Comments on: Just when you think you’ve seen it all http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/06/27/just_when_you_t/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/06/27/just_when_you_t/comment-page-2/#comment-147355 Rahul Tue, 03 Jul 2007 21:46:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4534#comment-147355 <p>Don't forget the <a href="http://www.agnisharman.com/aditi.htm">elephant outside the office</a> for the snake in the grass.</p> Don’t forget the elephant outside the office for the snake in the grass.

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/06/27/just_when_you_t/comment-page-2/#comment-147264 Rahul Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:58:50 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4534#comment-147264 <p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/2481467.stm">This</a> is the link I meant to use for the "deconstructive surgery" text above.</p> This is the link I meant to use for the “deconstructive surgery” text above.

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/06/27/just_when_you_t/comment-page-2/#comment-147260 Rahul Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:36:24 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4534#comment-147260 <blockquote>Remember the infamous Michael Jackson dangling his baby from the balcony of a hotel building?</blockquote> <p>Yes, I didn't mention it because Jacko seems to operate in an alternate wacko universe where he can fuel his Peter Pan complex by building a ranch called Neverland to invite kids for (at best) questionable activities, change his skin color and all of his features by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconstructive_surgery">deconstructive surgery</a>, and <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb8I8-dmAxs">do the moonwalk</a>.</p> Remember the infamous Michael Jackson dangling his baby from the balcony of a hotel building?

Yes, I didn’t mention it because Jacko seems to operate in an alternate wacko universe where he can fuel his Peter Pan complex by building a ranch called Neverland to invite kids for (at best) questionable activities, change his skin color and all of his features by deconstructive surgery, and do the moonwalk.

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By: jyotsana http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/06/27/just_when_you_t/comment-page-2/#comment-147245 jyotsana Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:45:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4534#comment-147245 <p>While there is certainly a great danger to the child, it is quite common for communities with a tradition of rare skills such as raising snakes (as the Irulas) to train their children young. As it does for any number of trades. This is not only a common pattern among 'pre-modern' but also contemporary communities. I have seen Rom Whitaker's children - who could barely walk learning to play with snakes, along with their Irula friends. Dirty, difficult, dangerous? Sure. That's why some of us choose to gush over the works of quack economists, while others choose to go out into the wilds and study nature.</p> <p>Randomizer, you are on an interesting track re beliefs, traditions etc., Since this thread has gone cold, we will take up your notions on another thread one of these days.</p> While there is certainly a great danger to the child, it is quite common for communities with a tradition of rare skills such as raising snakes (as the Irulas) to train their children young. As it does for any number of trades. This is not only a common pattern among ‘pre-modern’ but also contemporary communities. I have seen Rom Whitaker’s children – who could barely walk learning to play with snakes, along with their Irula friends. Dirty, difficult, dangerous? Sure. That’s why some of us choose to gush over the works of quack economists, while others choose to go out into the wilds and study nature.

Randomizer, you are on an interesting track re beliefs, traditions etc., Since this thread has gone cold, we will take up your notions on another thread one of these days.

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By: sean http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/06/27/just_when_you_t/comment-page-2/#comment-147010 sean Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:40:56 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4534#comment-147010 <p>Am I the only one who finds this incredibly, incredibly cruel to the snake? Sewing a living creature's mouth shut... are you kidding me?!! Those bastards.</p> Am I the only one who finds this incredibly, incredibly cruel to the snake? Sewing a living creature’s mouth shut… are you kidding me?!! Those bastards.

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/06/27/just_when_you_t/comment-page-2/#comment-146871 Rahul Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:41:33 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4534#comment-146871 <p>Wait, are you sure the video is real? Are you sure it is not some fiendish <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vEi5Vk1SGE">teaser</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4j4W0KUB9CE">trailer</a> stunt by Spielberg-Lucas for <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0367882/">Indiana Jones 4</a>?</p> Wait, are you sure the video is real? Are you sure it is not some fiendish teaser trailer stunt by Spielberg-Lucas for Indiana Jones 4?

