Comments on: TV Saves http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/10/tv_saves/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: shlok http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/10/tv_saves/comment-page-1/#comment-160075 shlok Mon, 20 Aug 2007 02:43:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4645#comment-160075 <p>a very relevant <a href="http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=ea9c00fbcc05f08e5b51984808c743d2c5b49e4e">video-journalism</a> by vikas bajaj of nytimes.com and saja.org</p> a very relevant video-journalism by vikas bajaj of nytimes.com and saja.org

]]> By: dr. an-on-y-mous has only one name http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/10/tv_saves/comment-page-1/#comment-158218 dr. an-on-y-mous has only one name Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:11:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4645#comment-158218 <p>i'm curious how many people posting here have actually seen indian television. it kind of sucks, and in more ways than one.</p> i’m curious how many people posting here have actually seen indian television. it kind of sucks, and in more ways than one.

]]> By: Puliogre in da USA http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/10/tv_saves/comment-page-1/#comment-158024 Puliogre in da USA Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:11:11 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4645#comment-158024 <blockquote>dark skin girls with low self esteem, superficiality</blockquote> <p><em>this makes sense....because people in india dont have skin color issues</em> sarcasm off...</p> dark skin girls with low self esteem, superficiality

this makes sense….because people in india dont have skin color issues sarcasm off…

]]> By: Runa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/10/tv_saves/comment-page-1/#comment-157986 Runa Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:13:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4645#comment-157986 <blockquote>Its retrograde compared to your life. Its probably positive relative to rural Indian women's life</blockquote> <p>Sorry but I do not see how perpetuating women's roles as being limited to dressing up ridiculously, and performing every puja in the book ( karwa chauth, pujas for progeny etc ),unquestioning obedience of in-laws/parents, sacrificing for the "good" of the family Or alternately showing women as gossippy, backstabbing characters is progressive/positive in anyway.</p> <p>You know nothing of my life so kindly keep that out of it</p> Its retrograde compared to your life. Its probably positive relative to rural Indian women’s life

Sorry but I do not see how perpetuating women’s roles as being limited to dressing up ridiculously, and performing every puja in the book ( karwa chauth, pujas for progeny etc ),unquestioning obedience of in-laws/parents, sacrificing for the “good” of the family Or alternately showing women as gossippy, backstabbing characters is progressive/positive in anyway.

You know nothing of my life so kindly keep that out of it

]]> By: Hari http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/10/tv_saves/comment-page-1/#comment-157963 Hari Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:50:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4645#comment-157963 <blockquote>most of the serials are retrograde in their portrayal of women's status in the family and in society. All the women seem to look like mobile Gurjari showrooms and pander to every steretype in the book. </blockquote> <p>Its retrograde compared to your life. Its probably positive relative to rural Indian women's life.</p> most of the serials are retrograde in their portrayal of women’s status in the family and in society. All the women seem to look like mobile Gurjari showrooms and pander to every steretype in the book.

Its retrograde compared to your life. Its probably positive relative to rural Indian women’s life.

]]> By: Femme http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/10/tv_saves/comment-page-1/#comment-157870 Femme Sat, 11 Aug 2007 21:03:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4645#comment-157870 <blockquote>Fascinating. But WHOA at the Rani Mukherjee picture -- the combination of the cheesy smile & the belly fat scared me there. I don't if any woman, urban or rural, would wanna look like that. :/</blockquote> <p>One step forward for television, 2 steps backwards for womankind.</p> <p>Here we go again with analysing and criticizing women's bodies, in a post that is supposed to be about their progress and liberation.</p> Fascinating. But WHOA at the Rani Mukherjee picture — the combination of the cheesy smile & the belly fat scared me there. I don’t if any woman, urban or rural, would wanna look like that. :/

One step forward for television, 2 steps backwards for womankind.

Here we go again with analysing and criticizing women’s bodies, in a post that is supposed to be about their progress and liberation.

