Comments on: Blame it on the rain http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/07/here_comes_the_1/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: builder http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/07/here_comes_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-157643 builder Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:08:57 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4636#comment-157643 <p>There is severe flooding in Pakistan as well, mostly in Balochistan, and (initially?) very little aid arrived for the all the people who have lost homes there. Contrasted with the overwhelming aid for the people of Kashmir, it's been taken as yet another snub from the rest of the country to the people of the poorest Pakistani province.</p> There is severe flooding in Pakistan as well, mostly in Balochistan, and (initially?) very little aid arrived for the all the people who have lost homes there. Contrasted with the overwhelming aid for the people of Kashmir, it’s been taken as yet another snub from the rest of the country to the people of the poorest Pakistani province.

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By: Relief http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/07/here_comes_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-157450 Relief Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:17:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4636#comment-157450 <p>"is the gov refusing aid yet again?"</p> <p>HRH, If you wish you can donate to the <a href="http://pmindia.nic.in/relieffund_contribute.htm"> Indian Prime Minsiter's Relief Fund</a>.</p> “is the gov refusing aid yet again?”

HRH, If you wish you can donate to the Indian Prime Minsiter’s Relief Fund.

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By: gj http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/07/here_comes_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-157330 gj Thu, 09 Aug 2007 02:05:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4636#comment-157330 <p>The numbers are a joke. The sentence stating that the IAF has dropped supplies to 2 million people is undercut by the Post article that "helicopters dropped more than 4,300 food packets Monday in Bihar". Assuming that each packet is about 1 lb, Bihar got about 2+ tons of food in one day. If 1 person needs at least 1 lb per day, you need about 1,000 tons per day to actually feed 2 million people. I have some passing knowledge of the IAF's airlift capability, and there is no way 1,000 tons per day could even begin to be realized. It's all just a show to make people think that the govt is "doing something".</p> The numbers are a joke. The sentence stating that the IAF has dropped supplies to 2 million people is undercut by the Post article that “helicopters dropped more than 4,300 food packets Monday in Bihar”. Assuming that each packet is about 1 lb, Bihar got about 2+ tons of food in one day. If 1 person needs at least 1 lb per day, you need about 1,000 tons per day to actually feed 2 million people. I have some passing knowledge of the IAF’s airlift capability, and there is no way 1,000 tons per day could even begin to be realized. It’s all just a show to make people think that the govt is “doing something”.

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By: Ennis http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/07/here_comes_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-157297 Ennis Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:49:39 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4636#comment-157297 <blockquote>I interviewed UNICEF honcho Charles Lyons after the Guj earthquake. He said handling by the Indian govt was superb, the best he had seen and that the Ind govt had also worked v respectfully with local NGOs. He added all orphans were promptly adopted by neighbors. He said he had never seen anything like it. But Mutineers perhaps prefer to mutiny, to criticise or exclaim about Indian stupidity rather than doing a single helpful thing? </blockquote> <p>Vera - why the defensiveness about Indian government performance? I didn't criticize their performance after the Gujarat earthquake at all. What I did say was that both the response (on the Pakistani side) to the Kashmir earthquake and the response (in multiple countries) to the Tsumani showed that there was no coordination.</p> <p>The Pakistani example is telling because the big international agencies had no desire to coordinate, and were quite opposed to the idea.</p> <p>Why is it important to point that out? To make sure that the same mistakes aren't made again.</p> <p>Honestly, I'm puzzled by the way your responded. Nobody was engaging in blanket criticism of the GOI, why do you feel the need to engage in blanket defense?</p> I interviewed UNICEF honcho Charles Lyons after the Guj earthquake. He said handling by the Indian govt was superb, the best he had seen and that the Ind govt had also worked v respectfully with local NGOs. He added all orphans were promptly adopted by neighbors. He said he had never seen anything like it. But Mutineers perhaps prefer to mutiny, to criticise or exclaim about Indian stupidity rather than doing a single helpful thing?

Vera – why the defensiveness about Indian government performance? I didn’t criticize their performance after the Gujarat earthquake at all. What I did say was that both the response (on the Pakistani side) to the Kashmir earthquake and the response (in multiple countries) to the Tsumani showed that there was no coordination.

The Pakistani example is telling because the big international agencies had no desire to coordinate, and were quite opposed to the idea.

Why is it important to point that out? To make sure that the same mistakes aren’t made again.

Honestly, I’m puzzled by the way your responded. Nobody was engaging in blanket criticism of the GOI, why do you feel the need to engage in blanket defense?

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By: Vera http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/07/here_comes_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-157290 Vera Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:39:07 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4636#comment-157290 <p>FWIW I interviewed UNICEF honcho Charles Lyons after the Guj earthquake. He said handling by the Indian govt was superb, the best he had seen and that the Ind govt had also worked v respectfully with local NGOs. He added all orphans were promptly adopted by neighbors. He said he had never seen anything like it.</p> <p>But Mutineers perhaps prefer to mutiny, to criticise or exclaim about Indian stupidity rather than doing a single helpful thing?</p> <p>Many kids born here seem to hate their brown hue (and India) when they feel so (white) American. Quite unlike the US Jewish or Chinese population.</p> <p>Unrelated but could not resist!</p> <p>For more kudos, even the BBC has admired the Kumbh Meal arrangements. Said they do not know how this massive festival is well organized.</p> FWIW I interviewed UNICEF honcho Charles Lyons after the Guj earthquake. He said handling by the Indian govt was superb, the best he had seen and that the Ind govt had also worked v respectfully with local NGOs. He added all orphans were promptly adopted by neighbors. He said he had never seen anything like it.

