical assault is ever warranted, but what about verbal abuse or inappropriate comments? Do you feel that just kind of comes with the territory of the nightclub?</p> I was just pointing out a logical flaw in continuing to do certain actions that were primarily for the attraction of men, after that goal has been satisfied.

Attempting to fit logic to the recondite, endlessly cthonic realm of sexuality is futile. There is nothing logical about the terrain of sexuality. Absolutely nothing.

I made the comment about being approached while in the line for a bathroom, and only suggested that because its such a short time window, there might be something particular about Satya that says to a guy “hey come to talk to me”

As it’s been mentioned before, a woman simply being by herself sends the “message” that she’s fair game. And as I mentioned before, I’m quite shy and positively lacking in feminine wiles, so I don’t think that I’m responsible for men hitting on me despite the fact that I’m with someone else.

When a woman does dress provocatively, they are indeed sending out the message, “I am sexy”, not “I need sex” but “I am someone who it’s beneficial to have sex with” does this authorize gropes and grinds and lift up by thighs? NO, again I’ll say it: NO IT DOES NOT. However, you cannot come back with the ‘deer in the headlights’ look with “what what?” when you see and hear signs that a guy is ‘thinking’ about it.? When that is the clear goal. Get me?

Perhaps, but this begs the question: why is it that so many women tend to be approached NOT when they’re dressed provocatively but when they’re donning their least sexy duds, walking the dog, etc.? And I’m curious–you don’t feel that physical assault is ever warranted, but what about verbal abuse or inappropriate comments? Do you feel that just kind of comes with the territory of the nightclub?

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By: Puliogre in da USA http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/23/countdown_to_sf/comment-page-4/#comment-161773 Puliogre in da USA Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:35:38 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4680#comment-161773 <p>way to stay on topic...</p> way to stay on topic…

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By: Amit http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/23/countdown_to_sf/comment-page-4/#comment-161772 Amit Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:34:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4680#comment-161772 <p>I read an account somewhere of a FTM person that post-op, he noticed that the frequency of his daily thoughts about sex multiplied manifold. Not an attempt to justify sexual assault or obnoxious behavior, but biology and hormones may play a not insignificant part in this. Is razib around? :)</p> I read an account somewhere of a FTM person that post-op, he noticed that the frequency of his daily thoughts about sex multiplied manifold. Not an attempt to justify sexual assault or obnoxious behavior, but biology and hormones may play a not insignificant part in this. Is razib around? :)

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By: SM Intern http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/23/countdown_to_sf/comment-page-4/#comment-161771 SM Intern Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:31:58 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4680#comment-161771 <p>If anyone else has meetup-related questions, ask them now, I'm getting ready to close this thread.</p> If anyone else has meetup-related questions, ask them now, I’m getting ready to close this thread.

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By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/23/countdown_to_sf/comment-page-4/#comment-161765 HMF Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:21:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4680#comment-161765 <p><i>That's what I'm wearing at work right now. Is that modest enough for you? I mean, what should I wear, a burlap sack? Seriously, you need to consider the idea that women, while under social pressure to be 'pretty', also wear things and do things for our own reasons that have nothing to do with whatever random man might be looking at us at that moment.</i></p> <p>No, thats exactly what I'm not saying in fact. I was just pointing out a logical flaw in continuing to do certain actions that were primarily for the attraction of men, after that goal has been satisfied.</p> <p><i>And for the record, it's one thing to be politely complimented, but hoots and grabs on the street? NOT FUN. NOT EGO-FEEDING. Most women are embarrassed, annoyed, sometimes even threatened by it.</i></p> <p>Please point out where I said hoots and grabs were acceptable? Or where did I even broach this subject at all? This is what Im talking about when I say misrepresentation.</p> <p>I made the comment about being approached while in the line for a bathroom, and only suggested that because its such a short time window, there might be something particular about Satya that says to a guy "hey come to talk to me"</p> <p>Secondly.. I will make a general comment however.. not related to any one persons anecdote here.</p> <p>When a woman does dress provocatively, they are indeed sending out the message, "I am sexy", not "I need sex" but "I am someone who it's beneficial to have sex with" does this authorize gropes and grinds and lift up by thighs? NO, again I'll say it: NO IT DOES NOT. However, you cannot come back with the 'deer in the headlights' look with "what what?" when you see and hear signs that a guy is 'thinking' about it.? When that is the clear goal. Get me?</p> <p>So it's somewhat confusing to see a married woman, without her husband in a club engaging in this kind of action.. that's the point I was trying to make.</p> That’s what I’m wearing at work right now. Is that modest enough for you? I mean, what should I wear, a burlap sack? Seriously, you need to consider the idea that women, while under social pressure to be ‘pretty’, also wear things and do things for our own reasons that have nothing to do with whatever random man might be looking at us at that moment.

No, thats exactly what I’m not saying in fact. I was just pointing out a logical flaw in continuing to do certain actions that were primarily for the attraction of men, after that goal has been satisfied.

And for the record, it’s one thing to be politely complimented, but hoots and grabs on the street? NOT FUN. NOT EGO-FEEDING. Most women are embarrassed, annoyed, sometimes even threatened by it.

Please point out where I said hoots and grabs were acceptable? Or where did I even broach this subject at all? This is what Im talking about when I say misrepresentation.

I made the comment about being approached while in the line for a bathroom, and only suggested that because its such a short time window, there might be something particular about Satya that says to a guy “hey come to talk to me”

Secondly.. I will make a general comment however.. not related to any one persons anecdote here.

When a woman does dress provocatively, they are indeed sending out the message, “I am sexy”, not “I need sex” but “I am someone who it’s beneficial to have sex with” does this authorize gropes and grinds and lift up by thighs? NO, again I’ll say it: NO IT DOES NOT. However, you cannot come back with the ‘deer in the headlights’ look with “what what?” when you see and hear signs that a guy is ‘thinking’ about it.? When that is the clear goal. Get me?

So it’s somewhat confusing to see a married woman, without her husband in a club engaging in this kind of action.. that’s the point I was trying to make.

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By: brown http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/23/countdown_to_sf/comment-page-4/#comment-161756 brown Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:04:15 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4680#comment-161756 <p>Sarah,</p> <p>Following up on my earlier post, I am not sure what your budget is, but there are some really nice affordable places, my building was an old factory converted into apartments and it was reasonable, it was on second and race. I am not sure what the scene now is, it used to be managed by Brandywine. Hopefully you will get to your comfort zone fast. Now back to regular programming :)</p> Sarah,

Following up on my earlier post, I am not sure what your budget is, but there are some really nice affordable places, my building was an old factory converted into apartments and it was reasonable, it was on second and race. I am not sure what the scene now is, it used to be managed by Brandywine. Hopefully you will get to your comfort zone fast. Now back to regular programming :)

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By: sarah http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/23/countdown_to_sf/comment-page-4/#comment-161755 sarah Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:01:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4680#comment-161755 <p>Brown, I'm with you-- I like Old City a lot but the rents are totally out of my reach!</p> Brown, I’m with you– I like Old City a lot but the rents are totally out of my reach!

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