Comments on: “Those who spy for America will face this same fate” http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/16/those_who_spy_f/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: mr pathan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/16/those_who_spy_f/comment-page-1/#comment-137496 mr pathan Fri, 18 May 2007 00:44:25 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4442#comment-137496 <p>Afghans and their government always like to blame Pakistan for all of their political problems, as though the jihadi spell does not exist in a country that has been in the midst of 40 years of civil war. This is not to discount the major contributions of various Pakistani regimes to the instability of Afghanistan, with their support of the Taliban and other meddling. The position the Karzai government seems to be trying to sell is that Afghanistan would been a peaceful, stable country if not for the evil hand of Pakistan and the ISI interfering and supporting violent miscreants.</p> <p>The porous Afghan/Pakistani border region has plenty of young men willing to fight jihad and commit evil in the name of religion, tribe, or whatever whether they spend most of their time on the Afghan side of the border or the Pakistani. To pretend such sentiments do not exist organically within the culture and instead blame outsiders is simply BS.</p> <p>There is no dividing line politically or geographically between Pashtuns who support one cause or another, yet plenty would like to divert responsibility from themselves and pretend the source of evil has some foreign hand.</p> <p>BTW, my parents are both from the region in question who are obsessed with drawing distinctions between themselves and non-Pashto speakers, whether Pakistani-native or from various Afghan ethnicities; and will never recognize the need for a rehabilitation within our own culture. Perhaps the region is doomed to fail because of its lack of resources and services, but there is a lot to be done on our part.</p> Afghans and their government always like to blame Pakistan for all of their political problems, as though the jihadi spell does not exist in a country that has been in the midst of 40 years of civil war. This is not to discount the major contributions of various Pakistani regimes to the instability of Afghanistan, with their support of the Taliban and other meddling. The position the Karzai government seems to be trying to sell is that Afghanistan would been a peaceful, stable country if not for the evil hand of Pakistan and the ISI interfering and supporting violent miscreants.

The porous Afghan/Pakistani border region has plenty of young men willing to fight jihad and commit evil in the name of religion, tribe, or whatever whether they spend most of their time on the Afghan side of the border or the Pakistani. To pretend such sentiments do not exist organically within the culture and instead blame outsiders is simply BS.

There is no dividing line politically or geographically between Pashtuns who support one cause or another, yet plenty would like to divert responsibility from themselves and pretend the source of evil has some foreign hand.

BTW, my parents are both from the region in question who are obsessed with drawing distinctions between themselves and non-Pashto speakers, whether Pakistani-native or from various Afghan ethnicities; and will never recognize the need for a rehabilitation within our own culture. Perhaps the region is doomed to fail because of its lack of resources and services, but there is a lot to be done on our part.

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By: Umrao Jaan http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/16/those_who_spy_f/comment-page-1/#comment-137161 Umrao Jaan Thu, 17 May 2007 04:45:55 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4442#comment-137161 <p>"Is it just me, or have things in Kashmir quietened down quite a bit"</p> <p>SkepMod, things generally quite down in Kashmir during the winters because the mountain passes are snowed in. Once they melt, starting in APril or so is when the cross border infiltration picks up. At least that has been the case since the inception of the insurgency.</p> “Is it just me, or have things in Kashmir quietened down quite a bit”

SkepMod, things generally quite down in Kashmir during the winters because the mountain passes are snowed in. Once they melt, starting in APril or so is when the cross border infiltration picks up. At least that has been the case since the inception of the insurgency.

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By: Karthik http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/16/those_who_spy_f/comment-page-1/#comment-137068 Karthik Thu, 17 May 2007 00:26:03 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4442#comment-137068 <p>I think Rudy's chances of running for office are very very slim. I read somewhere that he has a lot of "history" when it comes to expressing himself in public.</p> I think Rudy’s chances of running for office are very very slim. I read somewhere that he has a lot of “history” when it comes to expressing himself in public.

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By: RC http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/16/those_who_spy_f/comment-page-1/#comment-137023 RC Wed, 16 May 2007 22:17:19 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4442#comment-137023 <p>WTF did Rudy do to deserve to be "hero" of 9/11??</p> <p>The heros are the firefighters who went into a collapsing building and saved lives. How many lives did Rudy save?? But he is a media annointed 9/11 hero. I get so irritated by the media let him claim 9/11 as his whatever? WTF??</p> WTF did Rudy do to deserve to be “hero” of 9/11??

