Comments on: Once Upon a Time… [UPDATED!] http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/07/27/once_upon_a_tim/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: DJ Drrrty Poonjabi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/07/27/once_upon_a_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-154070 DJ Drrrty Poonjabi Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:13:16 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4606#comment-154070 <p>Hey guys. I know I'm replying pretty late, but I felt compelled to make the following points:</p> <ol> <li><p>I cannot take credit for the caption in the "remixed" WSJ cartoon. Though he's too much of a gentelman to claim it (as evidenced by the fact that he's already posted twice and said nary a word), the honor belongs to our own and venerable <a href="http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/004447.html#comment137518">Chachaji</a>. I found his punchline to be much funnier than the original and wanted to give him a chance to have his revision actualized.</p></li> <li><p>I do acknowledge that the second cartoon stereotypes whites as racist and, though I do not agree with that obvious generalization, the whole point of my detournement was to subvert the original work and mock those who would probably have found it funny.</p></li> <li><p>Excellent job, Nina!</p></li> </ol> Hey guys. I know I’m replying pretty late, but I felt compelled to make the following points:

  1. I cannot take credit for the caption in the “remixed” WSJ cartoon. Though he’s too much of a gentelman to claim it (as evidenced by the fact that he’s already posted twice and said nary a word), the honor belongs to our own and venerable Chachaji. I found his punchline to be much funnier than the original and wanted to give him a chance to have his revision actualized.

  2. I do acknowledge that the second cartoon stereotypes whites as racist and, though I do not agree with that obvious generalization, the whole point of my detournement was to subvert the original work and mock those who would probably have found it funny.

  3. Excellent job, Nina!

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By: kris http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/07/27/once_upon_a_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-153235 kris Mon, 30 Jul 2007 03:29:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4606#comment-153235 <p>I don't know whether remarking on the odd state of being Indian in America, and dealing with the dual problem of skin color bias in Indian culture and anti-color racism in America here on the internet among ourselves is healthy and cathartic or actually a way of avoiding any real or meaningful acts in response to problems we perceive with the society we live in. Sometimes, I think I only voice my complaints here in essentially secret then return back to my public life in the white world I inhabit. And those of us dating white guys and girls wouldn't dare to have this conversation with our significant others. It's a bit schizophrenic in a way.</p> I don’t know whether remarking on the odd state of being Indian in America, and dealing with the dual problem of skin color bias in Indian culture and anti-color racism in America here on the internet among ourselves is healthy and cathartic or actually a way of avoiding any real or meaningful acts in response to problems we perceive with the society we live in. Sometimes, I think I only voice my complaints here in essentially secret then return back to my public life in the white world I inhabit. And those of us dating white guys and girls wouldn’t dare to have this conversation with our significant others. It’s a bit schizophrenic in a way.

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By: Shankar http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/07/27/once_upon_a_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-153120 Shankar Sun, 29 Jul 2007 20:49:26 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4606#comment-153120 <p>Doesn't the Mahatma with the Gandhi automatically mean that we are talking about Rahul Gandhi?</p> <p>Rahul Gandhi seems to me to be an, ummm..., interesting character. I haven't found a lot of concrete information on his background - educational or professional. And he seems to me to be one of those people about whom you might want to be careful what you say. I read in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahul_Gandhi">Wikipedia</a> that "[his] legal affairs team has taken a number of heavy-handed measures to prevent damage to his image".</p> <p><i>Rahul Gandhi's legal affairs team has taken a number of heavy-handed measures to prevent damage to his image. For example, when Newsweek alleged in late 2006 that he had not completed his degrees at Harvard and Cambridge or kept his job at the Monitor Group, they were slapped with a legal notice, following which they hastily retracted or qualified their earlier statements.[19]. </i></p> Doesn’t the Mahatma with the Gandhi automatically mean that we are talking about Rahul Gandhi?

Rahul Gandhi seems to me to be an, ummm…, interesting character. I haven’t found a lot of concrete information on his background – educational or professional. And he seems to me to be one of those people about whom you might want to be careful what you say. I read in Wikipedia that “[his] legal affairs team has taken a number of heavy-handed measures to prevent damage to his image”.

Rahul Gandhi’s legal affairs team has taken a number of heavy-handed measures to prevent damage to his image. For example, when Newsweek alleged in late 2006 that he had not completed his degrees at Harvard and Cambridge or kept his job at the Monitor Group, they were slapped with a legal notice, following which they hastily retracted or qualified their earlier statements.[19].