But Mutineers perhaps prefer to mutiny, to criticise or exclaim about Indian stupidity rather than doing a single helpful thing?

Many kids born here seem to hate their brown hue (and India) when they feel so (white) American. Quite unlike the US Jewish or Chinese population.

Unrelated but could not resist!

For more kudos, even the BBC has admired the Kumbh Meal arrangements. Said they do not know how this massive festival is well organized.

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By: GujuDude http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/07/here_comes_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-157269 GujuDude Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:42:29 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4636#comment-157269 <blockquote>The question remains as to why India hasn't done anything about harvesting rain water?</blockquote> <p>I remember hearing grumbles about trying to interconnect rivers over a wide swath of territory to allow water to flow into other networks, ensuring the local ones don't get overwhelmed.</p> <p>In Gujarat, water from Narmada via it's damn flows into other rivers as a part of maintaining those rivers (Sabarmati for example). It helps recharge the local acquifier and provides irrigation water for farms. Many say they've never seen so much water, all year round, in those rivers which went dry in summertime.</p> <p>The project to interconnect rivers would be massive by any account. Other systems like the deep tunnel project in Chicago, which stores excess water underground (or the one in Japan) are very expensive, too. It would take a lot of investment in the infrastructure to allow for such a system to be implemented.</p> The question remains as to why India hasn’t done anything about harvesting rain water?

I remember hearing grumbles about trying to interconnect rivers over a wide swath of territory to allow water to flow into other networks, ensuring the local ones don’t get overwhelmed.

In Gujarat, water from Narmada via it’s damn flows into other rivers as a part of maintaining those rivers (Sabarmati for example). It helps recharge the local acquifier and provides irrigation water for farms. Many say they’ve never seen so much water, all year round, in those rivers which went dry in summertime.

The project to interconnect rivers would be massive by any account. Other systems like the deep tunnel project in Chicago, which stores excess water underground (or the one in Japan) are very expensive, too. It would take a lot of investment in the infrastructure to allow for such a system to be implemented.

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/07/here_comes_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-157267 Rahul Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:39:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4636#comment-157267 <blockquote>The question remains as to why India hasn't done anything about harvesting rain water?</blockquote> <p>I thought that his been mandated for new buildings in Madras for some time now (since Jayalalitha's time)?</p> The question remains as to why India hasn’t done anything about harvesting rain water?

I thought that his been mandated for new buildings in Madras for some time now (since Jayalalitha’s time)?

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By: Ruchira http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/07/here_comes_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-157265 Ruchira Wed, 08 Aug 2007 22:32:21 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4636#comment-157265 <blockquote>It's a shame that this happens almost every monsoon</blockquote> <p>.</p> <p>The question remains as to why India hasn't done anything about harvesting rain water? I don't think that it is such a daunting challenge of either the imagination or engineering. Doing so would address the problems of both flooding and draught. With Ennis's permission, I am posting <a href="http://accidentalblogger.typepad.com/accidental_blogger/2006/10/water_water_eve.html">the link </a>to an article I wrote last year when monsoon rains were causing similar havoc.</p> It’s a shame that this happens almost every monsoon

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The question remains as to why India hasn’t done anything about harvesting rain water? I don’t think that it is such a daunting challenge of either the imagination or engineering. Doing so would address the problems of both flooding and draught. With Ennis’s permission, I am posting the link to an article I wrote last year when monsoon rains were causing similar havoc.

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By: GujuDude http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/07/here_comes_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-157201 GujuDude Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:31:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4636#comment-157201 <blockquote> Is it my perception or have weather related disasters increased in recent years? Is it me?</blockquote> <p>Part of it has to do with population densities, people having the ability to communicate about such disasters, infrastructure corroding, local erosion of natural barriers (like swampland), deforestation, the earth's natural cycle (orbits, wobble of axis), global warming. Something that kinda freaks me out is the <a href="http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/09/0927_040927_field_flip.html">flipping of the magnetic poles</a>.</p> <p>Weather analysis is some of the most complex number crunching stuff out there (hence supercomputers for the job).</p> Is it my perception or have weather related disasters increased in recent years? Is it me?

Part of it has to do with population densities, people having the ability to communicate about such disasters, infrastructure corroding, local erosion of natural barriers (like swampland), deforestation, the earth’s natural cycle (orbits, wobble of axis), global warming. Something that kinda freaks me out is the flipping of the magnetic poles.

Weather analysis is some of the most complex number crunching stuff out there (hence supercomputers for the job).

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By: Camille http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/08/07/here_comes_the_1/comment-page-1/#comment-157189 Camille Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:16:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4636#comment-157189 <blockquote>Also it seems flooding is something that happens every year in most of Bangladesh and entire swaths of the country are going under water. What gives? Is there a solution to this? Can it be prevented?</blockquote> <p>Climate change!</p> <p>But heard about NYC this morning -- it sounds totally insane.</p> Also it seems flooding is something that happens every year in most of Bangladesh and entire swaths of the country are going under water. What gives? Is there a solution to this? Can it be prevented?

Climate change!

But heard about NYC this morning — it sounds totally insane.

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