The heros are the firefighters who went into a collapsing building and saved lives. How many lives did Rudy save?? But he is a media annointed 9/11 hero. I get so irritated by the media let him claim 9/11 as his whatever? WTF??

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By: Valmiki the Younger http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/16/those_who_spy_f/comment-page-1/#comment-137021 Valmiki the Younger Wed, 16 May 2007 22:11:17 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4442#comment-137021 <p>It's only a matter of time before this infection really spreads to Pakistan in a major way. The power vacuum in civilian leadership caused by Musharraf is sucking in political Islam, and with twin threats from secular and religious dissidents the regime is becoming dangerously unstable.</p> It’s only a matter of time before this infection really spreads to Pakistan in a major way. The power vacuum in civilian leadership caused by Musharraf is sucking in political Islam, and with twin threats from secular and religious dissidents the regime is becoming dangerously unstable.

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By: SkepMod http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/16/those_who_spy_f/comment-page-1/#comment-137020 SkepMod Wed, 16 May 2007 22:10:01 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4442#comment-137020 <p>Is it just me, or have things in Kashmir quietened down quite a bit? If it has, is it a result of all the action going on in Afghanistan and NWFP? If there really is a large, loosely governed network of jihadis, its stands to reason that screws being tightened in these areas results in a drop in Kashmir. Speculating...</p> Is it just me, or have things in Kashmir quietened down quite a bit? If it has, is it a result of all the action going on in Afghanistan and NWFP? If there really is a large, loosely governed network of jihadis, its stands to reason that screws being tightened in these areas results in a drop in Kashmir. Speculating…

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By: sirc http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/16/those_who_spy_f/comment-page-1/#comment-137016 sirc Wed, 16 May 2007 22:04:18 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4442#comment-137016 <blockquote>in reference to Giuliani's demagoguery against Congressman Paul in last night debate on Fox News. </blockquote> <p>he...he..funny.As the Onion said it best, Rudy should just run for <a href="http://www.theonion.com/content/news/giuliani_to_run_for_president_of_9">President of 9/11</a></p> in reference to Giuliani’s demagoguery against Congressman Paul in last night debate on Fox News.

he…he..funny.As the Onion said it best, Rudy should just run for President of 9/11

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By: Al_Chutiya_for_debauchery http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/16/those_who_spy_f/comment-page-1/#comment-137007 Al_Chutiya_for_debauchery Wed, 16 May 2007 21:42:36 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4442#comment-137007 <p>KXB: I should have clarified. My comment was in jest and in <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/thefix/2007/05/a_high_note_for_giuliani.html">reference</a> to Giuliani's <a href="http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2007/05/blowback.html#more">demagoguery</a> against Congressman Paul in last night debate on Fox News.</p> KXB: I should have clarified. My comment was in jest and in reference to Giuliani’s demagoguery against Congressman Paul in last night debate on Fox News.

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By: Suraj http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/16/those_who_spy_f/comment-page-1/#comment-136988 Suraj Wed, 16 May 2007 20:54:47 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4442#comment-136988 <p>In most cases like this - the innocent are the victims.</p> <p>The way the entire South Asian Sub-continent is experiencing pockets of such bloody massacres with increasing frequency & more lethality - is very dsiturbing.</p> In most cases like this – the innocent are the victims.

The way the entire South Asian Sub-continent is experiencing pockets of such bloody massacres with increasing frequency & more lethality – is very dsiturbing.

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By: Karthik http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/16/those_who_spy_f/comment-page-1/#comment-136982 Karthik Wed, 16 May 2007 20:45:48 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4442#comment-136982 <blockquote>warning for those who spy for the United States</blockquote> <p>The fact that Musharraf is seen as a close friend of the West does not help the case.</p> <p>I figured that with the recent ultimatum that was given to him, things might have changed a little bit, but last weeks riots lead me to think otherwise.</p> warning for those who spy for the United States

The fact that Musharraf is seen as a close friend of the West does not help the case.

I figured that with the recent ultimatum that was given to him, things might have changed a little bit, but last weeks riots lead me to think otherwise.

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