Comments on: Why Does Caste Matter to US? http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/14/why_does_caste/ All that flavorful brownness in one savory packet Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:11:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: navatha http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/14/why_does_caste/comment-page-12/#comment-164589 navatha Sun, 09 Sep 2007 10:09:00 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4435#comment-164589 <p>Caste system in India is not at all good. Basically these caste system is started in olden days according to the people's culture, status, and thier works. But, now a day's every thing is changing in that literacy rate is increasing rapidly and the culture's and living style were also changed alot. Now it is a time to remove this caste system completely. Every individual of India should have a responsibility to make other Indian as equal as them.</p> Caste system in India is not at all good. Basically these caste system is started in olden days according to the people’s culture, status, and thier works. But, now a day’s every thing is changing in that literacy rate is increasing rapidly and the culture’s and living style were also changed alot. Now it is a time to remove this caste system completely. Every individual of India should have a responsibility to make other Indian as equal as them.

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By: qwert http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/14/why_does_caste/comment-page-12/#comment-145428 qwert Wed, 20 Jun 2007 23:34:14 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4435#comment-145428 <p>For anyone interested, there's a new site dedicated to presenting the life, devotion, and spiritual teachings of Mirabai at http://www.gitananda.org/mirabai/mirabai.html</p> For anyone interested, there’s a new site dedicated to presenting the life, devotion, and spiritual teachings of Mirabai at http://www.gitananda.org/mirabai/mirabai.html

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By: mboro http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/14/why_does_caste/comment-page-12/#comment-144125 mboro Sun, 17 Jun 2007 05:38:13 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4435#comment-144125 <p>In regard to the people discussing brahmin hegemony, It would be important to note that in Sri Lanka (amongst Northern Tamils anyway), the Brahmins are not considered to be above anyone else, and are instead pretty much ordinary, other than them being priests and all. However the "vellalar" caste is still the dominant one, probably because like 40% of people are from that caste, and its also basically the farming caste (not as in the labourer caste, but actual farm owners), so they have the most money. I think it is a more equitable system that dates back to when the Tamils first came to Sri Lanka (200AD?? whenever the Cholas decided to invade..) that for some reason hasnt reached the levels that the Indian caste system has.</p> In regard to the people discussing brahmin hegemony, It would be important to note that in Sri Lanka (amongst Northern Tamils anyway), the Brahmins are not considered to be above anyone else, and are instead pretty much ordinary, other than them being priests and all. However the “vellalar” caste is still the dominant one, probably because like 40% of people are from that caste, and its also basically the farming caste (not as in the labourer caste, but actual farm owners), so they have the most money. I think it is a more equitable system that dates back to when the Tamils first came to Sri Lanka (200AD?? whenever the Cholas decided to invade..) that for some reason hasnt reached the levels that the Indian caste system has.

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By: desishiksa http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/14/why_does_caste/comment-page-12/#comment-139226 desishiksa Fri, 25 May 2007 06:03:06 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4435#comment-139226 <blockquote>I guess I'm just not sure how or why I would ignore my caste, when it is what describes, or even dictates, my spiritual practice.</blockquote> <p>I came very late to this thread, but I wanted to weigh in anyway. The reason to ignore caste, in my opinion, is because it is perpetuating an oppressive tradition. You can practice your religion any way you want to, and call it a family tradition, while still ignoring caste. Until I was ten, my parents refused to tell me what our caste was. When I was ten, they finally explained it. We don't really have one because: My dad's mother is a brahmin, who married a sudra; my mother's family are technically sudras but belong to a hindu reformist tradition that rejects caste. So whether it's a result of technically being casteless, being from a family that somewhat rejected caste, or because I was entirely innocent of my caste until later in life, I don't think it influences my beliefs in any way. Any religious traditions I think of as family traditions, not caste traditions. When people ask me my caste, I usually say I don't have one. I don't know the caste of most of my cousins' spouses, or most of my Indian friends in India.</p> I guess I’m just not sure how or why I would ignore my caste, when it is what describes, or even dictates, my spiritual practice.