]]> By: Filmiholic http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/10/tv_saves/comment-page-1/#comment-157857 Filmiholic Sat, 11 Aug 2007 17:01:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4645#comment-157857 <p>If the women out in the countryside don't just get a diet of telenovelas and actually watch the news, then I would say there is indeed some inspiration there. NDTV has Barkha Dutt on every week tackling all sorts of topics, and often with a variety of women of all ages as panel guests. Aside from her, a ton of their reporters are women (at least 50%, I'd say). Granted, folks would probably skew more towards Hindi channels like Star News, but there too, you see a lot of young women journos.</p> <p>The other trend I find quite retro is the ads for these "air hostess" schools on NDTV. Never mind that that's a term that hasn't been used in ages, but it just reinforces the idea that girls should only aim so high (flight attendant), and not higher (pilot). Yet, I know there are women pilots on the commercial carriers....</p> <p>TimeOut Mumbai had a story a week or so back about Deborah Matzner, an NYU PhD anthropolgy candidate who's living in Bombay to do a project studying women working in the television industry and those who make documentaries.</p> If the women out in the countryside don’t just get a diet of telenovelas and actually watch the news, then I would say there is indeed some inspiration there. NDTV has Barkha Dutt on every week tackling all sorts of topics, and often with a variety of women of all ages as panel guests. Aside from her, a ton of their reporters are women (at least 50%, I’d say). Granted, folks would probably skew more towards Hindi channels like Star News, but there too, you see a lot of young women journos.

The other trend I find quite retro is the ads for these “air hostess” schools on NDTV. Never mind that that’s a term that hasn’t been used in ages, but it just reinforces the idea that girls should only aim so high (flight attendant), and not higher (pilot). Yet, I know there are women pilots on the commercial carriers….

TimeOut Mumbai had a story a week or so back about Deborah Matzner, an NYU PhD anthropolgy candidate who’s living in Bombay to do a project studying women working in the television industry and those who make documentaries.

]]> By: Floridian http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/10/tv_saves/comment-page-1/#comment-157847 Floridian Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:30:10 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4645#comment-157847 <p>As Marshal McLuhan said, "The medium is the message."</p> As Marshal McLuhan said, “The medium is the message.”

]]> By: ria http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/10/tv_saves/comment-page-1/#comment-157837 ria Sat, 11 Aug 2007 07:31:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4645#comment-157837 <p>maybe television works better at passing social messages because-</p> <p>its very entertaining. the women are completely tuned in and identify themselves in alteast one of the charecters.</p> <p>second, they look at the better life and they must atleast wish something better in their own. i heard somewhere that revolution doesn't start when ppl are opressed, it starts when people expect better.</p> <p>third, unlike most other means of communication, say newspapers, hoardings, etc. tv is on in the house for hours...it works like brain washing...listening to the same message again and again and again will finally make it go into ur head instead of just flying over it :)</p> maybe television works better at passing social messages because-

its very entertaining. the women are completely tuned in and identify themselves in alteast one of the charecters.

second, they look at the better life and they must atleast wish something better in their own. i heard somewhere that revolution doesn’t start when ppl are opressed, it starts when people expect better.

third, unlike most other means of communication, say newspapers, hoardings, etc. tv is on in the house for hours…it works like brain washing…listening to the same message again and again and again will finally make it go into ur head instead of just flying over it :)

]]> By: razib_the_atheist http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/10/tv_saves/comment-page-1/#comment-157816 razib_the_atheist Sat, 11 Aug 2007 05:19:53 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4645#comment-157816 <p><i>Do you have a reference or link for this? (Thanks). That sounds interesting.</i></p> <p>alas, no. i recall reading it in the late 90s when people were wondering why/how bangladesh's total fertility rate dropped from a bit more than four children per woman to around three in 10 years. a similar dynamic occurred in many barely developed nations (one reason why the UN population projects have had to be ratcheted down constantly since 1960).</p> Do you have a reference or link for this? (Thanks). That sounds interesting.

alas, no. i recall reading it in the late 90s when people were wondering why/how bangladesh’s total fertility rate dropped from a bit more than four children per woman to around three in 10 years. a similar dynamic occurred in many barely developed nations (one reason why the UN population projects have had to be ratcheted down constantly since 1960).

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