Comments on: Meet Imus’ replacement http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/19/meet_imus_repla/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: CB http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/19/meet_imus_repla/comment-page-1/#comment-161263 CB Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:11:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4671#comment-161263 <p>Prema - you really hate yourself, don'tcha? The self-loathing, the inferiority complex and all-round nastiness which emanate from you are very sad.</p> <p>The first 'rich' was meant generically - as in, vibrant, full, dynamic. There was no precise economic or social reality meant. Then, in response to De Moron-ay's jab, I pointed out the obvious, using the term as HE had used it. The two uses were entirely distinct.</p> Prema – you really hate yourself, don’tcha? The self-loathing, the inferiority complex and all-round nastiness which emanate from you are very sad.

The first ‘rich’ was meant generically – as in, vibrant, full, dynamic. There was no precise economic or social reality meant. Then, in response to De Moron-ay’s jab, I pointed out the obvious, using the term as HE had used it. The two uses were entirely distinct.

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By: VV Varaiya http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/19/meet_imus_repla/comment-page-1/#comment-160578 VV Varaiya Wed, 22 Aug 2007 17:22:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4671#comment-160578 <p>I'm all for an equal opportunity offender comic on the radio; however the "Jersey Guy" is a bigot. He is a polarizing fascist. For Imus, Indians/Asians/Latinos weren't on the radar screen. He was obsessed with the cowboy-era image of America... a la Reagan. Imus went vegetarian a few years back, and the moron didn't realize/know of the 1000+ years of vegetarian cuisine of the East. For Imus, South Asians (SA) will always be the towel-head kurta wearing buffoons with an occasional Nehru "statesman" thrown in.</p> <p>Carton is a more sinister individual... his goal is to reduce the SA population to buffoon status. Carton is the classic plantation owner: he wants to enjoy the fruits of the cheap/quality labor, but not accept them as Americans.</p> <p>-- Who do we contact to express our dismay at his selection?</p> <p>Second item -- why the HELL would we want a Al Sharpton? He's a caricature constructed by the right-wing media. The right-wing trots him out (news shows, newspaper, magazines, etc.) to reduce the argument to buffoon status. The African-American community has MILLIONS of smart articulate individuals, but if the right-wing brings them into the discussion the contrast/histrionic value Sharpton brings is lost. Sharpton is a pawn of the media.</p> <p>The Indian community has not found its voice... most of us are too immersed in the upper echelons of this society to realize that the vast majority of Americans (between the coasts and south of Chicago and north of Dallas) have an unformed/antiquated image of SAs. We have to use Jewish model, forming strong organizations will bring us the influence... The evolution of these organization is still several decades away... too many SAs are still tribal separating themselves by religion, language and class.</p> I’m all for an equal opportunity offender comic on the radio; however the “Jersey Guy” is a bigot. He is a polarizing fascist. For Imus, Indians/Asians/Latinos weren’t on the radar screen. He was obsessed with the cowboy-era image of America… a la Reagan. Imus went vegetarian a few years back, and the moron didn’t realize/know of the 1000+ years of vegetarian cuisine of the East. For Imus, South Asians (SA) will always be the towel-head kurta wearing buffoons with an occasional Nehru “statesman” thrown in.

Carton is a more sinister individual… his goal is to reduce the SA population to buffoon status. Carton is the classic plantation owner: he wants to enjoy the fruits of the cheap/quality labor, but not accept them as Americans.

– Who do we contact to express our dismay at his selection?

Second item — why the HELL would we want a Al Sharpton? He’s a caricature constructed by the right-wing media. The right-wing trots him out (news shows, newspaper, magazines, etc.) to reduce the argument to buffoon status. The African-American community has MILLIONS of smart articulate individuals, but if the right-wing brings them into the discussion the contrast/histrionic value Sharpton brings is lost. Sharpton is a pawn of the media.