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By: meenbeen http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/07/27/once_upon_a_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-152765 meenbeen Sat, 28 Jul 2007 20:41:42 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4606#comment-152765 <blockquote>When I read the cartoon I was struck with another scenario. If a mirror like that exists it might as well say Mahatma Gandhi is the fairest person (read: fair minded).</blockquote> <p>I suppose this is a fair (no pun intended) assumption, but honestly I think it started as an outsourcing joke and the cartoonist used M.K.Gandhi as the most widely known Indian (because it couldn't have used Filipino outsourcing as an example) by average Americans. It seems dated(just because Gandhi is no longer alive) and unfunny to me, but then everything seems to pale in comparison when run next to Marmaduke and The Family Circus.</p> When I read the cartoon I was struck with another scenario. If a mirror like that exists it might as well say Mahatma Gandhi is the fairest person (read: fair minded).

I suppose this is a fair (no pun intended) assumption, but honestly I think it started as an outsourcing joke and the cartoonist used M.K.Gandhi as the most widely known Indian (because it couldn’t have used Filipino outsourcing as an example) by average Americans. It seems dated(just because Gandhi is no longer alive) and unfunny to me, but then everything seems to pale in comparison when run next to Marmaduke and The Family Circus.

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By: hoi polloi http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/07/27/once_upon_a_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-152761 hoi polloi Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:55:12 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4606#comment-152761 <blockquote>i think it's kinda of odd to mix gandhi and call centers. are these the only two images of india that the common americans recognize?</blockquote> <p>When I read the cartoon I was struck with another scenario. If a mirror like that exists it might as well say Mahatma Gandhi is the fairest person (read: fair minded). Like, he came close to the man of the millennia in polls. This is purely my personal reflection.</p> i think it’s kinda of odd to mix gandhi and call centers. are these the only two images of india that the common americans recognize?

When I read the cartoon I was struck with another scenario. If a mirror like that exists it might as well say Mahatma Gandhi is the fairest person (read: fair minded). Like, he came close to the man of the millennia in polls. This is purely my personal reflection.

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By: meenbeen http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/07/27/once_upon_a_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-152758 meenbeen Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:34:04 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4606#comment-152758 <blockquote>Well, it would seem that you are in a bit of a pickle...</blockquote> <p>Oh well, it'll still be an interesting bit of trivia for cocktail parties; I just won't appear on Jeopardy anytime soon.</p> Well, it would seem that you are in a bit of a pickle…

Oh well, it’ll still be an interesting bit of trivia for cocktail parties; I just won’t appear on Jeopardy anytime soon.

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By: chachaji http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/07/27/once_upon_a_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-152757 chachaji Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:30:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4606#comment-152757 <blockquote>My guess is that Gandhi was/is politically a more useful name </blockquote> <p>She also kept 'Nehru' as her <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indira_Gandhi#_note-0">middle name</a>, though she didn't use it much.</p> My guess is that Gandhi was/is politically a more useful name

She also kept ‘Nehru’ as her middle name, though she didn’t use it much.

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By: libran38 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/07/27/once_upon_a_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-152756 libran38 Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:21:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4606#comment-152756 <blockquote>There goes all the 'common knowledge' I've picked up over the years.</blockquote> <p>Well, it would seem that you are in a bit of a pickle...</p> There goes all the ‘common knowledge’ I’ve picked up over the years.

Well, it would seem that you are in a bit of a pickle…

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By: meenbeen http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/07/27/once_upon_a_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-152755 meenbeen Sat, 28 Jul 2007 19:05:34 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4606#comment-152755 <blockquote>you can't believe everything you read on the internet!</blockquote> <p><em>GASP!</em> You CAN'T??? There goes all the 'common knowledge' I've picked up over the years.</p> you can’t believe everything you read on the internet!

GASP! You CAN’T??? There goes all the ‘common knowledge’ I’ve picked up over the years.

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By: libran38 http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/07/27/once_upon_a_tim/comment-page-1/#comment-152753 libran38 Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:42:09 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4606#comment-152753 <p>My guess is that Gandhi was/is politically a more useful name than Ghandy ;-) I think the husband was a Parsi. I just googled "Feroze Ghandy", and saw a claim that Pandit Nehru was behind the name change, but then again you can't believe everything you read on the internet!</p> My guess is that Gandhi was/is politically a more useful name than Ghandy ;-) I think the husband was a Parsi. I just googled “Feroze Ghandy”, and saw a claim that Pandit Nehru was behind the name change, but then again you can’t believe everything you read on the internet!

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