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By: Floridian http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/06/27/just_when_you_t/comment-page-2/#comment-146838 Floridian Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:32:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4534#comment-146838 <p>"While this particular incident might have been motivated by tradition/custom/ignorance, there was another one motivated purely by publicity"</p> <p>Remember the infamous Michael Jackson dangling his baby from the balcony of a hotel building?</p> “While this particular incident might have been motivated by tradition/custom/ignorance, there was another one motivated purely by publicity”

Remember the infamous Michael Jackson dangling his baby from the balcony of a hotel building?

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/06/27/just_when_you_t/comment-page-2/#comment-146831 Rahul Fri, 29 Jun 2007 06:58:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4534#comment-146831 <p>While this particular incident might have been motivated by tradition/custom/ignorance, there was another one motivated purely by publicity which got quite a lot of attention. The late Steve Irwin (of <a href="http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,20349534-952,00.html">stinger flicking good</a> fame) took his one month old son within <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-01-02-irwin_x.htm">snapping distance of a crocodile</a>.</p> <p>Also, despite my joking in #71, have people heard of this custom in some community or village? This is really news to me!</p> While this particular incident might have been motivated by tradition/custom/ignorance, there was another one motivated purely by publicity which got quite a lot of attention. The late Steve Irwin (of stinger flicking good fame) took his one month old son within snapping distance of a crocodile.

Also, despite my joking in #71, have people heard of this custom in some community or village? This is really news to me!

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By: Randomizer http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/06/27/just_when_you_t/comment-page-2/#comment-146816 Randomizer Fri, 29 Jun 2007 02:13:54 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4534#comment-146816 <p>@malathi -</p> <p>"How can you reduce centuries and centuries of observations, discourses, practices and collective knowledge exhibited by millions of individuals in the sub-continent into neat, currently-dated, mutually-exclusive packets of fear vs awareness, understanding vs ignorance, etc?"</p> <p>Our ancestors may have known a tremendous amount about the environment, and the creatures in it, I agree, but it cannot be an explanation for the reason it gained <i>religious</i> importance, which is what we are specifically disputing here. Historically, religious figures have always been the result of the 'mysterious' and the 'unknown'. For instance, the Sun (Ra) for the Egyptians, Thor for the Vikings, and hundred other gods for the Greeks, rain gods, animal gods, the list goes on... Once these elements (rain, fire, water, planets ) are explained by Science, they lose their 'mystical' significance and worship of it declines.</p> <p>To be concise, my point is: <i>that which is thoroughly understood, is very rarely worshipped.</i></p> <p>The case of India and the Cobra might be a rare exception to this general trait of religious origins, and I cannot claim to disprove that. In the meanwhile, we can only agree to disagree.</p> @malathi -

“How can you reduce centuries and centuries of observations, discourses, practices and collective knowledge exhibited by millions of individuals in the sub-continent into neat, currently-dated, mutually-exclusive packets of fear vs awareness, understanding vs ignorance, etc?”

Our ancestors may have known a tremendous amount about the environment, and the creatures in it, I agree, but it cannot be an explanation for the reason it gained religious importance, which is what we are specifically disputing here. Historically, religious figures have always been the result of the ‘mysterious’ and the ‘unknown’. For instance, the Sun (Ra) for the Egyptians, Thor for the Vikings, and hundred other gods for the Greeks, rain gods, animal gods, the list goes on… Once these elements (rain, fire, water, planets ) are explained by Science, they lose their ‘mystical’ significance and worship of it declines.

To be concise, my point is: that which is thoroughly understood, is very rarely worshipped.

The case of India and the Cobra might be a rare exception to this general trait of religious origins, and I cannot claim to disprove that. In the meanwhile, we can only agree to disagree.

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By: Rahul http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/06/27/just_when_you_t/comment-page-2/#comment-146808 Rahul Fri, 29 Jun 2007 01:46:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4534#comment-146808 <blockquote> Next time I am shooting monuments with my window all the way up. </blockquote> <p>If the hood is a-rockin', don't come clickin'.</p> Next time I am shooting monuments with my window all the way up.

If the hood is a-rockin’, don’t come clickin’.

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