Comments on: “Exotic Flavor for Flav”

By: Your Mom

Your Mom — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:38:44 +0000

Flavor Flav is a modern minstrel show… I always hated him even in the early days of Public Enemy, and actually a lot of his peers hate him now too cuz of this stupid show… I just hope this desi aunt jemima doesnt make it to the show as white people and black people socialized by the institution of christianity, a biased and racist eurocentric curriculum in their schooling, and an mtv owned program for black ppl (BET) would have a field day…

By: Amit

Amit — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:19:49 +0000

Err. didnt they also start religions ?

Not Kabir, AFAIK.

By: HMF

HMF — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:14:45 +0000

Better to have ZERO expectations (in either direction) I think we’re all saying variations of the same thing, though.

well, I think so too, because the “opposite expectations” aren’t some kind of morbid fascination with doing harm to yourself, it’s just preparing for the worst really.

Kabir and Guru Nanak managed to do that, so why can’t we?

Err. didnt they also start religions ?

By: Amit

Amit — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:56:34 +0000

I still stand by ak. Better to have ZERO expectations (in either direction)

Kabir and Guru Nanak managed to do that, so why can’t we? :p

By: Camille

Camille — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:46:16 +0000

I still stand by ak. Better to have ZERO expectations (in either direction) I think we’re all saying variations of the same thing, though.

By: ak

ak — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:20:38 +0000

i do see your point, though you never know with people these days – even assuming aggressiveness could put you out of the running! these days, i don’t assume anything, but i am completely prepared for the worst – which frightens me, because sometimes i think i’m liable to end up with any guy who is just not an ass hopefully, i’ll get a little more than that…

By: HMF

HMF — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:08:33 +0000

basically, the individual will inform you as to her ways and ideas and you should be prepared for anything that comes.

I don't disagree with this, but I just go the extra step and assume it's the opposite of what the preference is. Usually when you assume the 'worst', and it's not the case, the person you assumed won't be too offended, its the inverse of that which usually offends.

ie if I assumed a girl was submissive and she wasn't - offensive if I assumed a girl was more assertive about things, but she wasn't - doubtful she'd be too offended.

By: ak

ak — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:00:35 +0000

no, that's not what i'm saying - even if you internally assume the opposite, what if you then make some kind of gesture, statement etc that is based on that assumption - it's plausible that she would be offended - e.g 'i'm not that kind of girl'

If you make no assumptions about her quietness

If she's quiet, then you're alright.

If she's a loudmouth shrew, then you might be shocked, as she 'deviates'

but you are going to preferences here, not assumptions. in both cases, you should be equally shocked or not shocked, irregardless of whether you like it or not. basically, the individual will inform you as to her ways and ideas and you should be prepared for anything that comes. as for you liking it, well, that's a different story.

By: HMF

HMF — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:59:16 +0000

The existing stereotypes about Indian women are better than the reality ?( submissive = best , assertive= worst)?

I make no claim on the overall merits of one perceptio over the other, I'm saying, given you subscribe to a certain metric, it's best to assume the exact opposite.

By: Runa

Runa — Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:56:01 +0000

prepare for the worst, hope for the best HMF,

I'm confused! Are you saying that : The existing stereotypes about Indian women are better than the reality ?( submissive = best , assertive= worst)?