The Indian community has not found its voice… most of us are too immersed in the upper echelons of this society to realize that the vast majority of Americans (between the coasts and south of Chicago and north of Dallas) have an unformed/antiquated image of SAs. We have to use Jewish model, forming strong organizations will bring us the influence… The evolution of these organization is still several decades away… too many SAs are still tribal separating themselves by religion, language and class.

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By: HMF http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/19/meet_imus_repla/comment-page-1/#comment-160544 HMF Wed, 22 Aug 2007 13:41:45 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4671#comment-160544 <p><i>Nobody got that, because thats obviously not what you meant you lying fraud. Else explain why you tried to idiotically defend your claim that India is rich, with "'Rich' doesn't equal 'fairly distributed'"??</i></p> <p>Don Imus said China is bad too. Not saying I agree but if Don Imus says it, right?</p> Nobody got that, because thats obviously not what you meant you lying fraud. Else explain why you tried to idiotically defend your claim that India is rich, with “‘Rich’ doesn’t equal ‘fairly distributed’”??

Don Imus said China is bad too. Not saying I agree but if Don Imus says it, right?

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By: Prema http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/19/meet_imus_repla/comment-page-1/#comment-160541 Prema Wed, 22 Aug 2007 09:38:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4671#comment-160541 <blockquote>try thinking before you make yourself look like an arsehole</blockquote> <p>The loathsome "arseholes" are desis like you who keep insisting that India is rich, India is shining, the "world is in awe" of India and other such stupid brazen lies.....while the ground reality is that India is backward and impoverished even by third world standards and leads the world in hunger, malnutrition, human degradation etc.</p> <blockquote>It can mean vibrant, resource-rich, dynamic - any number of things. But being a goggle-eyed, belligerent, frustrated little nerd - you wouldn't get that, would you</blockquote> <p>Nobody got that, because thats obviously not what you meant you lying fraud. Else explain why you tried to idiotically defend your claim that India is rich, with "'Rich' doesn't equal 'fairly distributed'"??</p> <p>You are still making a fool of yourself because you are still not thinking rationally.</p> try thinking before you make yourself look like an arsehole

The loathsome “arseholes” are desis like you who keep insisting that India is rich, India is shining, the “world is in awe” of India and other such stupid brazen lies…..while the ground reality is that India is backward and impoverished even by third world standards and leads the world in hunger, malnutrition, human degradation etc.

It can mean vibrant, resource-rich, dynamic – any number of things. But being a goggle-eyed, belligerent, frustrated little nerd – you wouldn’t get that, would you

Nobody got that, because thats obviously not what you meant you lying fraud. Else explain why you tried to idiotically defend your claim that India is rich, with “‘Rich’ doesn’t equal ‘fairly distributed’”??

You are still making a fool of yourself because you are still not thinking rationally.

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By: gm http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/19/meet_imus_repla/comment-page-1/#comment-160528 gm Wed, 22 Aug 2007 04:08:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4671#comment-160528 <p>I don't know who's worse, Imus or this idiot Carton. I always listen to NPR and really don't have time to listen to anything else (other than ESPN radio shows).</p> <p>This Jersey guy needs to wear a white dunce cap and a white sheet.</p> I don’t know who’s worse, Imus or this idiot Carton. I always listen to NPR and really don’t have time to listen to anything else (other than ESPN radio shows).

This Jersey guy needs to wear a white dunce cap and a white sheet.

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By: CB http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/19/meet_imus_repla/comment-page-1/#comment-160454 CB Tue, 21 Aug 2007 21:10:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4671#comment-160454 <p>Prema, try thinking before you make yourself look like an arsehole. That would defeat the whole point, though, wouldn't it? Since the only reason you seem to come on here is to insult and aggravate others.</p> <p>The word 'rich' doesn't have one meaning. It is not ALWAYS used in a manner consistent with 'development economics'. It can mean vibrant, resource-rich, dynamic - any number of things. But being a goggle-eyed, belligerent, frustrated little nerd - you wouldn't get that, would you Prema?</p> Prema, try thinking before you make yourself look like an arsehole. That would defeat the whole point, though, wouldn’t it? Since the only reason you seem to come on here is to insult and aggravate others.