I came very late to this thread, but I wanted to weigh in anyway. The reason to ignore caste, in my opinion, is because it is perpetuating an oppressive tradition. You can practice your religion any way you want to, and call it a family tradition, while still ignoring caste. Until I was ten, my parents refused to tell me what our caste was. When I was ten, they finally explained it. We don’t really have one because: My dad’s mother is a brahmin, who married a sudra; my mother’s family are technically sudras but belong to a hindu reformist tradition that rejects caste. So whether it’s a result of technically being casteless, being from a family that somewhat rejected caste, or because I was entirely innocent of my caste until later in life, I don’t think it influences my beliefs in any way. Any religious traditions I think of as family traditions, not caste traditions. When people ask me my caste, I usually say I don’t have one. I don’t know the caste of most of my cousins’ spouses, or most of my Indian friends in India.

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By: PG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/14/why_does_caste/comment-page-12/#comment-139225 PG Fri, 25 May 2007 06:02:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4435#comment-139225 <blockquote> You are not older than me.</blockquote> <p>How do you know?</p> You are not older than me.

How do you know?

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By: bytewords http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/14/why_does_caste/comment-page-12/#comment-139224 bytewords Fri, 25 May 2007 06:00:31 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4435#comment-139224 <p>@563 kurma,</p> <p>of course.. that is often my response as well :).</p> @563 kurma,

of course.. that is often my response as well :) .

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By: Pondatti http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/14/why_does_caste/comment-page-12/#comment-139223 Pondatti Fri, 25 May 2007 06:00:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4435#comment-139223 <p>Please don't talk down to me by "dearing" me. You are not older than me. Do yourself (and the rest of us) a favor and consider why some of us react the way we do to you and why some of us choose not to react at all-- you're telling me what to do with my ego when yours is huge regarding how holy and devout and super-Indian you are compared to the rest of us. That's rich.</p> Please don’t talk down to me by “dearing” me. You are not older than me. Do yourself (and the rest of us) a favor and consider why some of us react the way we do to you and why some of us choose not to react at all– you’re telling me what to do with my ego when yours is huge regarding how holy and devout and super-Indian you are compared to the rest of us. That’s rich.

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By: PG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/14/why_does_caste/comment-page-12/#comment-139218 PG Fri, 25 May 2007 05:51:27 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4435#comment-139218 <blockquote>You know, yoni-freak</blockquote> <p>Actually I'm a linga-pujari, not a yoni freak.</p> <p>Don't take things so seriously, lest the ego be easily offended and mukti remain a far distant dream, dear.</p> You know, yoni-freak

Actually I’m a linga-pujari, not a yoni freak.

Don’t take things so seriously, lest the ego be easily offended and mukti remain a far distant dream, dear.

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By: Pondatti http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/14/why_does_caste/comment-page-12/#comment-139216 Pondatti Fri, 25 May 2007 05:48:49 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4435#comment-139216 <p>You know, yoni-freak, I don't know why I bothered. You asked and asked and asked about TBs and sex and I answered. Of course, you had to be obnoxious about it. Pervy doesn't mean what you apparently think it does, but feel free to insult my "mentality" anyway. It will really inspire others to open up to you and your incessant questions.</p> You know, yoni-freak, I don’t know why I bothered. You asked and asked and asked about TBs and sex and I answered. Of course, you had to be obnoxious about it. Pervy doesn’t mean what you apparently think it does, but feel free to insult my “mentality” anyway. It will really inspire others to open up to you and your incessant questions.

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By: PG http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2007/05/14/why_does_caste/comment-page-12/#comment-139214 PG Fri, 25 May 2007 05:44:23 +0000 http://sepiamutiny.com?p=4435#comment-139214 <blockquote>My uber-TamBram consort loves diving. But I don't think that has anything to do with his caste, I think he's just pervy. I agree with Hema.</blockquote> <p>That statement reflects more on your mentality than his. Since when is diving pervy?</p> My uber-TamBram consort loves diving. But I don’t think that has anything to do with his caste, I think he’s just pervy. I agree with Hema.

That statement reflects more on your mentality than his. Since when is diving pervy?

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