The word ‘rich’ doesn’t have one meaning. It is not ALWAYS used in a manner consistent with ‘development economics’. It can mean vibrant, resource-rich, dynamic – any number of things. But being a goggle-eyed, belligerent, frustrated little nerd – you wouldn’t get that, would you Prema?

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By: Camille http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/19/meet_imus_repla/comment-page-1/#comment-160344 Camille Tue, 21 Aug 2007 16:25:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4671#comment-160344 <p>Look who's back.</p> Look who’s back.

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By: Prema http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/19/meet_imus_repla/comment-page-1/#comment-160319 Prema Tue, 21 Aug 2007 07:24:51 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4671#comment-160319 <blockquote>If Indians had little sense of 'we', India would not be such a stable, rich, democratic nation state..........I would suggest to you that once Indian society, across class lines, becomes sufficiently affluent - India will prove to be the most socially progressive nation on the planet.</blockquote> <p>India is a "rich nation"?? LOL.</p> <p>Not only are you seriously delusional but you are also pathetically illogical. If India is already rich why the caveat of "once India becomes...sufficiently affluent"? Try to think a little before posting and making a fool of yourself.</p> If Indians had little sense of ‘we’, India would not be such a stable, rich, democratic nation state……….I would suggest to you that once Indian society, across class lines, becomes sufficiently affluent – India will prove to be the most socially progressive nation on the planet.

India is a “rich nation”?? LOL.

Not only are you seriously delusional but you are also pathetically illogical. If India is already rich why the caveat of “once India becomes…sufficiently affluent”? Try to think a little before posting and making a fool of yourself.

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By: Mukul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/19/meet_imus_repla/comment-page-1/#comment-160313 Mukul Tue, 21 Aug 2007 06:28:37 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4671#comment-160313 <p>In the development economics literature, it is fair to say that a country is called "rich" if and only if the average (or, at a minimum, the modal) income level across the entire population of that country is equivalent to sufficient level of consumption to ensure a moderately prosperous standard of living. Hence, Japan is a "rich" country, Germany is a "rich" country, Australia is a "rich" country, etc. Properly speaking, rich countries are those in which most of the people are prosperous.</p> <p>On the other hand, countries in which the majority (or modal) level of consumption is below the minimum necessary for a secure and comfortable existence are called "poor". Lesotho is poor, Cameroon is poor, India is poor, etc. BTW the fact that <em>some</em> people in India are very wealthy does not change anything. Most, in fact nearly all, poor countries have an elite class and many of them have a prosperous consumer class as well, but the majority remains moderately to severely impoverished, thus justifying use of the term "poor country."</p> In the development economics literature, it is fair to say that a country is called “rich” if and only if the average (or, at a minimum, the modal) income level across the entire population of that country is equivalent to sufficient level of consumption to ensure a moderately prosperous standard of living. Hence, Japan is a “rich” country, Germany is a “rich” country, Australia is a “rich” country, etc. Properly speaking, rich countries are those in which most of the people are prosperous.

On the other hand, countries in which the majority (or modal) level of consumption is below the minimum necessary for a secure and comfortable existence are called “poor”. Lesotho is poor, Cameroon is poor, India is poor, etc. BTW the fact that some people in India are very wealthy does not change anything. Most, in fact nearly all, poor countries have an elite class and many of them have a prosperous consumer class as well, but the majority remains moderately to severely impoverished, thus justifying use of the term “poor country.”

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By: CB http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/19/meet_imus_repla/comment-page-1/#comment-160301 CB Tue, 21 Aug 2007 04:11:44 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4671#comment-160301 <p>'Rich' doesn't equal 'fairly distributed', De Moron-ay (pun intended).</p> ‘Rich’ doesn’t equal ‘fairly distributed’, De Moron-ay (pun intended).

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